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I´m disappointed with his start of the season. He hasn´t been good at all. Neither offensively or defensively. I´m not doubting his capacity. But he hasn´t started well (like many others)

And what is this myth that he must have Jonas in front of him? If he played at the right with HBA in front of him. On of our midfielders could fill in, or one of the center backs with a midfielder to drop back. It could be solved.

I´m worried about his injuries. He seems to pick them up very easily

4-3-3 can easily become 4-5-1. personally I'm pleased that we have a go at top teams by playing 2 Dembas

 

Playing 2 strikers doesn't really mean "having a go" though, in the first half i wouldn't really call how we were playing "having a go"

 

We did in the 2nd half sure, but the first half we looked like we came for a 0-0

This. And why are we so concerned to play two strikers up front when it´s clearly so many players is suffering from it?

We can still play the two Dembas, in a 4-3-3/4-5-1. We always plays better in that system.

4-3-3 can easily become 4-5-1. personally I'm pleased that we have a go at top teams by playing 2 Dembas

 

Playing 2 strikers doesn't really mean "having a go" though, in the first half i wouldn't really call how we were playing "having a go"

 

We did in the 2nd half sure, but the first half we looked like we came for a 0-0

 

PArds said we were brave.  I think in formation and personnel we were.  First half we didn't play for 0-0 we just got outplayed by a good team and didn't start too well.

We were not brave and "had a go" in first half. We definitely looked happy to play for a 0-0. I don´t buy that we couldn´t have got a result because Chelsea were so good. We just didn´t play.

We lose a man centrally and are outplayed.

 

4-3-3 is a must against the better teams who are stacked in midfield otherwise we wont hold possession.

Exactly!

But none was better than Stoke (h) and WBA (a)

Nothing funny to read or that it happened. But he got it spot on and it´s exactly how I feel.

We are so unfit it´s just unreal. And that is not just about fitness, also about our accuracy in passing, moment. What the hell are we doing in our pre-seasons?!

It´s a lot of talking about the moment is more important then what formation we are playing. So the question is. Does anyone think that we have good moments with our 4-4-2?

pardew talk about own the midfield to win games. When we play 4-4-2 we don´t do that.

When we play 4-4-2 we play so deep and carefully that when we get the ball we have nothing to threat.

I think one problem is that pardew is obsessed with Ba and that he can´t play wide or anything. Laugh at me or not. I think we should go with one striker.

And that we can´t play 4-3-3 against good teams thats one of the strongest argument. That we in a 4-3-3 can control the other team better.

So many players goes wasted the way we are playing now. I would kill ( ) to no exactly what pardew is thinking and why he is doing what he is doing.

Who's panicking? So tedious reading people who go on like that. People are disappointed and have some concerns = panicking/craving drama/this is the end. Complete nonsense.

 

What concerns? That we're not as good as Chelsea on their own patch?

 

We created a decent amount of chances and didn't give them too many clear cut ones either. On a different day, we could easily have come away with something. What more did you expect?

To give them a fight.

It´s not about the defeat. It´s about how we got beaten. I´m just amazed how content so many are with a defeat.

So many excuses here.

We gave them the victory without a fight. We ended the gave the way we should have started it.

Mole_Toonfan

played good. He´s just not good enough.

Embarrassing to not have striker options on the bench

For everyone that wants to discuss this.

For everyone that dosen´t

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I can agree that this isn´t just a question about systems. But it´s make it easier. In a 4-4-2 we become to static. When we play that we seems more interested to not lose than focusing to win, and that is hurting us badly.

Look at the second half against Chelsea. Ok Chelsea are happy to defend. But what I´m also is seeing is a team that wants something. I didn´t see that in the first half.

Also. I´m worried about this 4-4-2 and Ba. Ba (looking at the situation that should be a goal) seems more focused to be the center of the team and looking after the team. Nothing wrong with a striker that wants to score goals. But great players know when to try and don´t. And this Ba situation I´m starting to be absolutely sure is the reason to this 4-4-2

I just hate...

..when we play a slow, low and static 4-4-2. Ba and Cissé are doing no work and is only getting long balls to handle. They don´t work together at all and the only thing we are doing is to invite pressure. Because when we do get the ball there is no moment and every player that should create is too far the goal.

I just love...

...when every offensive player is moving and every player wants the ball and wants to attack. When Ba and Ben Arfa is coming deeper with Cisse pushing forward. The players are running more. Wants to win the ball and are always focused.

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I think that every time we are playing a 4-4-2 we are never playing good football. Our aim is only to stop the other team to not score, and we are only look s*** scared with the opposite team creating chances.

Every time we play a more 4-3-3 we have more movement. We keep the ball better and start creating. Funnily enough, it´s then we are really stooping the opposite team.

I´m disiponted with this start of the season. I had hoped we would have played better. Now we just look unfit and scared from trying.

Sure we have had a really touch start with playing against good teams. But that doesn´t stop me from thinking this.

Thoughts?

Deserved for West Brom, they looked good.

 

 

4-4-2

 

Ffs.

Well I´m worried about the midfield. And tbh. Anita is probably not a terminator like Tiote.

Titoté

4-4-2

I just hate it when it´s postponed. Longed a whole week ffs

Love when teams just run in behind defence in to the penalty area. Wish we could do that.

Routhledge

not even warned

Atkinson had blow his whistle. I don´t know the rule actually. Can you book someone after the played has stopped?

And Nolan of course

Looking forward to see Swansea.