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Alright, get on with it, you haven't seen the clip recently so no point. I've re-watched it before my second post on the matter to verify my initial view. The thing that makes it look like a possible red is just the pace with which Dummett goes in, nothing else. It was clearly a foul as far as I am concerned, but that's not my point here. My point is that Suarez makes the most of it to get an opposition player sent off. That is not a judgement based on reputation, it's looking at the facts of the specific incident, which reaffirm the reputation. If that incident is the cause of his current injury it's not such a preposterous suggestion at all to suggest it might not have happened if he had attempted to "ride the challenge" to minimise the chance of an injury occurring. I agree that it was never a yellow btw. I just think that he doesn't actually go looking for the foul, as he's looking for the ball. He doesn't have control for it, as for exaggeration it might have happened, I'm not 100% convinced that he throws himself into the air just to get Dummett off. I thinke veryone was surprised it was a red, it was just a lazy late challenge that warranted a yellow. I just think people judging Suarez on that are doing it based on reputation as there was contact and the spin in their does happen it that type of contact. Although I do get your point now, at the beginning I thought you meant that the knee injury was more likely to have resulted from him throwing himself into the air and injuring the knee when falling onto the grass which tbh seems impossible considering the way he fell onto the grass. I agree on most with you though I just think that it's impossible for him to seek the challenge when his eyes are purely on the ball then after contact if he throws himself or not is a much more 50/50 in my opinion. Reminds me of the Pepe challenge on Dani in the CL couple of seasons back.

I watched it at the time. Very slight contact then Suarez f***ing launched himself into the air. If you can't see that, then there is no help for you. Fair enough, I wish you all luck with your elephants memory. Slight contact, so slight that the guy did his meniscus and might miss the World Cup.

Alright, get on with it, you haven't seen the clip recently so no point.

Alright, while I'm watching the clip as we type, you're taking a picture as evidence while also trying to remember the contact. Tons of clip around the internet, if you need help try to use a search engine.

It was a clumsy late challenge, I didn't think it warranted a red either (was a yellow), but to say it was his diving attempt that caused the impact is absolutely ridiculous and you very much know so yourself. I didn't say it was a "dive", Dummett went in clumsily and out of control; he was clearly fouled. I do however believe Suarez looked for the contact a little bit with his leg left trailing, then flung himself in the air while rolling over for dramatic effect. Maybe if he wasn't such a c*** and had tried to make a meal of it he wouldn't have got injured. Suarez has no idea of where Dummett is, he misses the ball at first and then tries to get it as the ball is behind him. Your assumption is purely based on reputation, and there's no way that if oyu watched the foul again you'd think that. If you do, there's no further discussion as we won't agree

You're surely taking the piss. Didn't touch Suarez? This forum at times, take off those black&white glasses ffs. It's quite a hard hit knee-to-knee hit. For me it's a yellow because it's a clumsy tackle, but if you're unable to see contact and think that he actually throws himself than you're deluded.

It was a clumsy late challenge, I didn't think it warranted a red either (was a yellow), but to say it was his diving attempt that caused the impact is absolutely ridiculous and you very much know so yourself.

I'd say it was more the reaction that followed that made him an arsehole in that situation. Still, the World Cup will be worse off without him. Yeah the reaction of leaving the pitch basically in tears until Gyan missed the penalty. I'm sorry, but had it been Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Sissoko, Alan Shearer everyone on here would be applauding it. Hypocritical as fuck. (not aimed at you btw)

Deliberately cheated. Anyone who says that's ok is missing the point of sport. Also if your using that logic Solskjaer did 'nothing wrong' in scything down Rob Lee. He was suitably punished, Solskjaer wasn't. Fine, but since when has a suitable punishment meant that someone did 'nowt wrong'? Never as you wouldn't get punished if you'd done nowt wrong, it was just a throwaway turn of phrase man. I'll rephrase it to: He doesn't deserve any vitriol for doing what he did. The fact he gets s*** for doing something that helped his nation come 4th in the World Cup is absolutely ridiculous. He did what anyone SHOULD do in a situation like that. You can take the kid out of South America.... ...well done Neil.

You lot pretending like you'd be pissed off if one of our own did that in CL quarter final. It's as much cheating as bringing someone down when going through on goal.

Clermont Foot in second division of french football hired a woman as their new manager. GIGGS?

Dan is on drugs again.

Deliberately cheated. Anyone who says that's ok is missing the point of sport. Also if your using that logic Solskjaer did 'nothing wrong' in scything down Rob Lee. He was suitably punished, Solskjaer wasn't. Fine, but since when has a suitable punishment meant that someone did 'nowt wrong'? Never as you wouldn't get punished if you'd done nowt wrong, it was just a throwaway turn of phrase man. I'll rephrase it to: He doesn't deserve any vitriol for doing what he did. The fact he gets shit for doing something that helped his nation come 4th in the World Cup is absolutely ridiculous. He did what anyone SHOULD do in a situation like that.

Didn't Giggs also veto a Thiago transfer or is that purely rumour? Poor Moyes. Kroos and Thiago would've done wonders for him

Absolutely amazing. 101 on how to make a shirt even with a sponsor on.

got meeself theee peeepaaaal. Will be joining the bracket whenever I get home. France to win the WC, you heard it here first. Sissoko to kiss the trophy.

Zabaleta is rather average comparing to the RBs we've had in the world in the past. It's the fact the world is lacking in talent that he's considered one of the best rather than his own talent.

I'm in if there's a way to wire money internationally without paying a huge feeeeee.

Matias Fernandez will miss the WC. Big blow for Chile, maybe not a huge one, but he's still important part of that squad and a good player. If Vidal doesn't get fit in time I do wonder whether Netherlands might go through to the next round.

Not too bad - that's with CR7 centre forward. Think Veloso is crap now but not sure William Carvalho is quite good enough. And second point is not valid as you have David Luiz the massive arsehole. If you consider Veloso, Varela, Nani, Joao Pereira and Raul Meireles than you're right it's not bad. But I don't rate any of them above average players so for me they're lacking massively. It's the Real Madrid trio + Joao Moutinho that for me are good players.

Presents herself and that she is enjoying the 'sumbart' ?? (I guess the place they're in as I don't really get the last word) As for his English, I think it's rather decent tbf whenever he's interviewed he speaks better than most foreigners. St Barts? There we go. Looked at it again you're right.

Presents herself and that she is enjoying the 'sumbart' ?? (I guess the place they're in as I don't really get the last word) As for his English, I think it's rather decent tbf whenever he's interviewed he speaks better than most foreigners.

Portugal squad: Beto (Sevilla), Eduardo (Braga), Rui Patricio (Sporting), Andre Almeida (Benfica), Bruno Alves (Fenerbahce), Fabio Coentreo (Real Madrid), Joao Pereira (Valencia), Neto (Zenit), Pepe (Real Madrid), Ricardo Costa (Valencia). Joao Moutinho (Monaco), Miguel Veloso (Dinamo Kiev), Raul Meireles (Fenerbahce), Ruben Amorim (Benfica), William Carvalho (Sporting) Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid), Eder (SC Braga), Helder Postiga (Lazio), Hugo Almeida (Besiktas), Nani (Manchester United), Rafa (Braga), Vieirinha (Wolfsburg), Varela (FC Porto) Never realized they were lacking so much in talent in every department. Alves - Pepe is a nightmare pairing. Remember Brazil - Portugal friendly in November I think it was when hey were trying to kill every Brazilian player on the pitch...

There is a lot of truth in that to be fair, but ironically it looks like we're going to go with 3-5-2 in Brazil.. Mainly because our defenders are f***ing s**** mind.. Seems like a fair few teams will be going with 3-5-2 this year. Everyone trying to copy Brazil's 3-5-2 from 2002.