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and you honestly think bobbys dismissal had anything to do with him dropping shearer against villa???

come off it

 

that was around the same time that bobby wanted to sell him to liverpool though (i think)

 

That's ok then. A great difference between that and Bellamy also seeking clarification on his place. bluewink.gif

 

 

i dont recall the manager trying to sell bellamy though, do you?

 

I don't recall Robson trying to actively sell Shearer either. I would have forgiven him had he done so though, right from the start he was aware of Shearers power and at the later stages it was clear that the inability to drop shearer was inhibiting our play.

 

"To succeed here it is essential that I get on with Alan Shearer," he insisted.

 

For a manager who had coped with, among others, Ronaldo, Romario and Stoichkov, it seemed an unusual admission. Yet, well aware that Shearer had engineered his predecessor, Ruud Gullit's exit, Robson was acutely conscious that the former England captain is a consummate politician.

 

Strangely enough,  Robson was dismissed almost immediately after omitting Shearer from the starting XI for a league match.

 

Anyway, here is what Robson had to say regarding Shearer leaving.

 

Newcastle boss Bobby Robson has revealed Celtic boss Martin O'Neill tried striker Alan Shearer to replace the out-going Henrik Larsson.

 

"Martin was on the phone to me to ask about the situation with Shearer. He wanted to know if we would let him go," said Robson.

 

"I thought it was a big enough story to tell my chairman (Freddy Shepherd) about but he said to forget it.

 

"He wasn't for selling Alan and I felt the same way."

He added: "So it never got past first base.

 

"Alan will want to finish his career in the black and white and retire at the end of the season.

"He's said it is what he plans to do and once he has made a decision he never goes back on it.

 

"I can understand why Martin would have wanted Alan to join Celtic. He is a leader and a tough guy but it was just a non-starter."

 

read bobbys book, you will find that he did try to sell shearer to liverpool to bring in mpenza

If Bellamy hears they've signed Kuyt that'll be the end of him going to Liverpool.  "Craig Bellamy needs to think about Craig Bellamy and Craig Bellamy needs to be playing first team football.  The bench is not the place for Craig Bellamy." will be along the lines of what he has to say on the matter.

 

 

Amazing how many people backing Bellamy by saying he loved us seem to forget this quote from when we bid for Rooney.

 

 

 

.................... when confronted with the possibility of non-guaranteed selection for the 1st team - ie. following Kluivert's arrival, with a Kluivert/Bellamy 1st choice strikepairing on the horizon - didn't Shearer similarly question his own future at the club. Yet Shearer's "love for the club" hasn't been similarly compromised in many a supporter's eyes.

 

Perhaps it's a case "hear no evil, see no evil" where certain individuals are concerned.

 

 

 

From nufc.com's Match Reports.

 

Alan Shearer told the Chronicle: "I think it would be great if we signed Rooney.

 

"He will be a fantastic asset and a great investment for this football club.

 

"It would be a great coup for the city and for the club if we can attract him here.

 

"If he is thinking about going abroad to Real Madrid or whatever then he can do that in four or five years time. He is only 18 and he is still effectively learning his trade.

 

"He will only be 22 or 23 in four years time so he's got plenty of time on his side and I think it would be a great step for him."

 

"Obviously it's all up in the air at the moment. Yes he would put my place under threat. It would put everyone under threat. So what?

 

"If he can come in and do well, then great. It's always been the rules of football if someone comes in and does well, you support him and say well done.

 

"We are all in it for this football club and if Rooney comes in and improves us, then we are all for it and I am 100% behind that.

 

"If we can get him it would be brilliant."

 

 

 

The comments i refer to, when Shearer in a decidely more eloquent and media friendly manner left a distinct impression that he'd indeed look after his own interests in the event of SBR no longer guaranteeing him regular 1st team football, took place earlier in that particular transfer window ie. around the time of the Kluivert transfer.

 

Somebody will find them although i'm certain they won't be found on dot.cock.

 

"If the manager said to me I wasn't going to be a regular, I'd have to consider things. I want to play as much football as I can in my last season. I think there's a good year left in my legs. I was pleased with passing 20 goals again last season and I hope I do the same, if not better this year."

 

 

that was around the same time that bobby wanted to sell him to liverpool though (i think)

 

That's ok then. A great difference between that and Bellamy also seeking clarification on his place. bluewink.gif

i dont recall the manager trying to sell bellamy though, do you?

If Bellamy hears they've signed Kuyt that'll be the end of him going to Liverpool.  "Craig Bellamy needs to think about Craig Bellamy and Craig Bellamy needs to be playing first team football.  The bench is not the place for Craig Bellamy." will be along the lines of what he has to say on the matter.

 

 

Amazing how many people backing Bellamy by saying he loved us seem to forget this quote from when we bid for Rooney.

 

 

 

.................... when confronted with the possibility of non-guaranteed selection for the 1st team - ie. following Kluivert's arrival, with a Kluivert/Bellamy 1st choice strikepairing on the horizon - didn't Shearer similarly question his own future at the club. Yet Shearer's "love for the club" hasn't been similarly compromised in many a supporter's eyes.

 

Perhaps it's a case "hear no evil, see no evil" where certain individuals are concerned.

 

 

 

From nufc.com's Match Reports.

 

Alan Shearer told the Chronicle: "I think it would be great if we signed Rooney.

 

"He will be a fantastic asset and a great investment for this football club.

 

"It would be a great coup for the city and for the club if we can attract him here.

 

"If he is thinking about going abroad to Real Madrid or whatever then he can do that in four or five years time. He is only 18 and he is still effectively learning his trade.

 

"He will only be 22 or 23 in four years time so he's got plenty of time on his side and I think it would be a great step for him."

 

"Obviously it's all up in the air at the moment. Yes he would put my place under threat. It would put everyone under threat. So what?

 

"If he can come in and do well, then great. It's always been the rules of football if someone comes in and does well, you support him and say well done.

 

"We are all in it for this football club and if Rooney comes in and improves us, then we are all for it and I am 100% behind that.

 

"If we can get him it would be brilliant."

 

 

 

The comments i refer to, when Shearer in a decidely more eloquent and media friendly manner left a distinct impression that he'd indeed look after his own interests in the event of SBR no longer guaranteeing him regular 1st team football, took place earlier in that particular transfer window ie. around the time of the Kluivert transfer.

 

Somebody will find them although i'm certain they won't be found on dot.cock.

 

"If the manager said to me I wasn't going to be a regular, I'd have to consider things. I want to play as much football as I can in my last season. I think there's a good year left in my legs. I was pleased with passing 20 goals again last season and I hope I do the same, if not better this year."

that was around the same time that bobby wanted to sell him to liverpool though (i think)

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why on earth would anyone have him back?

i would undertsand if he had a good season at valencia, but i believe he only got one goal?

and after roeders comments regarding players personalities/injury records being assesed beofre we look at signing them, i ant see kluivert coming back, can you??

And I cannot believe the LMA's Geordie bosses John Banwell and Frank Clark are so negative in their views towards Roeder, who just happens to be one of their paid-up members.

Whatever happens, Roeder will be in charge at St James' Park, no matter what title he carries.

He will have Alan Shearer back at his side after the legendary striker takes a season off to do some TV commentating and some ambassadorial work with Umbro, as well as spending more time with his family.

In the meantime, Roeder will have to decide who he also wants alongside him, with people in the game saying in Tommy Craig United have one of the best coaches in football. Roeder himself is a coach, but if he wants a bit of help from Craig this would open the door for Lee Clark to take over the United Reserve team.

Roeder's main aim is to try and get United into Europe in the last two games at Birmingham City and at home to Chelsea a week on Sunday, but in between all this he has also been trying to look at next season.

He advised the board to monitor Ruud van Nistelrooy's situation at Manchester United, and twice despatched his chief scout, David Mills, to travel to Holland in recent weeks to run the rule over Feyenoord's goalscoring striker Dirk Kuyt.

And he is finding time to talk to the fans - free of charge. Tomorrow's talk-in at Montgomery's, in Stanley, for the local Royal FC is already a sell-out, and a week tomorrow Roeder will be at Wallsend Labour Club doing his bit for the renowned Wallsend Boys' Club.

There is a feel-good factor at St James' Park these days - something which was typified when Shearer hobbled into the Players' Lounge on crutches before the game with West Brom.

For Shepherd quipped: "Hey this is the Players' Lounge, not the ex-Players' Lounge" - and Shearer nearly fell off his crutches laughing.

chron reckons shearer wil join roeder in 12 months time

its worth getting on tommy craig

 

Ya wha?

 

 

if the fa refuse to wait for roeder to get his badge, we will 'appoint' craig until roder does it.

 

he is 80/1

 

They won't pay out on that mate.  They're at pains to point out that "caretaker, interim etc" doesn't apply.

i dont think we can appoint another 'caretaker' or 'interim' though can we??

he will have to be named permenant manager and then 'step down' so to speak

its worth getting on tommy craig

 

Ya wha?

if the fa refuse to wait for roeder to get his badge, we will 'appoint' craig until roder does it.

he is 80/1

its worth getting on tommy craig

craigy is reporting it on ssn now

its a results business, and he is getting results

i think we could end up with an anal 'exclusive' this afternoon, unless it is announced officially before

 

Hold on, does that mean that you've been told by the Chronicle that there will be a Chronicle exclusive,or that they've been told directly by Shepherd that this is going to happen?

i have just had a call telling me its him

i think we could end up with an anal 'exclusive' this afternoon, unless it is announced officially before

Is betting still open?

aye, i just got 4/1

i got a call from someone at the chron this morning, its him

expect some real news today, roeder is the new gaffer