madras

right now very happy with n'zogbia centre attacking midfield Against Stoke maybe. He was dominated pretty easily today. you mean today he didn't dominate the game ? that type of thing happens with half a team out. No, he was easily dominated. They coped with him very easily today i thought. He only had any real effect when he pushed out to the left occassionally for the last 20 minutes or so. Such a massive waste if we keep him there long-term. yup he was easy dominated....why ?2 men on him and limited options perhaps ? could a decent central midfield solve this ie no bolton player marked rozenhal meaning they could double man elsewhere. Zog might turn into a quality central midfielder but right now he has too many limitations to his game. His ball retention, passing and strength are exposed in the middle. Maybe with 3 central midfielders he can get away with it but not in a 2. Stick him out wide where he gets a bit more space and he can use his attributes like his pace, his ability to run with the ball and his crossing. I like the kid but until he develops a bit, you are just exposing his weaknesses and stifling his strengths in the middle. his crossing has never been consistent and he is only just getting experience in centre mid. as for running at players most of his best stuff has been done in the middle even when played in other positions (this season at left back and as at the SOL when out wide). his best attribute is taking the ball in close and in one movement taking it away...ideal for attacking centre mid. distribution needs wot=rked on but it would to play wide anyway

when we played the ball forward it never stuck....owen up agaainst that sort of defender you can understand but if not we nee someone who can. viduka style with mobility, then defensive midfiled and right midfield (i like milner and is nowhere near as bad as pie would have you believe but if we can improve these would be my irst positions) i think n'zog can make a a top quality centre mid

That's the way I see it. We played much better, we tried to get it down and pass it, we had a lot of posession but lacked penetration. In 3 f****** days, that's quite an improvement, tbh. AAAAAGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

you twat. happy ?

That's the way I see it. We played much better, we tried to get it down and pass it, we had a lot of posession but lacked penetration. In 3 f****** days, that's quite an improvement, tbh. blueyes.gif stop f****** agreeing....i'm getting paranoid (you aswell mick)

joey bartons "anger release"

we played pass and go football from keeper to forwards (how many times did given just hoof it ?). in 2 days with half a team thats amazing. we showed more footballing prowess today than the whole of the last 3 years. still looking forwrad to getting this season out the way then let us go

Precisely. I don't think i've seen us retain possession as well as we did today for a long time, and that's got nothing to do with their tactics. We've played against negative teams before and had little possession. The fact that we had 70% of the possession, or whatever, for me, is good 'defending'. They can't score if you've got the ball. yeh, we kept possession thought Roz was really good inthe centre, kept play flowing and regained posessionquite well. Was a major plus seeing us regaining possession trying to work an opening rather than hope for one froma long ball, can really see the difference inthe team, if we boxed them in like we did today with Allardyce at the helm the ball would of been punted into the box on the hope that a ball would fall loose for one of our players, we'd end up losing possession very easily with Allardyces style which meant we were constantly trying to reagain possession again putting ourselves under unessary pressure. Id like to see the ball worked from one flank to the other more often, play didnt get swtiched tht often from what i remember. re rozenhal....he played 2 fantastic attacking passes that ballack would have wanked over,done his defensve role excellently but he gave the ball away far too much...not slagging the lad off as he was out of position but putting things in perspective

how many good games did n'zogbia have last season ? MADRAS i love Duff, i think his attitude is first class and he used to be an exceptional player. I am not trying to knock the fella, simply belive he is not the player he used to be and unless something drastically happens, like him gaining a yard of pace, learning to shoot, or gaining a repertoire of tricks, i fail to see what he will bring to the team once we have a settled centre midfield, so Zog can go on the left! right now after seeing n'zogbia on the left and through the middle i believe the lad himself is right...his best position is through the middle

how many good games did n'zogbia have last season ? agree, this season hes been pick of the bunch, duff hasnt played well(except 2 games) since hes joined us though and he has no future ahead of him..n'zogbia does hes much younger with more ability plus there wont be room in the squad for duff when we sign messi, kaka, berbatov, henry, ronaldinho, c ronaldo if we sign them charles will be cleaning boots ps no thanks to ronaldinho

right now very happy with n'zogbia centre attacking midfield Against Stoke maybe. He was dominated pretty easily today. you mean today he didn't dominate the game ? that type of thing happens with half a team out. No, he was easily dominated. They coped with him very easily today i thought. He only had any real effect when he pushed out to the left occassionally for the last 20 minutes or so. Such a massive waste if we keep him there long-term. yup he was easy dominated....why ?2 men on him and limited options perhaps ? could a decent central midfield solve this ie no bolton player marked rozenhal meaning they could double man elsewhere.

how many good games did n'zogbia have last season ?

I think you will find Duffs best attribute at Blackburn WAS his pace. I agree his other attributes included the ability to make good decisions, but doing this at pace like he used to and doing this whilst strolling are two very different animals Duff will always do OK at Newcastle without ever becoming a fans favourite yeah i suppose for some,like butt..."if you aren't fanatastic to start i'll hate you forever"

right now very happy with n'zogbia centre attacking midfield Against Stoke maybe. He was dominated pretty easily today. you mean today he didn't dominate the game ? that type of thing happens with half a team out.

we didn't defend,for the most part we just didn't let them have control of the ball

right now very happy with n'zogbia centre attacking midfield

duffs main attribute was never pace but the ability to just do the right thing...the right move off the ball...the right pass...be in the right place. bit like a shearer of the wing...2 years of injuries wont have helped. pleased he's here now and he'll be a bonus till the end of the season...then who knows ?

the day after we beat west ham at home in the promotion season telling the l;ads i played 5--a-side with "get your names down for a season ticket.. this is gonna take off big style" . that day, one of the lads (a plastic scouser who does know his football) laughed at me when i said we'd be pushing them next season. that afternoon sitting with my dads mate eddie in the club. after years of people saying "what happened to YOUR team yesterday". he battered down all those who now came in with "how good were WE yesterday?" that sunday was the best of those few days in your life when you know you are at the start of something fantastic but tell people and they'll probably not believe you.

and from the hince article.......for a team "fathoms" out of their depth to finish ninth in their first season back up aint all bad i would have thought.

I think that is a brilliant point. I cant think of another club where a man, returning after nothing was won duting the inital reign, can create such complete and utter delerium. I have felt so proud this week this "won nothing" stuff is realy beginning to nark me...we finished 2nd in the top division..we were the 2nd best team in the country...if we'd finished 10th and won the FA cup...guess what...we'd still be the 10th best team in the country.

i had an nufc mug,pillow case,jumper in the late 70's

thought i was the only one who saw it that way At least 3 of us have already said that in the thread though, so don't know why you felt left out you were putting his value at £40mill as if he keeps them up thats what it will be worth to them. i think,and he may well correct me, that all managers massivly overvalue their players to the press in order to push up any price should they need to sell. which managers do you know of would give a realistic valuation of one of their players when not looking to sell him ?

the thing i have no problem with keegans rant...how many rants has ferguson had.. remember the rant about the ref not playing enough added on time that led to him holding up his own stop watch at games. alex ferguson plays mind games...other managers say the same thing and its called whinging

yeah Ok. I'm up for it I suppose.

yes you can get in but the stewards may want to have a rummage around (ie don't bring your gay times this time) great av by the way