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He's another numbers guy ain't he. While Miggy and Murphy seem to run around loads and seem involved.... Barnes just knows where the onion bag is.

If someone put a button in front of me and said I could end the season right now, I'd press it in a heartbeat. Every time we seem to be coming out of the clouds and injury occurs and knocks us back 3 paces. How do Isak and Gordon get injured, immediately when Barnes and Wilson return? It's a joke.

Great managers just don't arrive from the womb though. Unless you are Boss Baby of course. Managers grow and develop. Again, Klopp didn't just turn up at Liverpool without making mistakes prior. He was at Dortmund, where he did and unreal job... but I'm sure if I asked a Dortmund fan, there'd be a left back he played for too long or a signing that didn't work etc and before that I'm sure there are even more. Eddie Howe isn't a 60 year old finished product. He's a glorious half baked Red Velvet cake. Give him SOME room for error.

Ake and White. Both better than Burn but Jaqens point stands. Of course you can play CBs at full back... if you have 80% possession every week and the full back hasn't the turning capabilities of the Costa Concordia.

He does need to address this issue but I'm not having the "Elite managers yada". Jurgen Klopp didn't make poor judgements at Mainz? Klopp made poor judgements last season man. Only 2 years ago Pep didn't play a DM in the CL final and got beat. Despite people warning against it prior. Great managers make mistakes.

There's some good points in here tonight and this is one of them. Put Burn in the box, with lofted balls or a bit of a scrap and he will win everything, stick him wide left back with a pacey winger and he's fucked. It's also worth mentioning that there's every chance he's lost a yard since last season.... and he wasn't Usain Bolt to begin with. Things change, he's being exposed. Livramento can at least grow. I'm not saying Burn is done here, in fact, the big fella will benefit from less games and coming into a good side. It's become painful. As soon as Howe bites the bullet, we will benefit from it.

Totally agree with this. He's an 8/10 on the ball, but he's like a 4/10 tactically. He needs some growing and some maturing. I'd suggest a upper championship loan.... however loaning players isn't out strong suit.

Of course I don't think he should be in a job if we draw every week but that's kind of an obvious point. If the board has even once questioned their backing of Howe, then I'd question my backing of them. (That's not to say we shouldn't have our eye on wider football incase things did go to shit, thats just smart business). If we performed like this with a fullish squad, my view would be wildy different. Next year is a big year.

It's not the scoreline, or even the draw. It's the complete lack of control. We didn't control Fulham, we did control Villa (for 75 mins) and now back to letting Luton run riot. I don't even think we controlled the mackems the way I think we should.

I agree on point one and he should see subs quicker, so I kind of agree on point 2 but he's had few options. On the "employers" point, sorry thats nonsense. Anyone with a football brain should be fully behind Howe.

Apologies @OpenCand @David Edgar let my emotions dictate during the game. Trying to clarify my thoughts. Eddie Howe has credit in the bank, so did Dan Burn but for everyone the credit can diminish. People have different breaking points. Fair play, you wanted Burn out of the team sooner, i did want Livramento in my 11 but I wasn't as desperate to see Burn dropped. I thought he deserved a chance after last season. Eddie Howe still has a ton of credit, Burns has run out. If Eddie keeps playing Burn, despite the evidence, his will diminish too. Ultimately, I back Eddie but everyone has their blindspot. I doubt anyone thinks Burn should start from here on out.

Don't deserve a win. Shocking performance in reality.

This.ref.

If we don't get 9 minutes.

Let's call a truce. Sorry man. Emotions flying high. Let's get a 5th.

Lost our way again.

@David Edgar @OpenC Bet ya gutted.

You one like?

I totally agree Howe has got this wrong this Burn. I'm just not having a world were the forum knackers feel empowered.

Going to be gutted if we turn this around.

Lowest I've felt about us since the takeover. Made worse by those who actively want us to get beat.

And you. Love it.

Buzzing aren't you?

My commentator literally celebrated their goal.

No excuse for not bringing Burn off.