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6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

How long is left on his contract, I doubt we are getting him for that.  

Contracted until 2025

Just now, The College Dropout said:

I’m not saying that he’s not worth signing. People have posted his PL goals and assists record vs his peers. His is as good or better. You could interpret that, as he is as good as them or better. When you take his overall game, I don’t think he is. 

On that i think we can agree.  Ultimately what we are lacking from our wide forwards is goals and assists - i think Barnes could add both.  Ultimately we are still fishing in a different pond from Man City, Arsenal et al

Colwill is very, very good

9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Well some people are implying that he is because they think the only reason others weren’t interested is because they already have a player of that calibre. 
 

Doubts they could do it in the PL. If Bruno played for Leicester he would be sold for more than Maddison. 
 

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The point I’m trying to make is that Barnes does compare well to some of the best wingers or attacking midfielders  in the league when you just look at goals. You can add Mount, Richarlison, Raphinha, JM to that. He’s going for less money than them all, with a good contract position. He’s also had less international recognition. Why is that? 
 

- more 1 dimensional style of play

- average all round game and wider influence

- less effective against a low block

- positionally/tactically inflexible 

- doubts about him off the ball

 

And these are the same reasons some are sceptical of the transfer. He’s an average football player but a good goalscorer. 
 

i think he starts for us and could score a lot of goals and be a massive success for us. But there’s valid reasons for ppl being sceptical - he’s not a great footballer.  

There's an element of that of course, but also other teams have a different vision for what sort of player will work in their team.  To say a player isnt worth signing because another team doesnt want him is to take a very basic view of football at this level

Just now, Choppy Chop Chop said:

Can you tell me any successful team that does not apply to 

Racist

1 minute ago, Choppy Chop Chop said:

If hes implying all Spanish players are pricks then yes it is 

I think implying that tactical fouls to break up play has been a common theme in recent years in Spanish football is a racist comment is a bit of a stretch personally

2 minutes ago, Choppy Chop Chop said:

 

Borderline racist comment. 

Is it? 

10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Barnes has comparable ‘stats’ to Bukayo Saka, Jack Grealish, Rashford etc.  

 

Why do we think other top 6 clubs aren’t in for him at £35m?

Why weren't any of the top six in for Bruno, Isak or Botman? 

It seems thay we are targeting players on relatively low wages - Barnes rather than Maddison, Tonali rather than Barella etc.  IMO its a sensible tactic - the alternative is you quickly end up like man utd or chelsea where everyone that signs expects 200k+ a week.  Building slowly and deliberatley isnt just about transfer fees

Considering a striker getting into double figures in a relegated team is always seen as having had a good season, i would say 13 from the wing is pretty remarkable.

Hasn't every single imminent signing story from the Telegraph so far this summer turned out to be nonsense?  Why are we all believing this one? 

3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Liverpool seem pretty well stocked in that area with Salah and now Szoboszlai. They need to strengthen other areas too

And surely Chelsea dont need another wide forward?!

Ouch

3 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Smith Rowe looks the best player on the pitch 

Always seems to hold onto the ball too long.  I like the look of that Gloukh kid though, can see why there is so much interest in him

didnt look like a pen

19 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

 

This comes up from time to time and yet I've never read anything on FFP that indicates the payment terms (e.g. paid up front vs. in installments) has any bearing on how it would be calculated. You can still amortize the fee over the length of the contract.

 

The only thing I can think of here is we did not want / could not afford to have a purchase hit our 2022/23 accounting year.

All i can think is that maybe clauses such as extra money fir European qualification, numer of appearances, goals etc aren't counted against  until they are activated, but they also cant be used to force a release clause in a contract

Cannot wait until Sewpa Kev and Bally take jobs in the Saudi League

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Aye. And the 32 year old started 43 games last season.  All 38 league games and 5 cup matches. 
 

Tino isn’t going to accept FA Cup and league cup + starting 5 league games and coming off the bench. And I don’t blame him.   
 

 

We could promise him more game time at RB. But Howe hasn’t struck me as a ‘rotate for the sake of it’ manager unless there’s fitness or injury record concerns.  

How much of that has been not having genuine options to freshen up team though?  It is generaly accepted that Tonali is the longstaff upgrade, and i imagine Longstaff will still get plenty of game time

17 minutes ago, LV said:

I can’t blame him for not wanting to come if it’s true he wants guaranteed playing time. He’s not going to overtake Trippier in the pecking order this season barring a (god forbid) long term injury.

 

 

True enough, but to be second choice for a team playing a lot of matches in the league and Europe he is going to get a lot of game time - there are very few players who start every game.

1 minute ago, joeyt said:

Think we'll sing his name to the tune of Seven Nation Army 

That or SANDRO SANDRO urrgh

Could he potentially play the same role as Burn? 

Here i was thinking that nothing would be more unhinged than the transfer rumours thread...

I blame the thread title for all of this.

21 hours ago, Deuce said:

count as a homegrown?

 

 

 

Assuming he is 18 when we sign him then by the time he is 21 I think that would count as being homegrown.

7 hours ago, Rich said:

 

What a disgusting Tweet.

Ah yes, what an amazing job, to meet West Ham's asking price and still not have their offer accepted.  Bravo!