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Ronaldo really isn't a magician all the time. I've seen him disappear in so many games man, and many of them important ones. Just look at the CL final, he didn't perform at all. It wasn't until Di Maria and Marcelo turned it up a notch that Real won it. I'm not taking anything away from him, but Zidane's ceiling was IMO definitely higher thaN CRonaldo. Anyways, doesn't matter. Different players, different era.

This post You are either deliberately forgetting the 2006 World Cup to suit your argument or didn't watch it at all. No one is saying CRonaldo isn't one of the greatest, but if it was down to one final game and I had to pick between the two, I'd take Zidane 10 times out of 10. The guy was simply the best when it mattered the most. v Brazil 98', Portugal 00', Bayer Leverkusen 02', game against Spain, Brazil, Portugal and even Italy until the headbut in the 06' World Cup. He was just that good at his best, what CRonaldo has over him is consistency, that doesn't mean Zidane wasn't consistent, just meant he turned it up a notch in the most important games.

That's what I enjoy the most about him, such a prick on the pitch Always looking to get under players skin. I'd still play Cabaye instead of him for PSG because of the sheer fact they need to score at the moment, but Veratti is going to be a player that will play until his late 30's considering the way he plays the game.

CD must have been so unlucky if Veratti has been poor every time he's seen him. He's inconsistent no doubt, but has such a high ceiling.

Giving a 9 to Ronaldo and 10 to Messi says it all about Ronaldo. He played one season, as a 20-21 year old at Barcelona. Imagine what would've been of him without injuries. Already before joining Barcelona he had trouble with injuries at PSV. The guy was everything you could ask for from a number 9. That said Messi is the best player I've seen play.

Xavi is one of those that will always be remembered as a fantastic player but not in the same bracket as the top. Unfortunately, at his prime he was such an amazing footballer but I think both Iniesta and Messi outshone him a bit in the end.

Just remember watching him desperately trying to reach 1000 goals in his career. Was like 40 or something and started forcing Vasco to arrange friendlies against tiny regional clubs in Rio where he would score 4 or 5 a game Such a legend. Much more occupied with women and alcohol than football, yet he managed to achieve everything he did.

Nah, no way. Ronaldinho had a two year peak at the absolute best man, Zidane had far more consistency than that. Ronaldinho did put Barcelona back on the map after a few years of decline and was a foundation to the winning sides after him, but as a player Zidane was better and had a better career as well. Understand what you mean but Romario is in the real top tier though, top player in the early to mid 90s. Him and Roberto Baggio are the two best player of that generation as I consider Maradona more of a 80s player than a 90s player where he got into loads of trouble. Romario was far more than goals, in terms of talents few players reached his, unfortunately he was content being the best during his time than have ambitions to be the best of all times. I know what you're saying, his goal record is def padded out a bit though! I wouldn't take it away from him but technical ability he was miles below Zidane imo His goal record is bullshit man He started playing friendlies against shit teams in mid 2000s just so he could reach 1000 goals in his career Played amateur sides and counted them as career goals, officially he was never close to the 1000s.

That's fair enough, it was a bit like Mole said, if you had to pick a player over many years I'd probably pick CRonaldo, but if it was for the most important game I'd pick Zidane 10 out of 10 times and that's what makes a legend in my opinion. He just has that ability to turn it up a notch when it was needed. I think he needed that motivation to perform.

Santoon, I don't want to be that guy, but you're talking out of your arse right now. Technically he was superior to most players during his generation if not all, his close control, individual creativeness, intelligence and movement on the pitch was out of this world. Problem with the guy was clearly that he was more interested in parties and just playing matches than training to be the absolute best. Think VI could confirm that he barely showed up to trainings at Barcelona and most clubs he played for.

Nah, no way. Ronaldinho had a two year peak at the absolute best man, Zidane had far more consistency than that. Ronaldinho did put Barcelona back on the map after a few years of decline and was a foundation to the winning sides after him, but as a player Zidane was better and had a better career as well. Understand what you mean but Romario is in the real top tier though, top player in the early to mid 90s. Him and Roberto Baggio are the two best player of that generation as I consider Maradona more of a 80s player than a 90s player where he got into loads of trouble. Romario was far more than goals, in terms of talents few players reached his, unfortunately he was content being the best during his time than have ambitions to be the best of all times.

Yet both won the equal amount of league and CL titles in the equal amount of years at Real. I think Zidane made other around him better and would therefore rather build a team around him. I'm also one of those that rate the WC as the best competition to win so my opinion is maybe not entirely reflective of their club careers. Messi over the years is more successful and better than CRonaldo man. Not even close in my opinion. It's not until Messi started getting injuries here and there that Ronaldo got close to him and over-lapped him in terms of the best in the world.

Considering you're going to a derby and will be watching it live, although a smaller derby than the other Rio matches I expect you to enjoy it. At the end of the day most of them are still around NUFC level under Pardew.

Zidane was better. He was.

Only two interesting teams I've watched, granted I rarely watch Brazilian league football because individually you'll find good players but the teams lack discipline and tactics. Except a few of them.

Checked his wiki. A year and a bit more between playing for Wycombe Wanderers and us. That explains it all.

He's by far the best 15-year old I've ever seen. He's a #10, but can probably play anywhere in attack. He's got a sweet left peg, excellent control, pace, vision, the lot. He's already won his first cap for Norway and I expect him to feature heavily in the EC qualifiers. He seems a very humble kid as well. If he can keep the attitude right can become an absolute star. I think Barca is a very decent choice for him. Just hope he stays away from England. I can't remember having watched a 15 year old play before at professional level if I'm being honest. I wonder if you're going to say he's the best 17 year old you've seen in 2 years time.

59 and lost my head-to-head. 5-0-2 now. Guy had 71p ffs. Mistake not having Di Maria as a captain. Adebayor or Lukaku are gone next round.

Save it for the forum awards :lol:

It's unbelievable. I just don't get it, it's so fucking obvious.

This fucking ref in the Juve match man. No penalty first of all on Maicon and then he gives Totti a yellow for celebrating with the Roma fans from the pitch. Bullshit. Lost the plot completely. Interesting game though. MBiwa looks like exactly the player we miss in the league also

Him and Adebayor man. Need at least a goal from one of them.

Great as all my fantasy leaguers have Baines