Unbelievable

Err, in my lifetime Non European teams have won the WC 6 times. You missed "SA" in the thread title?

Basically this, Ghana could have won it this year, with Essien they might have got even closer. Agreed, also who knows what Ivory Coast could have done with a fitter Drogba and somebody like Hiddink managing them (which was close to happening). Teams like Ghana and IC could be contenders, but they will also need huge amounts of luck (injuries, refereeing decisions) to get there..

May have been done in South America though (Copa Libertadores).. One for the journalists to find out..

Not in one year/season then..

Xavi really deserves it. Should be Messi for me, even if he didn't really win any international competitions. If Holland win it will be Sneijder though; he may not deserve it, but it's hard to ignore the fact he would have won every single competition he was involved in this season and have been quite instrumental in doing so... Has anybody ever accomplished that feat (winning 4 out of 4 competitions including CL and WC (or EC) I mean)?

Howard Webb hopefully! We need Van Bommel and De Jong to be able to get into Xavi's and Iniesta's face or we don't stand a chance, so a more lenient ref would be more than welcome...

De Guzman on a free? Yes please!

Funny how the mood in the Dutch media has changed after the Spain result. Yesterday it was all hallelujah and bring on the Germans and now it's Spain they seem to think we are the underdog. I am still very confident. Wacko is right about getting in the face of the Spanish players and putting them under pressure, and I think Holland have been doing exactly that quite well this tournament, plus Spain seem to be having trouble scoring, more so than Holland, so I still think we have a good chance. Both teams are terrific at counter attacking football (although both teams also seem to have problems finishing a game off when they break), so I would say scoring the first goal is absolutely crucial in this one...

Two teams who have traditionally bottled it in World Cups have reached the final. You would hope one would have it in them to win it this time..

Good. If things don't go to plan we will bring on Elia to make his life miserable. Although neither team is specifically 'dirty' I can see a sending off or two for the final, probably involving our defensive midfielders and/or your full backs..

On the other hand Robben should completely own Capdevilla on the right, and our 2 defensive midfielders (Van Bommel and De Jong) may just provide enough steel to frustrate Spain's midfield passing game.. I think it's quite thinly balanced..

I know the feeling. Congratulations on reaching the final. May the best team win on Sunday.

That's a hell of a pic for your avatar. It's the precise moment? Aye, goal of the tournament imho...

Holland is on record breaking form: now unbeaten in 25 matches, and won the last 10. One more to go please..!

Man in my avatar, a child from my city and a player of my hometown club, is playing his very last football match in his career on Sunday. Come on Gio, make it one to remember and score another screamer like that to make a fitting end to a distinguished career!

YES! Brilliant atmosphere here in Holland yesterday. Here's hoping Sunday will be the biggest party ever. Germany please..

all match i'm going to be calling forlan "underestimation".....""underestimation's unmarked man", "pass man underestimastion you greedy t***". He's their only player..

Starting to feel a little nervous about tonight. The only thing between us and a World Cup final is bloody Uruguay. We have to watch out for underestimation here, but bloody hell, it's doable alright!

Holland to beat Germany in the World Cup final this time next week hopefully!!!

Germany - Netherlands wouldn't be too shabby either..

Tbf, they have alot more talent in their squad than the US. Brazil OUT on your signature! Haha. I'll do it after this game man. No, it's making me feel like this afternoon was just a dream... Do it NOW...

Tbf, they have alot more talent in their squad than the US. Brazil OUT on your signature!

This match is dog poo... I'd be really, really disappointed if we don't beat these, whomever may win...

Man, I feel drunk...

Feyenoord fan? How did you guess?