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I was never going to bite on that shit. Pata, you are a reasonable man most of the time (except when it comes down to the NFL Fantasy).

Thiago Silva is right, but he should just be quiet and let Barton go on with his stuff. Giving Barton a piece of your time is the only thing he wants.

Sorry about that JB hadn't seen that.

Amazing :lol:

Also whoever said higher position in job validates his opinion must answer me, how Di Canio could possibly validate his opinion more as a Sunderland manager than a Swindon manager? He can't influence politics from his position and I'll be the first to say that he'll be sacked as soon as he voices his fascist views. People seem to be forgetting that he is going to coach a football side not start an uprising.

No is suggesting they are separate are they though? We are suggesting they should be separate. Football is a sport, its a global sport where kids go watching games, its entertainment. I don't see many club campaigning for politicians in elections, I don't see any club adopting an ideology. Football as a sport has grown from that time, nowadays it's more 'company politics' rather than real politics. It exists obviously, but that is what is dirty about the sport. In my opinion we only find clear evidence of politics in the highest governing body of football FIFA and Sepp Blatter. Like I said, most know there is politics involved in football, but I don't agree with you or Icke on how you suggest football works today. There was some outrage. And people probably said "where was the outrage when Barclays sponsored the league?" And when people questioned that it would have been "where was the outrage when murdoch got his claws into the game?" You can't have a negative opinion on anything as long as someone can find something dubious you've not devoted exactly as many words and minutes to. True. As we all know the media love their buzz words and easy rabble rousing to stir up copy. This nutter is a fascist in many senses of the word, but people need to research 'the real Nazis' before they throw everybody down the well. They're outraged about a 'fascist' leader who has done nothing of wrong other than showing his colours. I mean even Mussolini man, some must forget he was an opportunist who swung from socialist to right-wing only for the consolidation of power. Di Canio is a mad man and I find it rather disturbing for sunderland fans to know that they've signed a league one manager rather than 'fascist' supporter.

Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. What is a football club? What is politics? I've explained the reasoning behind this. A football club is driven like it's a company and not a political party. No one cares, if you are black, white, olive, pale, socialist, conservative, communist when it comes down to football. It's not the 50's or 60's anymore. I'm aware that there is politics in terms of company politics or what you want to call it, but that isn't the same typ of politics being discussed here. What is being discussed here is that a man who has a political view that hasn't interefered with his job is being considered as a disgrace to football. I think it's rather more a disgrace that they have signed a league one manager who clearly has had tons of problems at past clubs. But has he let his fascist view get in the way of his job as a football manager? I can't find any evidence of that. I'm not defending Di Canio, he should know more as an human being. But claiming he's a disgrace while we as a club have signed some thugs in the past and gotten away with it. Come sunday and they beat Chelsea no one is going to care if he's a fascist or not. Football is as fickle of a game as politics and it's pathetic at times.

Shaka Hislop? Google wasn't your friend there man.

Right.

Your avatar man

You make it sound like people are defending a party leader ready to enter an election, come on man. Like I said, let's not forget us signing Bowyer or Barton.

I just hope he fails massively, imagine that club Oh god, please let them be relegated. Let us beat them a la 5-1 at home couple of years back.

It really is though isn't it Can't find figures but is it true that he spent over £10m on players at Swindon? I don't know a figure but he did spend a lot. One of his ex-chairman said his management style was car crash management. Anyone else see his treatment of Wes Foderingham? Harsh on a 20 year old kid

It really is though isn't it Can't find figures but is it true that he spent over £10m on players at Swindon?

Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. FWIW I think Di Canio should have a look at himself if he supports the belief and firm stance that Benito Mussolini apparently had... The opportunist that he was and the left-wing to right-wing switch is really a firm stand. The man clearly knows nothing about his supposed beliefs and should have a look into history books. We seriously need to thrive for football free from politics, it's beyond ridiculous at times. Di Canio is an ignorant person, but I can bet my house that this man will be as happy as ever if Di Canio wins them a trophy ( won't happen ). I'd also like to thank Cajun and TT for getting me to see the great enjoyment that this is. Di Canio was the one that brought his political beliefs into football, not the other way round. His actions while at Lazio were a disgrace and he was rightly banned for bringing the game into disrepute. Also you can't sperate politics from most things in life, football isn't a exception. First of all, him bringing it in or not, my point is that people is caring more about his political views than his managerial abilities. As for separating politics from most things in life you've must never have played any sports. When you walk into the pitch, you don't care if the other man is a socialist sympathizer or a right-wing extremist. All you care about is winning. That's what sports is about, it's entertainment. Would you refuse to watch a movie if the director said he had fascist views? Sports is entertainment, deal with it. I understand that it's hard to separate politics from most things in life, I'm just saying that people should thrive for it. Obviously that would only happen in an ideal world. Eh? Football and politics are intrinsically linked. It really shouldn't though. Football is about entertainment, enjoyment, it's not about politics. Why shouldn't it be? Politics is a major part of the games history. Club's represent people and places, they're naturally going to take on a political identity too. That's what makes the game great. If you don't like it I suggest you stick to the MLS. Maybe that's how it all started. But that's a long time ago now. It's a global sport now. You have kids from all over the world growing up to support teams half way across the world without having a clue what the politics behind the club originally were. The global nature of the sport has not eradicated the political side of the game. Ask the fans of Barca, Real, Liverpool, Bilbao, St Pauli, Marseille, Livorno, Lazio, AEK, Olympiakos, Celtic, Rangers etc. if they don't care about their club's politics. It's like I said though, it's a different form of politics, obviously every fan cares about the way the club is ran.

League 1 club, Premier League club. Obviously one is going to get more media attention than the other. That's why 90% of football followers will know Chelsea won today but how did Crawley get on this weekend? I guess but if everyone (mainly the press) was so appalled by it then as they claim to be now it would never have come to this. Had the situation been reversed and he'd been appointed here there'd be a fair few backing him regardless too such is the exceptionally tribal/cult nature of football. Devils advocate and all that. I'd hope no one would have backed the appointment, but I would've hoped no one would back it based on his inexperience and him being a mad man rather than his political views. In the end of the days, had Di Canio been in charge here and gotten us to 5th, 98% wouldn't be giving two cents about his views.

Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. FWIW I think Di Canio should have a look at himself if he supports the belief and firm stance that Benito Mussolini apparently had... The opportunist that he was and the left-wing to right-wing switch is really a firm stand. The man clearly knows nothing about his supposed beliefs and should have a look into history books. We seriously need to thrive for football free from politics, it's beyond ridiculous at times. Di Canio is an ignorant person, but I can bet my house that this man will be as happy as ever if Di Canio wins them a trophy ( won't happen ). I'd also like to thank Cajun and TT for getting me to see the great enjoyment that this is. Di Canio was the one that brought his political beliefs into football, not the other way round. His actions while at Lazio were a disgrace and he was rightly banned for bringing the game into disrepute. Also you can't sperate politics from most things in life, football isn't a exception. First of all, him bringing it in or not, my point is that people is caring more about his political views than his managerial abilities. As for separating politics from most things in life you've must never have played any sports. When you walk into the pitch, you don't care if the other man is a socialist sympathizer or a right-wing extremist. All you care about is winning. That's what sports is about, it's entertainment. Would you refuse to watch a movie if the director said he had fascist views? Sports is entertainment, deal with it. I understand that it's hard to separate politics from most things in life, I'm just saying that people should thrive for it. Obviously that would only happen in an ideal world. Eh? Football and politics are intrinsically linked. Historically, yes absolutely. But it's sickening. And I for one was hoping that we'd seen the end of that link with football becoming a global sport. Disagree with that, I think it would be very bland. You know the type of person who follows Chelsea, you know the type of person that follows Liverpool, a region's politics is integral to its identity Please enlighten me, don't really get what you mean? (serious question). It's more than just 22 blokes running around on TV in sportswear, isn't it? The people in the crowd largely didn't pick the club they're following out of a hat or because they like the colour of their strip, it's part of their cultural identity. El Classico isn't just about who's got the best football team now or in the past, it's inherently political. Don't agree. The manupstairs answered that post perfectly to my opinion on this matter. I understand where you are coming form though I just don't necessarily agree.

Don't get whiter then them lads. They're olive coloures man Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. FWIW I think Di Canio should have a look at himself if he supports the belief and firm stance that Benito Mussolini apparently had... The opportunist that he was and the left-wing to right-wing switch is really a firm stand. The man clearly knows nothing about his supposed beliefs and should have a look into history books. We seriously need to thrive for football free from politics, it's beyond ridiculous at times. Di Canio is an ignorant person, but I can bet my house that this man will be as happy as ever if Di Canio wins them a trophy ( won't happen ). I'd also like to thank Cajun and TT for getting me to see the great enjoyment that this is. Di Canio was the one that brought his political beliefs into football, not the other way round. His actions while at Lazio were a disgrace and he was rightly banned for bringing the game into disrepute. Also you can't sperate politics from most things in life, football isn't a exception. First of all, him bringing it in or not, my point is that people is caring more about his political views than his managerial abilities. As for separating politics from most things in life you've must never have played any sports. When you walk into the pitch, you don't care if the other man is a socialist sympathizer or a right-wing extremist. All you care about is winning. That's what sports is about, it's entertainment. Would you refuse to watch a movie if the director said he had fascist views? Sports is entertainment, deal with it. I understand that it's hard to separate politics from most things in life, I'm just saying that people should thrive for it. Obviously that would only happen in an ideal world. Eh? Football and politics are intrinsically linked. It really shouldn't though. Football is about entertainment, enjoyment, it's not about politics. Why shouldn't it be? Politics is a major part of the games history. Club's represent people and places, they're naturally going to take on a political identity too. That's what makes the game great. If you don't like it I suggest you stick to the MLS. There's two goals separated by around 100 metres or so. One ball, 22 players + one main referee. That is why football is popular, not because of the political identities clubs adopted 50-60 years ago. It's 2013. No club except possibly the Basque countries really have a deep political view in their structure. Do you think Chelsea, Liverpool or us cares if the fans are black, white, nazi or fascist as long as we all behave? Politics exists in different forms obviously, but on the pitch, on a saturday afternoon, no one is thinking about politics, it's all about winning the game.

It's not defending it, it's just people are making a bigger meal out of this than it should be tbf. We should be laughing at him being a League 1 manager taking over at Sunderland, rather than him being a 'fascist'. Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. FWIW I think Di Canio should have a look at himself if he supports the belief and firm stance that Benito Mussolini apparently had... The opportunist that he was and the left-wing to right-wing switch is really a firm stand. The man clearly knows nothing about his supposed beliefs and should have a look into history books. We seriously need to thrive for football free from politics, it's beyond ridiculous at times. Di Canio is an ignorant person, but I can bet my house that this man will be as happy as ever if Di Canio wins them a trophy ( won't happen ). I'd also like to thank Cajun and TT for getting me to see the great enjoyment that this is. Di Canio was the one that brought his political beliefs into football, not the other way round. His actions while at Lazio were a disgrace and he was rightly banned for bringing the game into disrepute. Also you can't sperate politics from most things in life, football isn't a exception. First of all, him bringing it in or not, my point is that people is caring more about his political views than his managerial abilities. As for separating politics from most things in life you've must never have played any sports. When you walk into the pitch, you don't care if the other man is a socialist sympathizer or a right-wing extremist. All you care about is winning. That's what sports is about, it's entertainment. Would you refuse to watch a movie if the director said he had fascist views? Sports is entertainment, deal with it. I understand that it's hard to separate politics from most things in life, I'm just saying that people should thrive for it. Obviously that would only happen in an ideal world. Following entertainment and playing sports is absolutely different. I do boycott stuff from my political beliefs and plenty of others do as well. I'd guess you didn't agree with the criminals we had at our team couple of years back and boycotted our games? Come on, double standards. Double standards, that's f***ing cheap. Why? You disagree?

Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. FWIW I think Di Canio should have a look at himself if he supports the belief and firm stance that Benito Mussolini apparently had... The opportunist that he was and the left-wing to right-wing switch is really a firm stand. The man clearly knows nothing about his supposed beliefs and should have a look into history books. We seriously need to thrive for football free from politics, it's beyond ridiculous at times. Di Canio is an ignorant person, but I can bet my house that this man will be as happy as ever if Di Canio wins them a trophy ( won't happen ). I'd also like to thank Cajun and TT for getting me to see the great enjoyment that this is. Di Canio was the one that brought his political beliefs into football, not the other way round. His actions while at Lazio were a disgrace and he was rightly banned for bringing the game into disrepute. Also you can't sperate politics from most things in life, football isn't a exception. First of all, him bringing it in or not, my point is that people is caring more about his political views than his managerial abilities. As for separating politics from most things in life you've must never have played any sports. When you walk into the pitch, you don't care if the other man is a socialist sympathizer or a right-wing extremist. All you care about is winning. That's what sports is about, it's entertainment. Would you refuse to watch a movie if the director said he had fascist views? Sports is entertainment, deal with it. I understand that it's hard to separate politics from most things in life, I'm just saying that people should thrive for it. Obviously that would only happen in an ideal world. Eh? Football and politics are intrinsically linked. Historically, yes absolutely. But it's sickening. And I for one was hoping that we'd seen the end of that link with football becoming a global sport. Disagree with that, I think it would be very bland. You know the type of person who follows Chelsea, you know the type of person that follows Liverpool, a region's politics is integral to its identity Please enlighten me, don't really get what you mean? (serious question).

Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. FWIW I think Di Canio should have a look at himself if he supports the belief and firm stance that Benito Mussolini apparently had... The opportunist that he was and the left-wing to right-wing switch is really a firm stand. The man clearly knows nothing about his supposed beliefs and should have a look into history books. We seriously need to thrive for football free from politics, it's beyond ridiculous at times. Di Canio is an ignorant person, but I can bet my house that this man will be as happy as ever if Di Canio wins them a trophy ( won't happen ). I'd also like to thank Cajun and TT for getting me to see the great enjoyment that this is. Di Canio was the one that brought his political beliefs into football, not the other way round. His actions while at Lazio were a disgrace and he was rightly banned for bringing the game into disrepute. Also you can't sperate politics from most things in life, football isn't a exception. First of all, him bringing it in or not, my point is that people is caring more about his political views than his managerial abilities. As for separating politics from most things in life you've must never have played any sports. When you walk into the pitch, you don't care if the other man is a socialist sympathizer or a right-wing extremist. All you care about is winning. That's what sports is about, it's entertainment. Would you refuse to watch a movie if the director said he had fascist views? Sports is entertainment, deal with it. I understand that it's hard to separate politics from most things in life, I'm just saying that people should thrive for it. Obviously that would only happen in an ideal world. Eh? Football and politics are intrinsically linked. It really shouldn't though. Football is about entertainment, enjoyment, it's not about politics.