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Flip

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  1. Be lovely if he got some sort os suspension or some sort of action taken against him. Fucking knobhead. I love his nothing worth knowing can be taught, well that's probably cause no one can teach you shit thug. Back to the cell man, break is over.
  2. Real -1 + Dortmund = 3.1 times the money or something. Definitely worth a tenner.
  3. Flip

    sunderland

    I keep thinking what values they gave him. Either way he has abandoned them if his press conference is anything to go by
  4. YOu can't scare us with all these foreign sounding names. I lol'd.
  5. I read that with somehow thinking it was directed at jotenko.
  6. While I can hardly deny you're better than us, it should be said we were missing quite literally an entire team for the first game, and still a fuckload of players for the 2nd. Think it'd be a close game nowadays. What's in my opinion easily underestimated is how the bug clubs from smaller competitions like Portugal or Holland can concentrate on their European campaign and still remain competitive domestically. In the bigger leagues, you can hardly afford to play less than at full strength, so these squads play many more high level games. To say a team like Benfica or Ajax would automatically be a top 5 side in the Premiership by virtue of their domestic dominance (even that is questionable in all honesty in both cases mentioned) or their results in Europe is a bit naive really. So, if we can win to arsenal, liverpool, and draw in old trafford, do you think we couldnt beat teams like west broom, swansea etc... lol ?? I cant say we could win regulary against united, city, etc... but against the other small clubs ?? I dont agree with you in that point... I think I've made my point clear. I'm from Holland, and I know first hand a team like Ajax can beat Man City in a single match, or maybe even in a knockout situation in Europe, but they would never be able to seriously compete with them in the Premiership because they wouldn't be able to rest players, or play at 50% in the second half the weekend before because they're already 3-0 up at half time against some no mark Eredivisie team. It's just not the same thing. But seeing as you seem so extremely convinced you would easily compete for the top 4 in the Premiership, you must be all but certain that you will beat Newcastle in this upcoming tie. We are just a lower table Premiership side after all..? just one point: Dont compare top portuguese teams with top dutch teams. Porto and Benfica are much better than ajax or psv, sorry. Rightio.. I also notice you have conveniently ignored my question about how confident you are about beating NUFC? Can I take it you don't want to go on record as saying you are as supremely confident as your arrogant behaviour suggests? I actually believe you are wrong. Benfica would definitely be a top 6 side in our league. I'd rank them above us and Liverpool at the moment. And fwiw, definitely don't compare dutch teams to portuguese teams as the portuguese league is far superior than the dutch league at the moment. I don't care how much you want to turn and twist, Benfica is a better team than Ajax and would definitely compete for a top 4 spot in our league. I'm not saying htey'd be a top 4 team, but they'd definitely be among the top 6 teams based on quality. This is however irrelevant to our game as exactly like you said any team can beat any team in a knockout situation, yet you wnt him to go on record saying that they will definitely beat us? pathetic. I fail to see how you can say Benfica would definitely be a top 6 side in our league if you are willing to concede that results in a knockout competition are not very representative of a team's strength. They've not even been a dominant force in their own league over the last decade. What I do know is Benfica's team looks good on paper, certainly, and they appear to be doing well this season (can't say I follow the Portuguese league intensively however). I respect them as a very tough challenge for NUFC to overcome, possibly too strong. But I really fail to see what Pardew has said that is so condescending about Benfica being able to challenge in the top 8/10 of the Premiership, if indeed he said it at all. I haven't read upon what Pardew said earlier. I say that because Benfica has been playing very good football, have very good players and have been playing well in Europe all season. They were really unlucky to go out in the group stages as they drew a first game to Celtic and then lost to Barcelona and Spartak Moscow in a freezing stadium. Saying they'd definitely be a top 6 team might be an exageration as they might get massive injuries. But Benfica is a huge club historically, and have a good youth system and good scouting network. Had they been in the PL they'd had the money to keep hold of many players tbf. What I mean is that I definitely believe them from what I've seen to be a better team than us and Liverpool hence the top six. Everything could happen though and you don't know how they'd perform at Stoke on a cold monday night. It's all irrelevant though I just find the portuguese league superior to the dutch
  7. I agree with the first part. I'm pretty sure Pardew is sitting right now going over his plan to go out for the 0-0 draw. Fearing Benfica on the otherhand, I actually fear them like I'd fear any team away at this stage of the competition.
  8. While I can hardly deny you're better than us, it should be said we were missing quite literally an entire team for the first game, and still a fuckload of players for the 2nd. Think it'd be a close game nowadays. What's in my opinion easily underestimated is how the bug clubs from smaller competitions like Portugal or Holland can concentrate on their European campaign and still remain competitive domestically. In the bigger leagues, you can hardly afford to play less than at full strength, so these squads play many more high level games. To say a team like Benfica or Ajax would automatically be a top 5 side in the Premiership by virtue of their domestic dominance (even that is questionable in all honesty in both cases mentioned) or their results in Europe is a bit naive really. So, if we can win to arsenal, liverpool, and draw in old trafford, do you think we couldnt beat teams like west broom, swansea etc... lol ?? I cant say we could win regulary against united, city, etc... but against the other small clubs ?? I dont agree with you in that point... I think I've made my point clear. I'm from Holland, and I know first hand a team like Ajax can beat Man City in a single match, or maybe even in a knockout situation in Europe, but they would never be able to seriously compete with them in the Premiership because they wouldn't be able to rest players, or play at 50% in the second half the weekend before because they're already 3-0 up at half time against some no mark Eredivisie team. It's just not the same thing. But seeing as you seem so extremely convinced you would easily compete for the top 4 in the Premiership, you must be all but certain that you will beat Newcastle in this upcoming tie. We are just a lower table Premiership side after all..? just one point: Dont compare top portuguese teams with top dutch teams. Porto and Benfica are much better than ajax or psv, sorry. Rightio.. I also notice you have conveniently ignored my question about how confident you are about beating NUFC? Can I take it you don't want to go on record as saying you are as supremely confident as your arrogant behaviour suggests? I actually believe you are wrong. Benfica would definitely be a top 6 side in our league. I'd rank them above us and Liverpool at the moment. And fwiw, definitely don't compare dutch teams to portuguese teams as the portuguese league is far superior than the dutch league at the moment. I don't care how much you want to turn and twist, Benfica is a better team than Ajax and would definitely compete for a top 4 spot in our league. I'm not saying htey'd be a top 4 team, but they'd definitely be among the top 6 teams based on quality. This is however irrelevant to our game as exactly like you said any team can beat any team in a knockout situation, yet you wnt him to go on record saying that they will definitely beat us? pathetic.
  9. Flip

    sunderland

    Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. What is a football club? What is politics? I've explained the reasoning behind this. A football club is driven like it's a company and not a political party. No one cares, if you are black, white, olive, pale, socialist, conservative, communist when it comes down to football. It's not the 50's or 60's anymore. I'm aware that there is politics in terms of company politics or what you want to call it, but that isn't the same typ of politics being discussed here. What is being discussed here is that a man who has a political view that hasn't interefered with his job is being considered as a disgrace to football. I think it's rather more a disgrace that they have signed a league one manager who clearly has had tons of problems at past clubs. But has he let his fascist view get in the way of his job as a football manager? I can't find any evidence of that. I'm not defending Di Canio, he should know more as an human being. But claiming he's a disgrace while we as a club have signed some thugs in the past and gotten away with it. Come sunday and they beat Chelsea no one is going to care if he's a fascist or not. Football is as fickle of a game as politics and it's pathetic at times. That's a massive assumption. Core beliefs influence everything we do and say, all the time, whether we're at work or not. No, a massive assumption is to suggest that his belief has any effect/impact on the world and the way we live. People need to try and get a larger perspective of things. You have made a massive assumption stating that his beliefs haven't interfered with his job, I'm saying that as human beings our core beliefs interfere with everything we do, at all times. I'd be interested to see you try and deny that. You've also falsely attributed an assumption to me. Correct, I'm not denying that though, because as of now Di Canio hasn't let his views interfere with his job. I don't care how much you want it to be true, but as of now you are talking utter bullshit and hypothetically. Has Di Canio fired all his players that do interfere with his supposed race policy? Has Di Canio done this at Swindon? Has Di Canio ever talked badly about a race? Has Di Canio by calling himself a fascist ever treated people worse at football clubs because they didn't agree with his views? After all the italian fascism wasn't an anti-semitic movement until they found an ally in Germany. Mussolini was and will be forever known as an opportunist. I doubt the man himself had any clear political views and rather only followed what he thought would help him consolidate his powers. I'd suggest some to read upon it before giving their opinions on matter they obviously know very little about. Di Canio for me is the same. He does what other people wants him to do, he's a puppet. I'm not questioning that his views are utter fucking ridiculous, I just don't agree with the witchhunt. I rather he failed for footballing reasons at that vile club than for people disagreeing with political views that he himself and the rest of the journalists in the UK seem to know very little about.
  10. That ball was class. Dani Alves could do couple of those for the national team. Been shit for the last three games with Brazil...
  11. Flip

    sunderland

    Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. What is a football club? What is politics? I've explained the reasoning behind this. A football club is driven like it's a company and not a political party. No one cares, if you are black, white, olive, pale, socialist, conservative, communist when it comes down to football. It's not the 50's or 60's anymore. I'm aware that there is politics in terms of company politics or what you want to call it, but that isn't the same typ of politics being discussed here. What is being discussed here is that a man who has a political view that hasn't interefered with his job is being considered as a disgrace to football. I think it's rather more a disgrace that they have signed a league one manager who clearly has had tons of problems at past clubs. But has he let his fascist view get in the way of his job as a football manager? I can't find any evidence of that. I'm not defending Di Canio, he should know more as an human being. But claiming he's a disgrace while we as a club have signed some thugs in the past and gotten away with it. Come sunday and they beat Chelsea no one is going to care if he's a fascist or not. Football is as fickle of a game as politics and it's pathetic at times. That's a massive assumption. Core beliefs influence everything we do and say, all the time, whether we're at work or not. No, a massive assumption is to suggest that his belief has any effect/impact on the world and the way we live. People need to try and get a larger perspective of things. we have seen people comparing fascism to new labour on RTG (and thats in all seriousness), defending his salute and making excuses for his beliefs, so yes, I'd say his beliefs have that sort of effect. I fear itr may be you that needs the larger perspective. nowhere near the level it's now at. Pathetic. It's the internet man. Are you seriously telling me to get a wider perspective on how the world works by looking on RTG? Get the fuck out of here man If you live through the internet fair enough, if you haven't seen the world from other perspective than fair enough, but don't tell me you've been to places and seen stuff and can compare that to what a bunch of kids are saying on RTG. Would you start ignoring your best friend if he one day said he sympathized with some facist ideas? Their race policy not being one of them?
  12. Flip

    sunderland

    Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. What is a football club? What is politics? I've explained the reasoning behind this. A football club is driven like it's a company and not a political party. No one cares, if you are black, white, olive, pale, socialist, conservative, communist when it comes down to football. It's not the 50's or 60's anymore. I'm aware that there is politics in terms of company politics or what you want to call it, but that isn't the same typ of politics being discussed here. What is being discussed here is that a man who has a political view that hasn't interefered with his job is being considered as a disgrace to football. I think it's rather more a disgrace that they have signed a league one manager who clearly has had tons of problems at past clubs. But has he let his fascist view get in the way of his job as a football manager? I can't find any evidence of that. I'm not defending Di Canio, he should know more as an human being. But claiming he's a disgrace while we as a club have signed some thugs in the past and gotten away with it. Come sunday and they beat Chelsea no one is going to care if he's a fascist or not. Football is as fickle of a game as politics and it's pathetic at times. That's a massive assumption. Core beliefs influence everything we do and say, all the time, whether we're at work or not. No, a massive assumption is to suggest that his belief has any effect/impact on the world and the way we live. People need to try and get a larger perspective of things.
  13. Don't think you can blame Buffon for that; mental deviation in the air. Didn't look like it at first though.
  14. Flip

    sunderland

    I think it's quite clear from this thread that among our own ranks we've got a fair few nuggets who would have defended this appointment, had it been us who'd made it. There is a difference though in people defending the appointment and people defending the man and what he stands for. A lot of mackems seem to be defending the latter which is just f***ing weird. Ultimately if he does well at the club and keeps his personal views private this will all be forgotten about by next season imo. He's just a daft bloke with silly opinions, not a tyrant.
  15. Flip

    sunderland

    I think it's quite clear from this thread that among our own ranks we've got a fair few nuggets who would have defended this appointment, had it been us who'd made it. Honestly? If you can redirect me to those who have suggested this then fair enough, but I don't believe for a second you will. No one is defending the appointment, I think a vast majority if not 99% of this thread all find it hilarious that they've gone for him and expect him to fail miserably. What other including me have suggested is that his political views have been blown up out of proportion and people are getting way to sensitive. (just for the hyperbole sake we shouldn't allow Mike in here, he is Obama's brother and the US is known for going against human rights on a fair amount of occasions) Some people need to visit the world a bit, see how it works. Life is rougher than a mans view on some ideology. He isn't criminal, he's just a crazy ignorant man or a crazy exhibionist who doesn't know what he says. To call people nuggets for having a broader perspective on the world and voicing their opinion is exactly what a fascist would do btw. Let him fail, let us laugh at him for failing and the mackems for appointing him. But let's not pretend like that if he had been here and succeeded we would still not be supporting our club. All this journalism and going back to his views is only causing more pressure on them, but let's not act like we are the worlds most perfect club in sense of signing people who represent our club. EDIT: No one is defending what he stands for, many are just questioning the importance relative to his job. Some are labelling him like he's some sort of criminal ffs.
  16. Flip

    sunderland

    He sounds like a more controversial version of Souness when you put it that way. Basically Souness. With no top flight experience. And less pedigree. And a Nazi. You went to Harvard, you know it better than that.
  17. Flip

    sunderland

    Lets get back at laughing at them for hiring a league one manager
  18. 10-16ºC, expecting some rain this week. Hopefully not much. Aye you are expecting some goalrain from Cisse. It's going to pour on you
  19. Quite a trip, that have a cracking time That's just a weird route
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