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Tino for Fabian Schar please. 

3 minutes ago, Pata said:

Schär looks arrogant today.

Guy has completely rattled the whole back line with his foolishness.

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Dwell dwell dwell give it to Jamaal under pressure. 

Been doing the same thing all game. Idiotic.

Schar continues to dwell on the ball invite them on then pass sideways or backwards for them to press us. Stop giving him the ball.

Great play from Miggy again, but messed the final ball up that time. My goodness.

Just now, Wilson said:

 

Not sure what's going on with him at the minute.

 

 

Acting as if he's mucking about in the back garden with his kids. Been a joke.

Schar losing the ball out of bounds casually for no reason leads to that.

4 minutes ago, toontownman said:

What is Schar on today

Been pissing me off all game. Been so casual and nonchalant.

Really appreciate Miggy's coming in and raising the energy. If he can do that coming off the bench that would be great in the future.

Schar is fucking ridiculous.

That was all Almiron.

Fantastic run, great composure and pinpoint pass.

Well done Miggy!!!

Fabian Schar just continuing  to play terrible passes into midfield.

Just now, timeEd32 said:

 

Multiple likes 

It's been clear for ages a number of them feel that way.

1 minute ago, ChrisMcQuillan said:

If Howe was sacked in the morning, I honestly wouldn't have any complaints.

Finally you have just come out and said it instead of pretending otherwise.

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Bruno not much better either 

Got no one around him doing anything.

Schar and Trippier in particular so slow and indecisive playing out from the back and it's completely hampering things.

Schar, Trippier, Longstaff have been slow and ponderous on the ball and then just hoof it. All three been shocking.

Just now, STM said:

Schar again hoooof. Some cowardly stuff.

What the hell is he doing?

Fabian Schar has lost his mind the last couple of games.

14 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

You could be right. I suppose what this conversation confirms is that there's a definite loss of confidence in Eddie from me, given some of the things we've witnessed this season. I remember under Rafa, I just trusted absolutely in everything he did because he consistently made silk purses out of piles of shit and seemed to have a tactical answer for everything. Last season I felt the same about Eddie, but that confidence has definitely eroded a bit. Hopefully it comes back next season.

Rafa by nature is a more structured, rigid and defensive minded manager, which is an approach that likely would indeed have worked better to grind out results with lesser quality players available.

Howe more wants to pressure the opposition and take things to them by nature, and is seemingly looking for solutions to the current situation that still incorporates some of that, rather than consolidating completely. 

Maybe Howe eventually incorporates more of a defensive setup during these kind of moments or comes up with some other approach, as he does continuously look to grow, I'm just fine with letting him work through it.

9 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

It all sounds so simple.

When Bruce was stinking at Newcastle why didn't he just change setting?

When Pardew was stinking at Newcastle why didn't he just change setting?

When Kinnear was stinking at Newcastle why didn't he just change setting?

 

Why do we criticise managers ever? Being a manager is not easy!

 

By the way I wouldn't want Mourinho near our club. He's way past his prime.

Ultimately every fan base complains about their manager's decision making and team selections.

And so ultimately, what is the manager's ethos, how do they handle themselves, what are their signings like, how do the players respond to them, are they ultimately worth getting behind?

I just don't understand how anyone is uncertain on Howe already, and making out he's not up to it, due to his first tough period at the club under difficult circumstances. It is baffling.

5 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

Perhaps they couldn't, and that ultimately led to their demises. Maybe they reached the limit of what they were capable of with the groups of players they had.

Maybe the same is true of Eddie. Who knows?!  Maybe he is literally a one setting manager.

 

What you've described in your post is the various different ways we've tried to implement setting 1. Even when we were down to bare bones, we still had the pace and the players available to play an effective counter-attacking style, which we didn't do even once. Instead, we further rinsed the players we had trying to play high intensity front foot for 90 minutes.

 

 

 

 

 

The problem is though we don't know the extent to which these alternative approaches have been explored in training, and whether the current players available were deemed to be better off persisting with the current approach, with the more minor tweaks Howe has tried here and there.

There is no certainty that a change in formation, or a more defensive and counter attacking approach suddenly cures all ills.

I think some of us just have more faith in the manager and his decision making and are fine to let him work through this tough period, while others seemingly see it as evidence he is not up to the task, which in my opinion is incredibly shortsighted.

2 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

 

 

Liverpool had spells like this last season, with nowhere near the issues we've had. Should they have sacked Klopp off? 

How quickly everyone forgets man. It's just sad really.

Making out even the top managers don't have ropey moments.

22 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

You're probably spot on with that, but isn't it the manager's job to find a way around it? For me, some of the criticism of Eddie is way over the top, but some of it is warranted.

 

One of the frustrating narratives is that he can't do anything about it when it's literally his job to do something about it. Who is it setting the midfield up to push so far forward? Who is it deciding not to play one of the midfielders deeper? Who is it not experimenting with different formations, shapes and systems to negate our weaknesses? Who persisted with probably the slowest outfield player in the PL game after game, when he was getting torn to shreds after the pedestrian midfield was bypassed?

 

You can't say it's down to the midfield and absolve Eddie of blame, when he sets up the midfield. It's like we're stuck on one setting and people are defending Eddie by saying we don't have the right players to play that setting, so what do you expect?! Honestly, I expect us to be able to change setting. 

 

 

 

It all sounds so simple.

So when Mourinho was stinking at Spurs why didn't he just change setting? 

When Conte was stinking at Spurs why couldn't he just change setting?

These are the elite managers we should be after right? Why couldn't they both just figure it out, even without an injury crisis?

12 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

I'm sure you could make an argument for every team in the league to have strengths against us. Does Luton and Bournemouth not have weaknesses of their own? Weaknesses is something that you try to compensate for tactically. For example, our defence was struggling with pace against Luton while Livra was on the bench.

 

Now that the fatiguer factor is gone, we have to find new excuses it seems.

 

 

 

Yeah, it's all just excuses. Fine. 

3 minutes ago, Rod said:

"He is probably a better manager than Bruce"!  Words fail me.

I'm completely floored man ... I mean, how can anyone see things this way. What is the point of even following the sport? This is just sad.