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Absolute disgrace. The referee's performance was one of the most shambolic I've ever seen and I can understand Drogba going mad as they were cheated but what sort of example does this set for everyone else. 

Kinnear was on big wages, no way is Ashley going to fork out for them again, going to be a season of Hughton I imagine.

What a complete idiot the NUFC Blog is. YOU CAN'T OWN TWO FOOTBALL CLUBS.

Since when? I think the rules only apply to english clubs not clubs from different countries. Still I'm not claiming he's not an idiot.

Alright then, at least I now know when to be prepared for the first round of "Newcastle takeover talks collapse" stories.

 

I won't believe any of this for a second untill it actually happens. It just seems too suspicious that not a single source from any serious bidder has actually confirmed their interest.

 

Yes, I've turned terminally negative.

Fair enought though, interesting that llambias finally speaks when season ticket renewals are arriving on doorsteps.

Say what you like about Shepherd he always backed his managers, even thouigh it was money we didn't have.

 

 

But if he is purely a figure head for a group who are minted then maybe it could work but if he has all the control himself then he can f*** off.

 

But running day to day and trying to get the finances for the manager i'd be ok with.

 

He's still a f***ing blobby c*** mind.

Did he back his managers or spend money on players he wanted (or who Willy Mckay and the rest of his crony friends told him to get)? Seem to remember quotes from managers that the players we got weren't always who they wanted (e.g. Souness wanted Boa Morte and Anelka and got Owen and Luque)

Whats wrong with him, totally forgot.

Broken metatarsal I think

It's hard for any player to get back to full match fitness after coming back from a long injury but I think it's especially true for players in the middle of the park who are expected to make the team tick. I thought in January he was the one hope for our season but then he got injured and I just wonder whether he's not going to have enough time now to really make an impact.

Given wanted out

 

 

[move]Man City knew this [/move] 

 

 

                       [move][/move]

Berbatov also wanted out...

 

Bellamy wanted out, Man City knew that as well, yet West Ham robbed them blind, £15 million for that old waster.

 

You've also got to remember that as a club we owed a lot more to Given than Spurs did to Berbs or West ham to Bellamy. For all the years of loyal service he'd given to the club he had to be allowed to leave if he wanted to, and therefore to even get £6 million is pretty good.

 

On another point I'm still shocked and disgusted at the number of you who are willing to abuse Given, he is still and always will be a legend in my eyes. He eventually got fed up with the turmoil at the club, but who wouldn't have, I'm amazed he stayed with us as long as he did.

 

Can you explain this please?

 

I mean that given all his years of loyal service he should expect that he will be treated fairly by the club, along the lines that older players who have given long service are often allowed to move clubs for free even if they are still under contract.

 

A service is defined as something that is offered for free. Given was paid a massive wage. He stayed with us for years, but your suggestion of letting your best players go for nothing is ridiculous, should Liverpool let Gerrard go for nothing then?

link?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selfless_service

 

Before you claim it as another service, the service above is obviously the one he was getting at if he feels that we should have let Given go for free.

firstly, i think you need to read that link, don't think its what I'm implying at all.

Secondly, I don't think we should have sold Given for free but his loyalty to the club over many years weakened our bargaining position as it would have been unfair for us to hold city to ransom and possibly scupper a transfer that the player wanted.

Is the fact that they're going to pay out big compensation for Keegan a tacit admission that Keegan was the one who was in the right and they effectively constructively dismissed him?

Given wanted out

 

 

[move]Man City knew this [/move] 

 

 

                       [move][/move]

Berbatov also wanted out...

 

Bellamy wanted out, Man City knew that as well, yet West Ham robbed them blind, £15 million for that old waster.

 

You've also got to remember that as a club we owed a lot more to Given than Spurs did to Berbs or West ham to Bellamy. For all the years of loyal service he'd given to the club he had to be allowed to leave if he wanted to, and therefore to even get £6 million is pretty good.

 

On another point I'm still shocked and disgusted at the number of you who are willing to abuse Given, he is still and always will be a legend in my eyes. He eventually got fed up with the turmoil at the club, but who wouldn't have, I'm amazed he stayed with us as long as he did.

 

Can you explain this please?

I mean that given all his years of loyal service he should expect that he will be treated fairly by the club, along the lines that older players who have given long service are often allowed to move clubs for free even if they are still under contract.

Given wanted out

 

 

[move]Man City knew this [/move] 

 

 

                       [move][/move]

Berbatov also wanted out...

 

Bellamy wanted out, Man City knew that as well, yet West Ham robbed them blind, £15 million for that old waster.

You've also got to remember that as a club we owed a lot more to Given than Spurs did to Berbs or West ham to Bellamy. For all the years of loyal service he'd given to the club he had to be allowed to leave if he wanted to, and therefore to even get £6 million is pretty good.

On another point I'm still shocked and disgusted at the number of you who are willing to abuse Given, he is still and always will be a legend in my eyes. He eventually got fed up with the turmoil at the club, but who wouldn't have, I'm amazed he stayed with us as long as he did.

Well I'd say from experience that Conference is better to watch than League 2, and will breathe fresh life into the clubs that go down, making most teams better in the long run.

Not sure I agree with that, look at York City, facing the possibility of relegation to the Conference North and possibly disappearing altogether.

I like the idea of bringing in talented youngsters but how can we expect them to develop into top class players when we have to bring them into a senior team which lacks talent and quality and is more suited to battle than to play football?

Did anyone else find the stuff about Milner only being worth 6 million quite offensive. It might have been true but there's no need to air such a valuation in public, will only make him raise his game next time we play them.

Also the stuff about Aston Villa turning his head, I thought he just wanted a contract on a par with other players like him in the side (i.e. Taylor and N'Zogbia) and Ashley and co were to cheap to play ball.

CAN you explain why Mr Ashley completely ignored a request from NUSC to meet in a location of his choice to liaise with fans?

WE’RE in dialogue with them. We have a monthly meeting and we need to get the record straight – we are in dialogue with NUSC.

We have a monthly supporter meeting where a reasonably representative group of people who represent our fans tell us what for.

They have been invited to be part of that forum so there are four or five of them coming along.

It’s not true that we have blanked them.

We have engaged with them and had dialogue since they formed. And we’re sitting down again with the group.

Their initial approach was not in the correct tone. They are a small group and they are charging a subscription fee which was a bit strange to us.

They are welcome to come along to our forums. That’s fine, they are coming on February 12 and there will be four or five of them.

The whole idea of the panel is basically to give them an idea of where we are going and what the expectations for the future are.

We don’t want to talk about Kevin Keegan, which is an issue they will insist talking about. Unfortunately, that’s not what the tone is.

There are breakaway supporters groups. They (the NUSC) are a small group and given more credence than they deserve.

Anyone any idea who these supporters who have been invited to the meeting are? Given the extra credence that NUSC are given compared to what they deserve it can't be them can it. Personally just have more contempt for the regime after this interview full of platitudes and bullshit.

Do you think this could be the public statement that Mike Ashley was supposed to make after the transfer window? And realising it was a f*** up he's sent out his hired goon to do an interview with The Chronicle instead?

 

Hired goon ie the Chairman of the football club !

 

Yeah...?

 

As in who else should be talking ? It's the chairmans job to talk to the fans and to do the day to day running of the club. That's what Mort did when he was in charge and he did a damn good job of it. Current chairman so far is awful at his job though.

 

Read what I said man! Ashley said HE was going to come out with a public statement after the transfer window. Im suggesting that he's getting Llambias to do an interview with The Chronicle instead.

I think your right, didn't the journal and chronicle even claim that they would be meeting with both Llambias and Ashley?

If Kevin Nolan is a great passer of the ball, what superlative can you use to describe the likes of Fabregas and Pirlo?

It's sad how many people have turned against Given. I know he didn't leave under the best of circumstances but he was the one player who on a regular basis has called for Newcastle to invest in the squad (from my recollections he's done it before pretty much every transfer window for the last few years). I guess he finally had enough of not being listened to, or perhaps of being lied to, and has gone.  Sadly none of our other players will have the guts to come out and criticise the regime.

Perhaps he could have stayed till the end of the season, but he had the chance to get in on the ground floor at a club who are clearly on the up and he took it. I can't resent him for that.

Is it totally out of the question for him to come out and say this stuff himself like?

Yes, he has a severe lisp and is very insecure about it.

Just been on SSN;

 

"I felt Newcastle could have dealt with it a little bit better, to be honest,"

 

"I spent nearly 12 years of my life there, and that's a long time. I want to thank the fans for the support they've given me over the years. They're absolutely phenomenal.

 

"But this is a new challenge, and a new set of supporters to try and impress.

 

"I'd been there nearly 12 years, and with the service I'd given the club, I felt the regime could have dealt with it a little better.

 

"I was disappointed with the way the regime handled it.

 

"It's a difficult time for Newcastle. They're going through a difficult period, and the fans deserve better. They're extremely loyal supporters up there.

 

"They want the club to be firing up the league, and I wish them well.

 

"The Liverpool game was a real kick in the teeth. It was a low point in my career, and a low point for everyone.

 

"I wasn't very comfortable with the way the club was - I wanted to be challenging for silverware, but I didn't know if I was going to leave the club.

 

"I'll be forever grateful for what (the fans) have done for me in my career, but I felt the regime were very unhelpful."

 

The usual "love the fans"  blah blah that most players spout when being transferred.

 

"Regime were very unhelpful"  - well we may be in a mess but "unhelpful" ? Did he expect Newcastle to lie back and let him go easily after him and his agent went public ?

 

Come on Shay we might be daft but were not that bloody daft.

Yeah I think he did expect to be let go easily, and he deserved that as well. He gave nearly 12 years of loyal service and I'm sure would have given many more years if it weren't for Ashley and his cronies. He's an absolute legend and it's just a massive pity that he couldn't stay and get the appearance record.

So effectively Kinnear admits he lied during the transfer window, I thought he claimed he was given £10 million to spend

Ashley pledges to spend more time running NUFC

Feb 5 2009 by Mark Douglas, The Journal

 

MIKE Ashley has pledged to spend more time in the North East running Newcastle United as he looks to adopt a more ‘hands on’ role at the club he was prepared to sell before Christmas.

 

Ashley has told manager Joe Kinnear that he intends to be a more visible presence at the club’s training ground from now on – and that he will start to take more responsibility for the key decisions at the club.

 

He also agreed to Kinnear’s request for a regular fortnightly meeting.

 

It follows a prolonged visit by Ashley to the club’s training ground last week ahead of transfer deadline day, which Kinnear believes invigorated his commitment to Newcastle United. “Mike will be back in Newcastle today. He definitely wants to become more hands on in the running of his football club,” said Kinnear.

 

“He has been in Newcastle three days a week and that will be a regular thing from now on.

 

“He wants to see how things work and he’s committed to a fortnightly major meeting between everyone at the club so that we can start moving things in the right direction. It is a new world for him. Over the last week or so we’ve had him down at the training ground talking to the players, eating his lunch with them and giving them the kind of reassurances on their contracts and their future that they’ve needed to hear.

 

“He hasn’t seen players train and work first hand before but he told me it has opened his eyes, and he’s definitely willing to back up his words.”

 

Kinnear added: “I know people still have to be convinced about things but there is a sense of unity at the club now.

 

“The guys at the top know they need to communicate better, which is why they are speaking to the two local papers. I think they will sit down with supporters’ groups and fans and the people of Newcastle at the end of the season – I know they want to do that.

 

“When I came in I kept getting caught between different people wanting different things but hopefully that has now disappeared and we can start to look forward.”

http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/02/05/kinnear-ashley-will-be-more-hands-on-61634-22858740/

The second part of the story is:

Ashley is still fighting an uphill battle to reclaim credibility with United fans after the club’s January transfer window dealings, which saw Newcastle finish the month in profit.

It remains to be seen whether claims of Ashley’s renewed commitment to the club will dent the scepticism that has surrounded United’s owner since Kevin Keegan’s departure, but it does mark a departure from his previous policy of delegation to trusted advisors.

There are other moves afoot at St James’s Park, with Kinnear relocating some of the key power brokers at the club to the training base in Benton.

Derek Llambias and Ashley will have offices there, while the scouts and club secretaries are also set to be based away from the city centre, so that Kinnear can make contact with them quickly.

Meanwhile, United’s manager has expanded on the club’s efforts to strengthen in the transfer window – including their attempt to swap Charles N’Zogbia for Spurs striker Darren Bent.

“I had to raise my own transfer funds through selling other players which was not ideal but we just had to get on with it. The credit crunch has hit us hard,” he said.

“We tried to do plenty of things but clubs wouldn’t sell. I spoke to Harry Redknapp about swapping Charles N’Zogbia for Darren Bent but that was not something that Tottenham wanted to do.

“We went to Liverpool for Sammi Hyypia and got turned down. We wanted Michael Johnson and Nedum Onuoha from Manchester City as part of the Shay Given deal but they wouldn’t sell them, and we were faced with the choice of having a really unhappy player or letting him go.

“We were close with Johnson and when we didn’t get that we went for Kieran Richardson.”

Does anybody here follow the Turkish league? Money's talk about Australian Brad Inman made me wonder about young Troisi and how he's been getting on since leaving the toon. According to Wikipedia he's scored 7 in 14 this season in the Turkish top flight, which are very impressive figures for a winger. Maybe one we let go too soon!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Troisi

If it's true that he's on £1.2m a year, that's simply ridiculous.

 

Not really, he's made his money on Bassong and Jonas tbh

Does he then lose his money cos he couldn't get anyone else in?

Mostly slow and unathletic.

Agree with this, only 2 players with pace in the first team. Since Robson got sacked there's been a steady attempt to fill our team with stationary but "committed" players. No wonder we play such awful football.