Wullie

Wullie 32 Ta much.

Keep bollocks like that to yourself tbh. You won't find 'many' on this forum who don't think Keegan was a success at NUFC.

Well played to everyone involved.

Just Rob Lee, signed too.

Oh no.

That's what I was thinking. Plenty of good managers make shite pundits. We get a host of them. Here's two managers for example that were absolute dogshit: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Palms/6687/keggy.html http://www.england2006.co.uk/bobbyrobson.htm Glad we never had those two. im not on about making the odd 'bobby-ism', i am on about rabbling on as if you are delirious, the bloke doesnt talk any footballing sense whatsoever And yet he picked France to win the tournament, while the others all picked teams that went to the QFs at best. What exactly do you mean by footballing sense? I agree with you he's a shite pundit. So are a lot of people, including two of Newcastle's greatest managers (and one of England's :wink:). so he was wrong as well then? Better to be wrong on the matter of one missed penalty then pick teams who went out two rounds before them tbh. Has he been a pundit in the past, I don't remember that?

That's what I was thinking. Plenty of good managers make shite pundits. We get a host of them. Here's two managers for example that were absolute dogshit: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Palms/6687/keggy.html http://www.england2006.co.uk/bobbyrobson.htm Glad we never had those two. im not on about making the odd 'bobby-ism', i am on about rabbling on as if you are delirious, the bloke doesnt talk any footballing sense whatsoever And yet he picked France to win the tournament, while the others all picked teams that went to the QFs at best. What exactly do you mean by footballing sense? I agree with you he's a shite pundit. So are a lot of people, including two of Newcastle's greatest managers (and one of England's :wink:).

That's what I was thinking. Plenty of good managers make shite pundits. We get a host of them. Here's two managers for example that were absolute dogshit: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Palms/6687/keggy.html http://www.england2006.co.uk/bobbyrobson.htm Glad we never had those two.

Judging a manager on the standard of his punditry - fantastic.

No I was correcting Stevie on what he said. Never mentioned 52,000 season tickets, never mentioned a shite board. Is this hard for you to understand? So, what is your opinion on "only" selling 40-45,000 tickets ? Do you or do you not, think expanding the stadium further is a viable project ? Do you think we should have moved to Castle Leazes ? If not, then is it because you think we wouldn't get the support, or do you think the current directors aren't capable of overseeing the project as opposed to their predecessors who were unable to improve SJP in the previous 80 years ? Who are you quoting when you say "only"?

No I was correcting Stevie on what he said. Never mentioned 52,000 season tickets, never mentioned a shite board. Is this hard for you to understand?

Utterly terrible that we can't sell 52,000 season tickets. With such a shite board eh. Where are all these superior directors at other clubs who shift half that amount with no problem ? Sad and deluded or what. Give it a rest man. Shame Wullie, but I think people like you should give it a rest and get some perspective instead of coming out with the tripe that you do. I have posted facts, not opinions, facts. Disprove them if you can. Sad and deluded. If you think not shifting 52,000 season tickets is a sign of a shit board, running a shit club, you really have a serious problem mate. Hey, but then again, your boss has admitted he isn't bothered that we haven;t won a trophy, he's happy to have stayed at SJP instead, so the board have fulfilled his dreams and ambitions. My boss. I should give it a rest? Funny but I'm not the one who mentioned the board, and have no intention of doing so. Still, keep plugging away.

Utterly terrible that we can't sell 52,000 season tickets. With such a shite board eh. Where are all these superior directors at other clubs who shift half that amount with no problem ? Sad and deluded or what. Give it a rest man.

Loudest Masters I've heard, the Pool fans giving stick to Martin Scott was class.

I should probably try and start writing again. God I'm so fucking lazy.

I love the examples you gave: N'Zogbia - granted, a real find. How often does that happen though, unless you're Arsene Wenger? Parker - a £10m buy for Chelsea, hardly came out of nowhere. Chopra - shite, peddled. Milner - poor first season, loaned. You've convinced me.

Correct. Not sure if this is correct, really. When was the last time this happened? Albert Luque? Plus the amount of people in this thread alone who have judged him on 2 games is astonishing.

Correct.

Jesus wept! Seriously some of you need to have a word with yourselves.

Amazing how many people backing Bellamy by saying he loved us seem to forget this quote from when we bid for Rooney. .................... when confronted with the possibility of non-guaranteed selection for the 1st team - ie. following Kluivert's arrival, with a Kluivert/Bellamy 1st choice strikepairing on the horizon - didn't Shearer similarly question his own future at the club. Yet Shearer's "love for the club" hasn't been similarly compromised in many a supporter's eyes. Perhaps it's a case "hear no evil, see no evil" where certain individuals are concerned. From nufc.com's Match Reports. Alan Shearer told the Chronicle: "I think it would be great if we signed Rooney. "He will be a fantastic asset and a great investment for this football club. "It would be a great coup for the city and for the club if we can attract him here. "If he is thinking about going abroad to Real Madrid or whatever then he can do that in four or five years time. He is only 18 and he is still effectively learning his trade. "He will only be 22 or 23 in four years time so he's got plenty of time on his side and I think it would be a great step for him." "Obviously it's all up in the air at the moment. Yes he would put my place under threat. It would put everyone under threat. So what? "If he can come in and do well, then great. It's always been the rules of football if someone comes in and does well, you support him and say well done. "We are all in it for this football club and if Rooney comes in and improves us, then we are all for it and I am 100% behind that. "If we can get him it would be brilliant." The comments i refer to, when Shearer in a decidely more eloquent and media friendly manner left a distinct impression that he'd indeed look after his own interests in the event of SBR no longer guaranteeing him regular 1st team football, took place earlier in that particular transfer window ie. around the time of the Kluivert transfer. Somebody will find them although i'm certain they won't be found on dot.cock. "If the manager said to me I wasn't going to be a regular, I'd have to consider things. I want to play as much football as I can in my last season. I think there's a good year left in my legs. I was pleased with passing 20 goals again last season and I hope I do the same, if not better this year."

I hate any justification of anyone being given the job that uses the term 'give him a chance' as if we're a fucking charity who any old bugger can have a go at managing.

The debate comes down to one simple issue: whether or not you think he's had enough time on the field (fit and under a manager who is not dragging every single one of them down) for his ability and worth to NUFC to be judged. 90 minutes, spread across 6 games. Some think that's enough to judge a player. Some don't. And we will never agree.

Neither have you. I've seen him play every time he has, and from what i've seen, he's deserved **** all. Still, maybe we SHOULD play him all the time. After all, he was great fro Depor........ I've seen him play every time he has as well. Since Glenn Roeder took over, that's 90 minutes total, made up of substitute appearances - often at the back end of games which are either already lost or we've been hanging on and not attacking. I refuse to judge a player on that. We didn't lose that many under Roeder? I refuse to accept that he deserves to be starting based on his (admittedly limited) performances. If he can't show some individual talent in the time he's had, he's not worth it. I personally want rid. I realise that i am Officially Wrong about that, and that he should be given 400 consecutive games, and NEVER judged until he's good, but fuck it, thats how i feel. I feel angery when a supposedly great player turns out to be a waster, but shit happens. Until people stop twisting words and making stuff up, this debate is not worth having anymore tbh.

Neither have you. I've seen him play every time he has, and from what i've seen, he's deserved fuck all. Still, maybe we SHOULD play him all the time. After all, he was great fro Depor........ I've seen him play every time he has as well. Since Glenn Roeder took over, that's 90 minutes total, made up of substitute appearances - often at the back end of games which are either already lost or we've been hanging on and not attacking. I refuse to judge a player on that.

Neither have you.