Unbelievable

he played, and everyone has been saying how he doesn't look fit or happy. as the seasons went on he's looked less happy so i guess it'll come down to his happiness as opposed to anything we do. i don't want us busting the bank to keep a player who may not suit our preferred formation and has injury worries. If he's not happy why would he entertain the idea of a new contract (which I think is where you're going at with the "busting the bank to keep a player..." statement?), or even come out inviting interested parties to trigger the supposed release clause? As far as I am concerned Pardew is doing the right thing: try to make him feel wanted and committed to the club. If it fails and he leaves (which isn't unlikely unfortunately), by all means move on and try to make us a stronger team by getting in a replacement better suited to the wide role in 4-3-2, but until then why would we be actively trying to get rid of one of the best forwards in the past Premiership season who we got for free on a relatively low wage? i'm not actively trying to get rid of him, i've said a couple of times of my last few posts that I want him to stay, but that I think he'll choose otherwise. Wasn't aimed at you specifically that last point.. However, I still fail to understand your breaking the bank/happiness argument. He's tied down to us, isn't he? It appears whether the wil be here come the 1st of September is not completely in our control (if the release clause rumour is true), but why should we not do everything in our power to keep him happy and committed? as i just posted, if a players not happy for footballing reasons then i don't want him staying just for the cash. I'm not too sold on him and cisse in a front 3, it might work but i'm not sure, if ba thinks not that's what'll see him leave imo. What makes you think he's unhappy for footballing reasons, when he's publicly stated the opposite? recent performances,pardews comments and players,when asked, always say they are happy, or even nothing wrong with the club (ie they haven't done anything wrong) but this current position isn't working. anyhow, we'll see by september. How is it not working? Have our results been disappointing when he's played in that wide left position? Has the fluidity of that system not meant all 3 forwards have essentially played all over the front line in matches? Has Demba Ba himself not had some very good goalscoring chances? OK, he's not scored for a while, I'll grant you that, but he's missed some sitters (including a pen), hit the woodwork multiple times and been a key part of the best attacking play we've seen for many a season. It's not like you to be all drama queen btw. You're normally one of the more balanced posters. Did you not take your chill pill this morning?

(aimed at Des Cahill (whomever he is), not you..

he played, and everyone has been saying how he doesn't look fit or happy. as the seasons went on he's looked less happy so i guess it'll come down to his happiness as opposed to anything we do. i don't want us busting the bank to keep a player who may not suit our preferred formation and has injury worries. If he's not happy why would he entertain the idea of a new contract (which I think is where you're going at with the "busting the bank to keep a player..." statement?), or even come out inviting interested parties to trigger the supposed release clause? As far as I am concerned Pardew is doing the right thing: try to make him feel wanted and committed to the club. If it fails and he leaves (which isn't unlikely unfortunately), by all means move on and try to make us a stronger team by getting in a replacement better suited to the wide role in 4-3-2, but until then why would we be actively trying to get rid of one of the best forwards in the past Premiership season who we got for free on a relatively low wage? i'm not actively trying to get rid of him, i've said a couple of times of my last few posts that I want him to stay, but that I think he'll choose otherwise. Wasn't aimed at you specifically that last point.. However, I still fail to understand your breaking the bank/happiness argument. He's tied down to us, isn't he? It appears whether the wil be here come the 1st of September is not completely in our control (if the release clause rumour is true), but why should we not do everything in our power to keep him happy and committed? as i just posted, if a players not happy for footballing reasons then i don't want him staying just for the cash. I'm not too sold on him and cisse in a front 3, it might work but i'm not sure, if ba thinks not that's what'll see him leave imo. What makes you think he's unhappy for footballing reasons, when he's publicly stated the opposite?

he played, and everyone has been saying how he doesn't look fit or happy. as the seasons went on he's looked less happy so i guess it'll come down to his happiness as opposed to anything we do. i don't want us busting the bank to keep a player who may not suit our preferred formation and has injury worries. If he's not happy why would he entertain the idea of a new contract (which I think is where you're going at with the "busting the bank to keep a player..." statement?), or even come out inviting interested parties to trigger the supposed release clause? As far as I am concerned Pardew is doing the right thing: try to make him feel wanted and committed to the club. If it fails and he leaves (which isn't unlikely unfortunately), by all means move on and try to make us a stronger team by getting in a replacement better suited to the wide role in 4-3-2, but until then why would we be actively trying to get rid of one of the best forwards in the past Premiership season who we got for free on a relatively low wage? i'm not actively trying to get rid of him, i've said a couple of times of my last few posts that I want him to stay, but that I think he'll choose otherwise. Wasn't aimed at you specifically that last point.. However, I still fail to understand your breaking the bank/happiness argument. He's tied down to us, isn't he? It appears whether the wil be here come the 1st of September is not completely in our control (if the release clause rumour is true), but why should we not do everything in our power to keep him happy and committed?

he played, and everyone has been saying how he doesn't look fit or happy. as the seasons went on he's looked less happy so i guess it'll come down to his happiness as opposed to anything we do. i don't want us busting the bank to keep a player who may not suit our preferred formation and has injury worries. If he's not happy why would he entertain the idea of a new contract (which I think is where you're going at with the "busting the bank to keep a player..." statement?), or even come out inviting interested parties to trigger the supposed release clause? As far as I am concerned Pardew is doing the right thing: try to make him feel wanted and committed to the club. If it fails and he leaves (which isn't unlikely unfortunately), by all means move on and try to make us a stronger team by getting in a replacement better suited to the wide role in 4-3-2, but until then why would we be actively trying to get rid of one of the best forwards in the past Premiership season who we got for free on a relatively low wage?

I see your point, however from that reported 7 million we would supposedly only get half. Also, his reported wages are quite low compared to other 15+ goal a season forwards. I cannot see us replacing him with a player of similar quality without having to shell out significantly more on transfer fees, signing fees and wages. He has a contract for another 2 years, so if we are even thinking along those lines, why not do it next summer? Of course, all this is from our perspective. If the clause rumours are true we may not have a choice, but that's a completely different discussion which I think may be influencing people's thought process regarding our summer plans..

You're not alone. He was a pivotal cog in that 4-3-3 formation that saw us go on a 6 match winning run. Anybody advocating selling him (by choice) needs their heads checked.

Agreed I got raped on here for saying such things a couple of weeks ago

They've renamed the KKK thread: The Kenny Dalglish Discussion (*) - Post A Rumour and Get A Week Off Free

Very easy for you for the next seven days at least. Next?

The sig from the RAWK forum nazi explains a lot:

Went over to see what they're saying about it on RAWK, but silly me, I should have known they wouldn't been allowed to discuss it. It really is 1938 Germany over there. How does anyone be arsed to post on that forum when the mods are a bunch of up their own arse nazis that decide peoples opinions and thoughts for them? They're mental.. WTF

Damn! Hope not.

Which papers?

He's also 28 and I presume on a very decent wedge for a player of such limited ability. Suits the mackems to a tee..

Mackems are slowly and steadily moving in the right direction. 10th last season, 13th this..

Can see him going to Sunderland

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Decent. Compared to £47.2m last year.

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