GM

Usual poor control from Jonas when it mattered most.

Dear me.

Bolton deserved to score.

Diabolical performance so far.

Bit chaotic at the back...again.

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I have heard on very good authority that signing Henrik Larsson is part of the new post-Wise youth policy...

Sounds like just the sort of player we need in our midfield, to be fair. I'd lay pretty good money on it happening one day, too. I wouldn't. He detests us. I hear you. It's just that there's some sort of perverse inevitability about it though...

Sounds like just the sort of player we need in our midfield, to be fair. I'd lay pretty good money on it happening one day, too.

And a Pakistani to boot.

i'm not going to argue with you on that score, i agree with you its shocking that there has been nothing said about what this rally is for or what they plan to achieve, they've had nearly 2 weeks to get the heads together and come up with something!! NUSC could become a good supporters' club, I just don't see any evidence of them doing so, or even trying to at present. As for the their anti-Ashley campaign, well the first thing you have to do if you're going to criticise someone's running of their organisation is to make sure that you don't do the exact same thing with yours, they don't seem to see the irony in that, let alone the hypocrisy. Won't deny its had "teething" problems but was always going to considering it was formed on the back of the Keegan dismissal and feelings among fans running high, this forum has been critical of NUSC for its hardline approach whereas i've read things on the chronicle forum and people on there are giving it a hardtime for not been hard enough!! I still believe its got a big future, whatever criticisms people on here have its growing daily, if you believe True Faith it already the largest and fastest growing independent correctly convened club supporters association in the UK(not sure what they mean by correctly convened mind), there's already as far as i'm aware plans for it to become a supporters trust which would be a good move and give it more power and credence. What is the significance of being a supporter's trust? How does that work? I can't remember exactly what was said to be honest, Colin Whittle proposed it at the first (and only!!) members meeting mpnths ago and it was voted through with a huge majority, i think he'd looked into starting one when there was the save our seats carry on years ago. The one thing that has stuck in head though is that if it gets trust status it can get government funding, but again i'm not sure how that would work. You see that's one of the main problems with NUSC, it's all about "how can we get bigger, how can we get more members and more publicity?" and very little about "why do we exist, what are we about, what are we trying to say and how can we serve our members' interests?". It just seems like one huge vanity project for its leadership built on the back of the current unrest amongst the fans. What a ridiculous thing to say. Name one positive thing that they've done in their six months. If you want, you can include something that has made Ashley's departure more likely as one of your "positive" things, you still won't find anything. Whatever your view on Ashley, NUSC has achieved nothing, other than self-publicity. Raised over £3000 for the SBR Foundation. Here you go then, what have they achieved for supporters of Newcastle United in their 6 months of existance? And don't bullshit with the "stewards" crap because they had sod all to do with that, and the 2 fans who were arrested at the boro, well its hardly made a huge impact on the 40,000 others who regularly attend matches. Have they had a go at Newcastle United for changing their number from an 0191 number to an 0845 one? NOPE. Have they asked Newcastle United to justify the prices in the kiosks at the ground, sodding nearly £2 for a bottle of coke, over £3 for a pint? NOPE. Have they done anything other than have a go at Ashley and Llambias? NOPE! You never know they club might reduce their kiosk prices as a result of the boycott!!!! I can't really see them having a word in Ashleys ear about that really. i'd love to hear that conversation... " hi mike, i know we are boycotting your drinks and food in the ground but don't suppose you would mind reducing the price a bit, a few of the fans not boycotting are moaning that £3 a pint is too much" Doubt it, cos no-one is really boycotting the food and drink in the ground tbh. Well, you should be, remember you're making good progress! I didn't mean me, like. I am taking the car on sunday so shall be limiting myself to a bovril. Mmmmmmmmm, meaty goodness.

i'm not going to argue with you on that score, i agree with you its shocking that there has been nothing said about what this rally is for or what they plan to achieve, they've had nearly 2 weeks to get the heads together and come up with something!! NUSC could become a good supporters' club, I just don't see any evidence of them doing so, or even trying to at present. As for the their anti-Ashley campaign, well the first thing you have to do if you're going to criticise someone's running of their organisation is to make sure that you don't do the exact same thing with yours, they don't seem to see the irony in that, let alone the hypocrisy. Won't deny its had "teething" problems but was always going to considering it was formed on the back of the Keegan dismissal and feelings among fans running high, this forum has been critical of NUSC for its hardline approach whereas i've read things on the chronicle forum and people on there are giving it a hardtime for not been hard enough!! I still believe its got a big future, whatever criticisms people on here have its growing daily, if you believe True Faith it already the largest and fastest growing independent correctly convened club supporters association in the UK(not sure what they mean by correctly convened mind), there's already as far as i'm aware plans for it to become a supporters trust which would be a good move and give it more power and credence. What is the significance of being a supporter's trust? How does that work? I can't remember exactly what was said to be honest, Colin Whittle proposed it at the first (and only!!) members meeting mpnths ago and it was voted through with a huge majority, i think he'd looked into starting one when there was the save our seats carry on years ago. The one thing that has stuck in head though is that if it gets trust status it can get government funding, but again i'm not sure how that would work. You see that's one of the main problems with NUSC, it's all about "how can we get bigger, how can we get more members and more publicity?" and very little about "why do we exist, what are we about, what are we trying to say and how can we serve our members' interests?". It just seems like one huge vanity project for its leadership built on the back of the current unrest amongst the fans. What a ridiculous thing to say. Name one positive thing that they've done in their six months. If you want, you can include something that has made Ashley's departure more likely as one of your "positive" things, you still won't find anything. Whatever your view on Ashley, NUSC has achieved nothing, other than self-publicity. Raised over £3000 for the SBR Foundation. Here you go then, what have they achieved for supporters of Newcastle United in their 6 months of existance? And don't bullshit with the "stewards" crap because they had sod all to do with that, and the 2 fans who were arrested at the boro, well its hardly made a huge impact on the 40,000 others who regularly attend matches. Have they had a go at Newcastle United for changing their number from an 0191 number to an 0845 one? NOPE. Have they asked Newcastle United to justify the prices in the kiosks at the ground, sodding nearly £2 for a bottle of coke, over £3 for a pint? NOPE. Have they done anything other than have a go at Ashley and Llambias? NOPE! You never know they club might reduce their kiosk prices as a result of the boycott!!!! I can't really see them having a word in Ashleys ear about that really. i'd love to hear that conversation... " hi mike, i know we are boycotting your drinks and food in the ground but don't suppose you would mind reducing the price a bit, a few of the fans not boycotting are moaning that £3 a pint is too much" Doubt it, cos no-one is really boycotting the food and drink in the ground tbh. Well, you should be, remember you're making good progress!

Sorry GM :-[ I wouldn't mind mate, except my own heart's about as dodgy as Joe's ticker.

Bloody hell. You bumping this thread made me think something bad had happened to Joe.

Considering that prior to NUSC's establishment we simply had Frank Gilmour acting as rent-a-gob on the fans' supposed behalf, surely having any multi-party interest group speaking up on behalf of the fans has to be, of itself, something to be encouraged and welcomed?

Yep. Same as the current board fucking things up doesn't excuse the mess the old lot made in the end. It's like an oncologist consultant roaming the wards saying, "we've seen worse forms of cancer," - doesn't really help all that much.

Indeed. Seems a particularly odd plea to be making to the fans. Bit like Del Boy in the street market, hawking some dodgy Russian mobile phones the size of bricks and shouting that "they work perfectly well, so long as you don't need to make a phone call". Mental.

Disappeared round about the same time as Invicta Toon got his ban from both TT & here.

He didn't buy Titus though - Chris Hutchings did. And according to Wigan fans, Bramble has been one of their best players this season - maybe that is down to Bruce. He did drop him last season when he was making mistakes. Butt admittedly did not do well at Brum. Butt was suffering a crisis of self-confidence whilst at Brum. He was dealing with the shock of no longer being a Man Utd lynchpin. Phil Neville suffered a similar dip in form immediately upon joining Everton as well, iirc.

Would rather we sign Juan Sebastien Veron.

I can just imagine Joe being trundled into the operating theatre on the trolley, eyes half shut and drowsy under the anaesthetic, asking: "Now which one's the fucking surgeon...you're a c..."

The silence is worrying My thoughts as well But then again they say No news is Good news No Joe news is good news.

How much we have fallen?! Seems to me more like it's a case of people gradually getting a bit more in touch with reality than "how much we have fallen" - but I suspect the fact the man's native to the area (plastic Geordie or whatever) has more to do with people coming round to the idea of him as manager than anything about his managerial credentials or capabilities. And that last point concerns me more than anything.

Surely the only point of restaging it would be so we could actually win the fucking title? Big bag of retrospective, backwards-looking, sentimental "stuck-in-a-moment-you-can't-get-out-of" bollocks.

"Get Bent"? We probably will.