Unbelievable

This "any owner is better than Shepherd" doesn't seem to hold so well either..

Sigh

If that's what the manager wants then that's what the club should do. It is in line with the "summer transfer" policy though AKA whole squad up for sale/being forced out. Not really as Kinnear will be selling players to bring in players that he wants and if he wants to sell Jonas and Colo to sign Ferguson and Diop then good for him. As long as the club are letting the manager have the final say then it's a good thing. Baggio, would it be acceptable for you if Kinnear had to sell in order to buy this transfer window, i.e. if no significant net investment was made into the playing squad for the fourth transfer window running? Would this constitute moving the club forward, as Mike promised? I'd rather Kinnear wasn't involved with buying or selling any of our players. As for spending money in this transfer window, I'm not sure how much the club is making these days but if I was Ashley I wouldn't put any of my own money into the club while the fans don't even want me at games. Agreed on the Kinnear part. Surprised about the second bit; did Mike Ashley not say he was going to take us forward when he took us off the market? Here's hoping Mike is not as stubborn as you and is capable of learning from his mistakes. It's not only in our best interest, it's in his own too.

If that's what the manager wants then that's what the club should do. It is in line with the "summer transfer" policy though AKA whole squad up for sale/being forced out. Not really as Kinnear will be selling players to bring in players that he wants and if he wants to sell Jonas and Colo to sign Ferguson and Diop then good for him. As long as the club are letting the manager have the final say then it's a good thing. Baggio, would it be acceptable for you if Kinnear had to sell in order to buy this transfer window, i.e. if no significant net investment was made into the playing squad for the fourth transfer window running? Would this constitute moving the club forward, as Mike promised?

While that statement has some merit, it doesn't warrant us shelling out another silly contract for him anymore or building a team around him in the idle hope he will be staying. He is no longer the player he once was and we can't carry a player like him. We need to move on, as well as him. this, every time Sunderland & Fulham away must have been figments of my imagination then because he was awful in both of those games when Owen was out. 2 games is all you can come up with? Those were the ones that come to mind, yes. he was s**** agreed. But he's also excelled alongside Shola f***ing Ameobi. Whereas Owen just doesn't seem to influence the game whatsoever without Oba That's because Oba sets a lot of his goals up and that's all Owen can really do now up top in a 4-4-2 is be in the right place (which he's obviously one of the best at). I'd be genuinely interested to know how many goals Owen has set up while he's been at NUFC. If it's more than 2-3, I'd be very surprised. Also one of the reasons why Man U wouldn't consider Owen in a month of Sundays. Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldo and Berbatov even if they don't score goals provide so much pace and movement they create so many more. That's all very well if you're a team who have other players like that. Put it another way, if Owen signed for someone like Blackburn, Stoke, WBA, Hull, etc. they'd score a helluva lot more goals and have more clear-cut chances with his movement than what we'd have with our other current strikers. Based on what?

Oh right, you don't think we'll miss his goals? Not if we replace him with someone equal or better. Which isn't going to happen... It woudn't be nearly as difficult as you seem to believe.. What player would you suggest then? It's not my job to keep track of all the up and coming players in the world. We need somebody to complement Martins, which Owen doesn't, so somebody who can hold the ball up, is an aerial thread and can put himself about a bit. Would be good if they also have the technique to be able to create a chance for themselves.

Oh right, you don't think we'll miss his goals? Not if we replace him with someone equal or better. Which isn't going to happen... It woudn't be nearly as difficult as you seem to believe..

Oh right, you don't think we'll miss his goals? Not if we replace him with someone equal or better.

I suppose he could always demand that Kinnear plays him. It wouldn't go down too well on here though. Would it go down well with you Baggio?

Owen a 6 after missing three sitters? Butt was worse than Carroll also..

Aye, but he'll get one eventually. Have faith in little Mickey. Lol

Butt almost shot Guthrie to pieces to clear the ball..

Good play Jonas

Butt ffs~!@!!@~#@!@

Fuck off ref!!!

Owen miss, great play Jonas and Butt..

Phew!!!

Great play Duff again..

Duff is Pele!!!

We're going to get robbed here..

Should have been a pen ffs!!!

HT, good start, finish it off in the second half..

They have it in for Guthrie, who is coping admirably and drawing a lot of bookings. We will be at least a man up for the latter parts of this match if this continues..

Geovanni booked

Or injured lol..