Flip

Suarez.

Fair enough, another 10 players are still better than Hazard.

Enlighten me how he's definitely in the top 10. Neuer, Fabregas, Ribery, Robben, Muller, Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Aguero, Zlatan, Cristiano are all in my opinion better players. So not sure I agree he's definitely in the top 10. I understand there is a case to put him above some players, but we can't go on what he would be in another role. Because for Belgium he has more of a free role on the left where he doesn't really need to track back and he's outshone by De Bruyne most of the times who both tracks back and does more offensively. I like Hazard and think he's an absolute fantastic player, but IMO he's not a top 10 in the world. Even forgot Di Maria and Kroos in that list. I'll repeat it again if you're going to consider him as a striker then he'll definitely not figure in a top 10. However if I consider him as a conventional winger then yes he has been really good. Also I'm talking for only this season so forget the WC etc... I don't consider him a striker, where have I said that? Even on this season purely I don't see him as a top 10 player.

Ah man thought their game was later. Been following them a bit this year. Have a fun team to watch with some good players in Gustavo, De Bruyne and Rodriguez and now Schurrle and Dost playing extremely well of late.

Might be some decent value on 1X and X2 tonight I think. Club Brugge X2, Tottenham 1X, Everton X2, Inter X2, Dynamo Kiev X2 gives a decent value. Can see Inter and Kiev having tight games but they should win in my opinion. Got almost 5 times the money on that.

Forgot all about Sanchez. Reus has been underwhelming after coming back from his injury.

Enlighten me how he's definitely in the top 10. Neuer, Fabregas, Ribery, Robben, Muller, Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Aguero, Zlatan, Cristiano are all in my opinion better players. So not sure I agree he's definitely in the top 10. I understand there is a case to put him above some players, but we can't go on what he would be in another role. Because for Belgium he has more of a free role on the left where he doesn't really need to track back and he's outshone by De Bruyne most of the times who both tracks back and does more offensively. I like Hazard and think he's an absolute fantastic player, but IMO he's not a top 10 in the world. Even forgot Di Maria and Kroos in that list.

Nah, the few coming out of the Brazilian league at the moment I don't know. Do follow the ones who are relatively successful in Europe though. I remember Nene complaining how Zlatan took him off his throne as he was a fan favourite at Paris and Zlatan basically forced him to the bench and then away from the club. What's that little c*** named Mosquito up to these days, Flip? Trying to break into the senior side and get regular games. Always gets games and goals for the national youth teams, but at Atl Paranense he's probably not impressed considering he's played few games. Still young, but Brazilian players that don't play at the top level at 18-19 I have no hopes for, so it be a pleasant surprise if he had a successful career.

Would he get to play as much and be the top dog like he is for big parts at Chelsea? I mean Robben, Ribery and Muller are all better players IMO. I just don't think Hazard is THAT good, because I've seen him disappear more times than the others do. He's an excellent player and might one day be a top 3 player, but for me he's not a top 10 at the moment.

Corinthians apparently impressed and won 2-0. Their 1-0 goal is sublime. Look it up, absolutely amazing goal. The 2-0 should never have stood.

Ah knew that was coming. I meant non-from-that-region

Who watches middle eastern football?

Meyer looks like a decent player. Isco reminded me a lot of Veratti from yesterday in terms of in possession. Controlled the tempo.

Nah, the few coming out of the Brazilian league at the moment I don't know. Do follow the ones who are relatively successful in Europe though. I remember Nene complaining how Zlatan took him off his throne as he was a fan favourite at Paris and Zlatan basically forced him to the bench and then away from the club.

They started out decently tbf, didn't let Real Madrid do much, but as the game progressed they just got worse and worse.

Lucas Silva starting for Real Madrid. Really hope he succeeds. We're in big lack of a midfielder for the NT. Don't think he is good enough yet, but clearly has talent and I see him as a better prospect than Illarramendi.

This guy used to run the show for PSG, think he was the top scorer one season in the Ligue 1 or at least close to as he seemed to score every other week. Very technical player, no idea how he'll do in the PL though and with age I don't see him being a success. Was part of the Santos with Elano, Robinho, Diego and couple other players that was unbelievable back in early-mid 2000s.

Was a horrible season for Brazilian football. As for group 2 it looks absolutely shit that two of those teams will go out. Haven't seen Danubio but my bet is on one of the Brazilians + San Lorenzo. Which would be shameful considering Corinthians and Sao Paulo financially are much more powerful than either of those (no idea about Danubio but don't expect them to be too rich).

Fucking Disco man. You going to follow the Libertadores this year? Thinking of following it the whole way instead of just caring towards the quarter-finals or so when the shit teams are out.

So group stages in Libertadores started yesterday and Anderson lasted 36minutes on the pitch when his Internacional went to Bolivia to play in the altitude against The Strongest. Subbed off after 36minutes and need an oxygen mask :lol: God damn it. They lost 3-1 as well.

He's never been regarded as that kind of player IMO - a trickster - he's more in the bracket of "supremely effective" - like Robben. Not the best on the eye, but very destructive in your side. Wish he played for Belgium the same way he plays for Chelsea. With the national team he tends to stop the flow of the play constantly. De Bruyne runs the show there. Hazard has everything to be a top 3 player in the world, but sometimes it doesn't look like he's giving his all out there. He's never going to be a top 3 in the world player with Mourinho as manager IMO. He spends too much time in his own half and tracking back to get ridiculous amounts of goals and assists He doesn't track back THAT much in non-important games yet he doesn't score a shitload either.

Absolutely brilliant at winning fouls though. That's what is going to put him in that top bracket. Winning fouls. He needs to buck Mourinho. Anything short of winning the league & reaching CL Final would be an underachievement for Chelsea. Winning the league and going out to Bayern, Barcelona or Real Madrid in the semi's won't ever be seen as an underachievement. There's no reason Chelsea shouldn't be able to beat one of those considering how they're performing in the league, their experience and signings over the last few years. The squad and team is exactly how their manager likes it. 1 trophy in 2 years would be poor from Mourinho. Absolutely, I just don't think it's an underachievement. Still think they're the 4th best team in Europe so it (imo btw) wouldn't really be an underachievement to lose to one of the three teams which imo are better.

It's because he's clearly not a top 3 player in the world tbf. He's an excellent footballer but there's a case for him not being top three in the PL as well with Aguero, Yaya, Di Maria and Fabregas. Although going by Yaya's and Man U's season he could easily be seen within that top 3 as well. He'd have trouble starting for both Barcelona and Bayern as well. IMO.

Colin Murray's show insisting that they arent football fans at all its people attaching themselves to Chelsea to cause trouble. Its that attitude that has Eurotrash in places like Serbia, why cant the media accept that our precious game isnt as saintly as they proclaim? Jesus a look at mackems recent past tells you its there. I agree with you, but in a sense he's right. People who fight over football aren't fans. Football fans are those who watch games, cheer/boo their team, but don't use violence. People going to games to cause trouble aren't football fans, they're just going to games because it's an environment where violence is vaguely accepted. Pushing the guy off is absolutely shameful. Fair play for him being ''stupid'' enough to confront them again though Could've easily gotten his head smashed. I agree with you, it was just Murrays insistence that theres no problem in English football and these couldnt possibly be even a tiny bit fans of football. Was very naive and head in the sand stuff to avoid discussing it beyond calling them scum. Whether they are fans or not they are a part of football sadly, they pay enough money to follow Chelsea all over the country/Europe. Seems a lot of money and effort to be racist when they can do that at home if that was their point.

Absolutely brilliant at winning fouls though. That's what is going to put him in that top bracket. Winning fouls. He needs to buck Mourinho. Anything short of winning the league & reaching CL Final would be an underachievement for Chelsea. Winning the league and going out to Bayern, Barcelona or Real Madrid in the semi's won't ever be seen as an underachievement.