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Shut up, ours are clear and obvious rugby tackles, yours was a debatable tickle. Nah, debatable. I mean if I don't see it as a pen, then clearly it's debatable.

VAR guys are meant to tell the ref after they look at it They've looked at both England's appeals and told the ref it's all good, for some reason The first one (first half) is ridiculous, it's a stonewall penalty. The second one, if you look at the replay, Kane drags the guy over him.

He really did. But he should definitely have had a penalty in the first half.

Ah, the joy of seeing you lot complain about the VAR now.

Kane pulling the tunisians lads arm making it look like he was being strangled

Weapons-grade horse s*** in the main. Oh do f*** off and get a life you sad sack. People have different opinions, get over it. Not sure why you're laughing. It's true. Very true. The TRUTH.

My fellow-countryman is. He needs to go to Specsavers. He's probably seen it, but just refused to give it after yesterday. He was told to completely ignore every situation by the Brazilian federation because of what happened last night.

My fellow-countryman is.

Brazilian VAR ref taking the piss after yesterday. Won't give you shit tonight.

Very clear penalty that. Doesn't need VAR.

STFU Motherfucker you of all people can't say shit about my decision.

That goes for every decision in sport... Not necessarily. There's a line where these things become clear, like. Yesterday's push wasn't in that realm. It could have been given and there'd have been no big complaint from me, but it was the ref's decision to make, not VAR's to correct one way or another. k

Really is. Never a yellow.

It's insane that someone would do something like that. How can you refuse to come on as a sub in a World Cup?

Panama are exactly as I imagined. Ruthless in tackling, but not much going forward. Like Honduras used to be. Belgium are going to win this comfortably in the end.

2,000. Jesus.

Excited for Belgium now. Think we might get our second trashing of the world cup.

That goes for every decision in sport...

Thanks mandoon. Sent him a clip via PM, he started talking about diving instead after that. Bit drunk probably.

Thought Spain and Peru have been excellent as well.

Do that. I'll make sure to send you PMs updating you instead

Despite losing I feel like Germany has the best chance of all the favourites to qualify. Sweden and South Korea are two extremely poor teams. Argentina in the biggest kind of trouble.

Really wasn't though. It's your bias talking. Trying to rile me up. Because you're being a massive dick Honest to god, not sure why Wenger said something like that. He's the first one I've seen agree with not the VAR being used. Watched about 20 post-matches. Barely slept this night It's the same type of contact you see at every corner and free kick. His hands are on his back but it's not really a push, Miranda steps forward as much and until that point is also holding onto the striker. If you watch the replay from from the other side with a wide view of the box from ground level this is obvious. I've watched every single one. It's absolutely a push man Are you taking the p*ss? He has fully extended his arms and pushed Miranda right before the ball gets there. There's a few when the ball is whipped in, in which Miranda clearly fall forward with this upperbody. This is why players throw themselves to the ground and cry for 50minutes. If he had done that, the foul would've been given. I'm apparently supposed to be p*ssed at the VAR team now and not the ref itself, but can't the ref review it himself if he's unsure to make his own mind up? He puts his hand on his back but it's not a push. He steps forward himself due to his awful positioning and being off balance. All the striker is really doing is trying to release from the hold Miranda has on him. It's weak as p*ss awful defending. Pointless to discuss tbh. Not seen anyone say it's not a push except some of you in here riling me up. The only real argument I've seen against it being allowed is that ''it happens all the time''. Well offside goals, diving and dumb fouls inside the pk area happens all the time as well, but that's what VAR is supposed to be able to correct. It's hardly a push. He's releasing himself from the hold Miranda has on him as they are grappling in the box. It looks like a bad push because he steps forward as he's off balance already but that's not really the case. I agree. Changed my mind. Seen it again. Piss poor defending, there's absolutely no push in play. Clattenburg which most in here consider the best ref in the world must see the same replay I saw now, would change his mind to a no foul as well.