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Ah right, just duff information off wikipedia. I wouldn't be surprised if they moved their games with Rangers to Hampden for the new Glasgow derby. They play at Hampden. Queen of the South in Dumfries play at Palmerston Park.

Only way you could combine the two league systems is if you changed the lower leagues so that it was regionalised higher up and you had say 4 regions. South, Midlands, North and Scotland. Then the Scottish teams could feed in that way. Hearts and a few other clubs would do fairly well considering their fanbase when they eventually got promoted. As others have said though, won't and shouldnt happen.

Aye, Sky trying to be so clever that they've even included a 2nd Division team in the list. Every hour they also say that Berwick have a capacity of 4100 with less than a quarter seats, despite showing on the screen 1300 seats, more than a quarter.

What, 2 weeks before the start of the season? With a shit manager and players who aren't even a 'team' yet? Don't get me wrong, they would be one of the favorites, but it isn't a given they would win the league.

Nobody cares about the small clubs though. It's all about the SPL, and the TV deal they have with Sky could be in jeopardy if Rangers and Celtic aren't in the top flight together after next season. Putting Rangers in Division 1 means they're all but guaranteed promotion to the SPL and then you've got the Old Firm together to keep Sky happy. It would be a disgrace if they got into SFL1, but it isn't guaranteed they would get promotion. They've not got many players signed up at the moment and won't exactly have much money to improve the squad. A club like Falkirk or Dunfermline could top that league.

Surprised the SPL have actually voted today. That Clyde statement shows how morally corrupt Scottish football now is. Sickening. Still not heard anything from Berwick. The chairman was sunning it up in France yesterday and sent the ex-manager, of all people, to the meeting.

Prediction for today, the SPL clubs will postpone their vote until after the SFL one. In that situation the SFL should say they won't vote until the SPL do. This is an SPL problem and the SFL shouldn't back down to bullies trying to blackmail them.

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=224470 Even the Rangers fans see it for what it is.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/108457-spl-threaten-breakaway-league-if-sfl-clubs-do-not-agree-to-rangers-plans/ An absolutely disgusting development if true. It's basically blackmail!

Pure arrogance by the SPL!

They're an utter shambles. I'm starting to think they would be better off just totally finishing and starting again non-league until they sort themselves out. Anyway, currently to get into the SFL you need to have three years of accounts to show. Another option is to murder another club.

It would be good if it wasn't for the break in the stripes at the sponsor bit and the stupid spikes. Also prefer when the badge is properly embroided on rather than sort of a patch with the badge on sewed on.

When Gretna went bust, the SFL clubs voted on their replacement. I don't see why this should be any different. Can't see as many clubs as usual applying though considering their chances against the new Rangers. Usually Gala, Cove, Spartans, Edinburgh City and Preston Athletic apply. Spartans don't have many friends in the SFL.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised SPL (Self-Preservation League) teams have decided to go down this route. A victory for the fans and sporting integrity really. However, parachuting a brand new club into Division 1 will be an equally as big a disgrace as had they been let into the SPL. Why should clubs like Berwick live within their means, contest without cheating or running themselves into the ground, and be leagues below a new team who only exist because their previous old-co cheated, built up debt and ran them into the ground.

A 'Glasgow Cup' would be a shambles if Rangers were a 3rd Division team. They'd just get destroyed. If it was involving other Glasgow teams, Partick would probably end up in the final with Celtic anyway.

That would be terrible as well imo. It's just SPL style self preservation further down the leagues so that clubs like Partick can get a slice of the pie. Scottish football needs a proper pyrimid system like England. Rangers are a new club now, they should start where all new clubs do, at the bottom.

I know. Just mentioning it has happened within Scotland.

Rangers hardly making more friends, not that they had many in the first place. This kind of stuff has happened in Scotland before though. Airdrie United buying Cydebank after Airdrionians went bust, and someone buying Meadowbank Thistle with the sole purpose of moving them to Livingston.

The Rangers v Berwick Rangers last game of the season.

Would have to be sorted by the release of the fixtures anyway, would it not?

Are you sure those clubs would vote against? I'd like to think so, but think you're being a bit optimistic. If it goes down to a vote for the 3rd Division, they will get in no bother. Berwick chairman is a Rangers fan for a start and I can imagine a few more in boardrooms around Scotland. Spartans are the only other realistic application and they don't have too many friends around the SFL.

Group stage. Arsenal have to do a qualifier now.

League position obviously isn't everything here. It's only correct that the champions defend their trophy. That's an achievement, finishing 4th shouldn't give you the right to anything. I'm far more comfortable with Chelsea being in there next year than Man Utd, Arsenal and defiantly Spurs.

So you pick someone who finishes 4, third of the losers to play in the Champions League over someone who are the champions of the Champions League. Bizarre!

NUFC.com are guilty of the SMS with regular references to "message board morons". Aye, the arrogance. A bit like some journo's when blogs and things like twitter came along. Everyone has an opinion that can be published now and they hate it. Still think they're a cut above.