TRon

It's not a world of difference, it's just a matter of scale. We wouldn't be able to hold onto one of the best players in the world in their position, of course we wouldn't. However Enrique is not one of the best players in the world in his position. He's good, and he's better than average in this league, but he's not in the top 10 left backs in the world. If it's really about the ambition to win things for Enrique, then we can't begrudge him leaving for a club in England, Spain, Italy or Germany who are in the CL, and I wouldn't blame the club for selling him in the Summer either. However if he goes to a club who are only realistically going for a Europa League place like Liverpool or Villa, then it's partly about the money for the player, and completely about the money for the club. I know there are some who would hate him for that, but personally I don't begrudge any player moving for money, 99.9% of us in the same position would do exactly the same and you're kidding yourself if you think differently. In that situation, a club with our resources in one of the best leagues in the world shouldn't really be struggling to keep hold of him if we think he's worth it. Enrique as a player is about at the same level as we should be as a minimum as a club. Very true. We as a club now seem to have set ourselves a wage limit where only other clubs cast offs like Nolan, Butt and Smith will be happy to ply their trade. Any player of significant quality will leave for a club with more ambition. It was understandable to have some wage restrictions but it seems we now class ourselves alongside the likes of Bolton and Wigan when it comes to how much we are willing to pay players.

Don't worry he won't be going anywhere because the big clubs won't want him.

Nolan always gives 100% and his attitude has never been in question on the pitch. However we want to be like his idols Liverpool "a great club" which means we'll no longer require the services of the likes of Nolan who just isn't good enough to be at an ambitious club.

Because Whelan hates Ashley and the idea of selling his one real hope of Premier League survival 10 minutes before the transfer wndow closed would be an utterly mental thing to do? That's sort of my point. Not every owner feels forced to sell just because other clubs start bidding for their best players.

Which begs the question why did Ashley sell him for half that amount to a business rival?

and we can comment on how he likes to spend it extravagantly in public but be a tight b****** when it comes to Newcastle. he's a tight b****** cos he hasn't spent as much as you'd like him to ? He's spent plenty where his priorities lay. Or where he couldn't give a s*** like the odd casino here or there. That's all I'm saying. right i give in you win, he shouldn't have any life, he should just throw all his cash into nufc, if he doesn't he's tight b******. That's just it...he isn't a tight b******. Except when it comes to NUFC. yet the club owes him over 100million pounds ? No one forced him to hand over the money to Shepherd and Hall.

so how come we couldn't buy Charles N'Zogbia from a small town club like Wigan for £12m after selling him for much less to Ashley's biggest rival?

and we can comment on how he likes to spend it extravagantly in public but be a tight b****** when it comes to Newcastle. he's a tight b****** cos he hasn't spent as much as you'd like him to ? He's spent plenty where his priorities lay. Or where he couldn't give a s*** like the odd casino here or there. That's all I'm saying. right i give in you win, he shouldn't have any life, he should just throw all his cash into nufc, if he doesn't he's tight bastard. That's just it...he isn't a tight bastard. Except when it comes to NUFC.

and we can comment on how he likes to spend it extravagantly in public but be a tight b****** when it comes to Newcastle. he's a tight bastard cos he hasn't spent as much as you'd like him to ? He's spent plenty where his priorities lay. Or where he couldn't give a shit like the odd casino here or there. That's all I'm saying.

and we can comment on how he likes to spend it extravagantly in public but be a tight bastard when it comes to Newcastle.

The idea that we wouldn't sell Enrique for less than £25m never mind £12m when his contract is up after next season is so fucking ridiculous that you should feel ashamed to post this garbage.

Because he's the owner of Newcastle United? If he'd rather piss away his considerable spare cash frivolously on some roulette table what does that say about his priorities?

He's so poor he doesn't blink an eye losing a million or so in a casino. God forbid to put that sort of money towards securing crucial playing staff though. maybe it's you fault. instead of that night out you had last week you should have bought more nufc gear. I'm sure I could be persuaded by a good salesman.

He sounds so motivated. I wouldn't be surprised if Ben Arfa starts more games this season tbh.

He's so poor he doesn't blink an eye losing a million or so in a casino. God forbid to put that sort of money towards securing crucial playing staff though.

Enrique won't be going there anyway.

Ashley will never have a better platform to show that he wants to run the club in the right way. The cash injection from the Carroll sale means he won't even have to take daft risks pursuing success like we have previously. We are at a crossroads at then end of this campaign. I would love to say with confidence that I think he'll do the right thing but in all honesty it wouldn't surprise me if he put the club up for sale again in order not to have to take that responsibility.

Yeah. Enrique is a good player and an improved player, but I'm not sure he's good enough for a Champions League club and the Spanish national side. His defending is still a bit hit and miss and he's still prone to giving the ball away in his own half. Jose Enrique's defending is hit and miss? Are we talking about the same bloke? apart from that, if he gives the ball away in his own half now and then it's because he's one of the few players in our squad who are good enough to try and play their way out of defence. No doubt we'll finally recognise this when he's replaced with some left-foot version of Ryan Taylor who shits himself if there's a player within 5 yards.

I wonder if given the choice Man U would go for Baines ahead of Enrique? Baines is fantastic going forward but I would hold that Enrique is the better defender and not far behind in getting forward either.

Like any player of ability Enrique will have ambitions, both personal and with his club. He's been one of the best settled foreign players we've ever had here and if we finished the season fighting for Europe, showed our intent in the transfer market and gave him a contract close to what he could get elsewhere I think he'd want to stay. The only thing we can't do is get his national team to give him a cap, but we could give him hope that next season we'll be a team the rest of Europe can't ignore.

I'm pretty sure that the failure to break into the national squad will have a big bearing on Enrique's future. Players in England tend to get ignored unless they are playing CL football so if Ma U or Liverpool are interested that will be a big lure. Can't see Villa being in the race though, just because they are interested doesn't mean he wants to go there. How we end the season and how we spend the Carroll money will be the deciding factor in keeping him here.

Big test for our club this one. This is not the same situation as Carroll as Jose only has two years of his contract remaining so IMO we won't get daft money bids for him. At most £8-10m and that's being optimistic. In which case we should play hardball and make him see out his contract until we get an offer which suits us. That sort of money will only buy an inferior player.

Bolton have had a good season and under Coyle they aren't an easy team to play against. But this team keeps surprising me so I'm going to believe we can win this by the odd goal.

Pardew mentioned how the plan to counter Birmingham's diagonal crosses worked. While I previously thought he was just a gobshite I'm starting to think he might have more tactical nous than some of us were prepared to concede. The players seem to enjoy his methods and that tells us something. Just need to see how he fares in the transfer market now, otherwise I'm on board.

Mediocre or not it feels great to have guys like Best, Barton, Simpson and the rest who are proud to wear the Newcastle shirt.