Andy

As of yet.

Not as much of a gamble as keeping him, not signing a second striker, and hoping he just changes his mind and decides to play again.

Exactly. As I said yesterday, you don't become successful in business by letting your assets rot and lose value. There's also an argument that you don't become a successful football club that way too - all clubs but the very best have to be open to selling players now in the PSR era, it's the only way to grow. The club will have weighed all this up and made the decision they felt was best for them. They haven't just buckled and given in, it'll be a calculated decision.

Yup. Reading between the lines, the club have been actively pursuing the sale for weeks as was clear by our activity in the transfer market. At some point, through his own actions, his career here became impossible to salvage and it was decided that it was best for all parties to move him on. Time to put this mess behind us as a fanbase and get behind the players who remain. Hopefully we can get a body through the door today.

It helps that our transfer staff only work Thursdays and Fridays

I'm not so sure. This feels nothing like the Cabaye situation. It's played out a lot longer, more publicly, and the contempt from fans both online and in "real life" is on a complete different level to that situation. The Cabaye thing happened when it was easy to be apathetic towards the club, the situations just aren't the same.

Let's see what happens over the next 24 hours. I personally would find it very hard to welcome Isak back into the team should he stay - it might actually mark the end of football for me, as someone who has attended Newcastle games since the age of five. These situations aren't unprecedented but are rarely played out in public to this extent, with such contempt and disrespect for the club and fans.

The fact that we appear to be very actively chasing that second striker says that we are just as keen to meet those conditions as any prospective buyer. We have no idea what the club's actual selling valuation is, they're not going to announce that to the press.

Liverpool haven't made a second offer, by all accounts. We have no idea. You're saying "the club WILL do this" based on nothing but conjecture, then attacking the likes of Paully and other fans for doing the exact same thing I suspect you're setting yourself up for a huge amount of disappointment if you think we'd reject it purely to be arsey and stick him on the bench until January though. It would be great, but we won't do it. If the local press 'mouth pieces' are a reliable indicator to you, their change in tone over the weekend should tell you all you need to know.

I'm not dying on any hill, what the fuck are you on about I'm putting forward the argument that neither you, nor anybody else, has a fucking scooby what our owners will do or what is happening behind the scenes, so attacking fellow fans over it is moronic. It could go either way, but currently it looks to me like we'd sell if an offer matched our valuation.

We don't know that the club would consider themselves to be selling him for under their valuation of him. We don't know how much Liverpool will bid, we don't our actual valuation of him (only what journalists have either been briefed or have made up), and we don't know what conversations have taken place either with Liverpool or with Isak. There's a lot of conjecture, but if the club choose to sell, it will likely be at an undisclosed fee, and as fans we'll have to take it for granted that the club felt they got value for him and that it was the right thing to do, all aspects of the saga taken into account.

I'd love that to be the case, but I doubt Woltemade has come here to be Isak's backup. If he's signed, it's likely with assurances that he's his replacement.

Completely fucking our relationship with him while not actually wanting to sign him sounds right up their street.

Sounds great as an angry fan, but it makes little sense for a business to spend fortunes on a dead asset. Our owners are ultimately businessmen.

What he's said is probably correct though, the transfer will very likely go through. It seems clear that by signing one striker on Friday and by continuing to chase others across the weekend, that the club are actively pursuing the sale. If we didn't want to sell him, we'd just sit on our hands and wait it out.

Not when him leaving potentially relegates the club. Age and contract length become irrelevant at that point.

It really depends on whether "reasonable" is defined in writing. Because Brentford may not see £50m as reasonable if it leaves them in danger of relegation. They'd likely also argue that 19 premier league goals is worth more than that in the current market.

If he had assurances in writing that he could leave upon receiving a reasonable offer, then the situation is somewhat different to Isak, but it really depends what a "reasonable" offer is defined as by Brentford. Regardless, I don't really want any player that strikes to leave his club for us, to be honest.

That narrative does seem to be changing though, over the last few days

There are two options: 1) journalists are just guessing about PSR. 2) the club are pushing the PSR thing to journalists to soften the impact of the sale.

Depends if our outgoing transfer staff are as slow as our incoming transfer staff, there's still a chance we actually fuck this sale up without meaning to.

Played well, but ironically, if he'd put in that kind of high-aggression performance for us last season on a consistent basis he'd probably still be here.

Not so sure, he got bullied a bit today like, considering his size

Any competent striker would have us at least 6 points on the board tbh. Hopefully we'll have this fully resolved going into the Wolves game with another addition, but Isak situation aside, Eddie has been badly let down by his colleagues in how long it's taken to get a Wilson replacement in, and we're already playing catch up as a result. We would've been in the same position had there been no interest in Isak and he'd picked up an injury. Hopefully this doesn't bite us come the end of the season.

Don't want to be too critical as it's not his fault he found himself starting up front today, but he's clearly not ready for this level, and I'm not sure he ever will be as a striker. Seems to have no instinct for the position whatsoever and has probably just been put up there as a kid because of his physical elements, which unfortunately also fall short at this level at the moment.