The College Dropout

I do think there’s a fundamental flaw in our targeted approach. Did we seriously think we would land Huijsen? JP - I get it. Bid accepted. Been talking to his agent for years I assume. Last minute Chelsea come along. But Huijsen had everyone in Europe after him.

I got to mute you @Unbelievable Your argument doesn’t make sense and it’s a waste of my time.

Why wouldn’t they just redevelop or build a new stadium? Than this? Footballers are more liquid assets I guess

Most Arsenal fans don’t consider Nwaneri a winger.

I do think PIF is likely to jump if rules completely disappear. But I wouldn’t assume the strategy is to #wait

We are a long way from challenging for the PL or becoming a force in Europe. We don't have the resources. I don't see the long-term strategy or trajectory closing the gap aggressively enough.

Newcastle Chair Yasir Al-Rumayyan believes a “five-year timescale is a realistic one to turn them into a club who compete for silverware every season, regularly play in the Champions League and eventually compete for the Premier League title.” “renewed push over the next five years to establish Newcastle as a powerful force in English and European football … labelling it Project 2030,” according to Luke Edwards of the London TELEGRAPH. I don't have access to the actual Telegraph interview. To me that indicates jumping up a level in every way on the pitch. High 70s point finishes, regular CL football, QF appearances. That's how I take the stated ambition in tangible terms. 29/30 season to be in that space. I like it as a target. It's aggressive but not overly where we have to be on the cutting-edge of PSR/FFP shortcuts. This is YAR quoted or at least summarised - not by me.

Where’s the entitlement to an APT deal? Other peope have suggested that’s a reason for the lack of smaller additional deals. Daniel Levy is an owner that I know wants to maximise revenue. He’s said bluntly Spurs haven’t received a satisfactory offer for the stadium name and such. That’s fine. Our own fans are suggesting APT is holding up deals. Not me. I’ll only ever hold our owners to their own stated ambition. I shared it above. ‘A domestic and European force over the next 4/5 years’. Current trajectory - bar sustained over performance from the coaching and playing staff - I don’t see how we get there. CEO and other roles will be crucial. As is PIFs true desire and commitment to make that a reality. A lower ambition is fine too. But my expectations are aligned to their own words.

Ashley left millions on the table - what are you talking about ? He left millions due to laziness and preferring to prioritisd his own brands. 20 80 rule type stuff. we don’t know what we would get with APT or otherwise because we dint have any deal.

This is a lot of waffle. He’s making it sound as if we don’t have PIF related partner lined up. Could all be smokescreen. But if taken at face value - they just haven’t found a worthwhile deal in 3 years. It’s not a high priority it seems because the numbers are relatively low. That’s my reading of what is a lot of waffle.

I would assume I know more about football at large than YAR tbf. He would obviously know plenty more about running a football club or any large organisation. Boehly didn’t recognise Ruud Gullit by face or name. I doubt he’s the only major PL shareholder or boardmember that wouldn’t. We all accept football managers don’t know everything and make mistakes. But the money men - yeh they know everything and definitely don’t make mistakes. We all criticised Steve Bruce while he was here. He definitely knows more than all of us about football, coaching and management. He’s had a good career of it. But it was ok to critically think about his approach though right?

I also don’t think ‘appointing experts’ is enough. Every successful club has someone with real skin in the game making important calls and decisions. Florentino to Levy. They ain’t just executive employees.

Mate it’s peoples entire job to speculate as to what particular businesses will do - as outsiders. Im speculating based on what has happened and what the club has said. And I can also disagree about decisions the club has made. Genuine question - what have I missed regarding the lack of sponsorships that the club has said. Give me a direct quote. And with critical thinking - could you suggest the potential positives and negatives of that approach? Because there will still be trade offs in any strategy.

Nobody's discussing alternatives to their ownership though. We are just ideating on how they could do better. It's my view - that we are currently not being aggressive enough with finances to make that a reality. We aren't landing our primary transfer targets because we can't offer up the money. We are relying on major overperformance from the existing staff to get into the CL. We'll see where we land after the window but we need to significantly strengthen to give the staff a chance of requalifying. Which according to my interpretation of the aims - we intend to go back to back in the CL at least once over the next 4 years.

"to establish Newcastle as a powerful force in English and European football" over the next now 4-5 years. That's open to interpretation. For me that means a regular CL team with the ability to go semi-deep. Prime Spurs level I guess.

NEWCASTLE UNITED - FUCK YEH!!!!!!1

He's not interested in a discussion. He is the agenda-driven one. "PIF know best, they are definitely doing the very best thing for the club that they could possibly do - we just haven't seen it yet. So shut up." I do think PIF are doing the best that they can with the club, within the parameters of NUFC as a footballing priority for them. That might mean as you you've mentioned, not going the related sponsor route for the training ground for example.

Because i'm not blindly assuming PIF know best in every situation? This is essentially your critique of my posts. I've never once said PIF are bad Owners. But I can only assume that's not your issue. Eddie Howe doesn't know best in every situation. Neither did Steve Jobs. As an invested member of NUFC, a fan, and prolific message board poster - why wouldn't I debate the merits of their moves or non-moves?

I am sceptical that they have the required desire or skill to get us to their stated ambition. And there's evidence for that - the money left on the table with sponsorships, slow progress on infrastructure, not challenging PSR/FFP rules, slow/reluctant to even use legal PSR/FFP loopholes other teams have used.

To be clear, my only agenda is the betterment of NUFC. I am neither pro or anti-PIF, I have no personal feelings towards them as an entity. They are simply our Owners, I just want them to do the best job possible as stewards of NUFC. I love the stated ambition they have for the club, it excites me. And the potential we have, with them as owners, is massive. Unparalleled in the European game.

Why would I be anti-PIF?

What's my agenda?

Why is there no point? we might as well not talk about the transfer window. That at least has a known deadline.

If we treated Newcastle like a PLC we would be investors. Investors speculate about business strategy. As football fans we are more than investors. There’s emotional labour, financial support and more. I hate how anti-speculation people are about it ON A MESSAGE BOARD. I agree with @Keegans Export we don’t know what PIF intend to do but clearly there’s money been left on the table.

More of an Odegaard cover. A 10 more than a winger.