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but they know by just looking at just one game coz they are bloody experts!

Based on what I saw today (which admittedly is not a fair assessment), I'd take RVN over Kuyt anyday.

I have not written any article (though I promised HTT one), but would be interested to contribute more academic writings, since I'm doing a postgrad in Sports Law. Will pick controversial areas so they will be interesting. Might be good for the site to get some academic write ups to balance against the juicy rumours. Will write one soon and if people find it good, will continue throughout next year.

Trust me, you're not. You're a flaming disgrace, leave this forum at once. Disgusted. Words cannot describe my utter contempt for anything that isn't pure optimism, in a bag... My humblest apologies bluebigrazz.gif

I dont think Terry is saying he is not going to give Roeder a chance or not be supportive of him and the team. He just has his reservations (as do I) and he is entitled to that opinion.

First of all, I'm glad you've chucked the "he sucks in training" hypothesis into the dustbin where it deserves to be. 2nd, in case u have not realized, we fundamentally disagree on point 8. U feel he has been poor and a few of us think he has done ok and has justified his place at least to be on the bench, moreover 90 minutes spread over 6 games in bits and pieces is not sufficient to fully appraise a player. Until he gets a reasonable run in the team, we'll never know what he can/cannot do. If we gave loads of opportunities to Shola even when he was horrible, why cant we give 10% of that amount of chances to Luque to prove himself especially as we know that he had 3 good seasons in Depor before coming over (not base on highlight reel mind you)? Alternatively we can chuck him now for a big loss, buy and expensive player to partner Owen upfront, then you and NE5 can say that the board is just showing 'ambition' despite the fact that we will be taking another giant stride towards financial oblivion.

Sorry I have lost interest discussing with you. Oh, thats a shame, because your absolutely groundless statement about why i didn't like Luque, in total disregard for the numerous reasons i had already given, made me REALLY interested in discussing stuff with you. I doubt you've even seen him play for us in the flesh, but you seem qualified to speak about the way he plays. Let me guess, you think you can get as good an idea from the TV? Wrong. I'll speak up for Delima coz he has said it before. Yes you are wrong! He has watched Luque in St James and so have others (wullie, a few others and me included). Stop this patronizing attitude that if others disagree with you they must have either watched the game on tv or based their opinion on the "famous showreel". Accept that others watching the same games you do (yes live in the flesh) can come to different conclusions. So much for willing to accept that your argument are no more or less valid than others' :roll:

Given what we've seen of him on the field of play it's a credible idea that he shows a lack of application behind the scenes. Since you and others dismiss the idea so easily I'll ask the question again that I've asked before. Why do you believe Roeder is not selecting Luque if he as good as you and others claim he is? Cheers We've been through this havent we HTL? When u asked the last time I said it could be because Roeder wanted to save him for next season and give him a full preseason to adapt to the EPL. I also said that, that theory was more supportive of our own player instead of assuming the worst "he must be crap in training" theory that you come out with, despite Roeder himself saying numerous times that Luque has trained well. Your response if I remember correctly was that you dont give a crap what my theory was or whether it was more supportive, and here you are again asking the same question and pretending like nobody has answered you. Not sure why I bother replying to your posts, tbh, so this is the last time. Your deliberate misrepresentation by ignoring the context of my reply to your earlier post on this does you no favours. The link to it is below to refresh your memory. The reason I said I don't care whether your idea is *better* ( note the word 'better', not 'crap' ) is because I'm more interested in how players perform for the team than whether an idea is better or not. Think about it. http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,19142.msg356448.html#msg356448 It still makes no sense to save a fit, so-called 'top' player for next season when the alternatives are proven to be average players at best. Big deal so you didnt use the word crap, I'm eternally grateful :roll: The point is you asked for other reasons on why Roeder could be leaving Luque out, I and a few others gave you plausible reasons and now here you are asking again as if no answers were given to your super question. Whats more you have not explained how your theory that he sucks in training can be reconciled with Roeder's many interviews that he has done well. Instead you just paddle the idea incessantly to justify your position on Luque. Roeder was tasked with fixing the massive mistakes of Souness - who certain people on this Board wanted to stay!!! - and he did so very well. In doing so, he largely overlooked Luque. That was clearly his choice, and bearing in mind what he achieved, we have to support him in that. We don't know why Luque isn't getting played. None of us do. But based on what we've seen on the pitch, he's not particularly been worth playing any further. He hasn't been a good buy, tough shit. Lets move on and get someone on with the DESIRE to play, as well as aibility. Someone like BEllamy......oh, dear..... We can support Roeder without necessarily thinking that all his decisions were correct. I think his refusal to give Luque a chance is wrong and his decision not to put Luque on the bench aginst Brums when we absolutely needed to win was horrible and Souness like . The only part I agree with your post is the Bellamy bit.

Given what we've seen of him on the field of play it's a credible idea that he shows a lack of application behind the scenes. Since you and others dismiss the idea so easily I'll ask the question again that I've asked before. Why do you believe Roeder is not selecting Luque if he as good as you and others claim he is? Cheers We've been through this havent we HTL? When u asked the last time I said it could be because Roeder wanted to save him for next season and give him a full preseason to adapt to the EPL. I also said that, that theory was more supportive of our own player instead of assuming the worst "he must be crap in training" theory that you come out with, despite Roeder himself saying numerous times that Luque has trained well. Your response if I remember correctly was that you dont give a crap what my theory was or whether it was more supportive, and here you are again asking the same question and pretending like nobody has answered you. Not sure why I bother replying to your posts, tbh, so this is the last time. Your deliberate misrepresentation by ignoring the context of my reply to your earlier post on this does you no favours. The link to it is below to refresh your memory. The reason I said I don't care whether your idea is *better* ( note the word 'better', not 'crap' ) is because I'm more interested in how players perform for the team than whether an idea is better or not. Think about it. http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,19142.msg356448.html#msg356448 It still makes no sense to save a fit, so-called 'top' player for next season when the alternatives are proven to be average players at best. Big deal so you didnt use the word crap, I'm eternally grateful :roll: The point is you asked for other reasons on why Roeder could be leaving Luque out, I and a few others gave you plausible reasons and now here you are asking again as if no answers were given to your super question. Whats more you have not explained how your theory that he sucks in training can be reconciled with Roeder's many interviews that he has done well. Instead you just paddle the idea incessantly to justify your position on Luque.

Given what we've seen of him on the field of play it's a credible idea that he shows a lack of application behind the scenes. Since you and others dismiss the idea so easily I'll ask the question again that I've asked before. Why do you believe Roeder is not selecting Luque if he as good as you and others claim he is? Cheers We've been through this havent we HTL? When u asked the last time I said it could be because Roeder wanted to save him for next season and give him a full preseason to adapt to the EPL. I also said that, that theory was more supportive of our own player instead of assuming the worst "he must be crap in training" theory that you come out with, despite Roeder himself saying numerous times that Luque has trained well. Your response if I remember correctly was that you dont give a crap what my theory was or whether it was more supportive, and here you are again asking the same question and pretending like nobody has answered you. P/S: I think Verlaine's theory has some merit too but I'm sure you're just going to dismiss it as crap, so why bother asking when you're not willing to listen to answers.

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The same basis that Chopra, Ameobi (even before his small scoring patch) and Pattison get their chances week in week out. Luque has had approx 90 mins under Roeder, thats not nearly enough to make a definitive judgement either way, although his form for Depor indicates that he is better than Ameobi and Chopra combined. The thing is we'll never know for sure till we give a run of a few games (and not just for the last 5 mins of a game that has already been won/lost).

By that you mean the ex players' group? bluebigeek.gif

He took his goal well but on every other occasion shinned the ball away, fell over or was brushed off the ball with ease. A bit like every time he's played really. Is that really true Matt, not an exaggeration? coz others seems to say that he did quite well. I dont know coz I didnt see the match, so I'll leave it to the rest to confirm your opinion

He did well, took his goal well, I think he can be a hit here next season Glad we're on the same side, now I'm sure I'll get the http link bluewink.gif But like nufc16 said, based on what Roeder has done so far, looks fairly sure that we'll offload him to the first bidder on a cheap :mad:

By that, u mean that he played poorly barring the goal?

No doubt the Luque knockers will say its only a testimonial :roll: But IMO, u can only eat whats in front of you. Anyway how was his overall play?

Shit just realized, this mean we get Butt back!!! Flog him to Reading, tell them he is an ex Manc, ex England international and that Pele thought he was the best player in the last World Cup, just ommit the last few years of his career.

I agree mate, sorry I think u'v been had. Genuine signed jerseys from reputable sellers usually go for 200-300 quid. I say get a refund and report the seller to ebay or to paypal (assuming u paid via paypal), oh and dont forget to leave some nasty remarks on his feedback. Ebay does noit need sellers like this guy. Either that or just frame it up anyway and pretend that its real, afterall not many of your friend will be able to tell the diff.

What does "items to be signed were to be personalised" means? I dont get the personalized bit?