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6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

No, that is definitely how it always works.  A budget of £100m means the total value of the players brought in, not the size of the available down payments.  The down payments wouldn’t make sense, given that if you did so you’d then have to calculate that window’s budget all of the payment installations from previous transfers.

It’s about purchase power as much as owt else.  How much of a revenue making monster you are.  And we’re still a long way off even Spurs - even with finishing third and CL qualification next season.  That’s why we don’t have £150m+ to spend in the summer - our turnover is still dwarfed by a struggling Spurs.  Spurs have roughly three times our match day revenues, and roughly the same multiplier against commercial income.  There’s a long way to go yet. 

That is all taken into account before any budgets are set.

4 minutes ago, toon25 said:

Anyone that's watching the Juve-Milan match...That Juve kit is dreadful 

I've got it on too. The kit is a disgrace

Tell you what though ... this Moise Kean has so much to work with man. I hope he lands somewhere that he can settle properly and be given a chance to lead the line. So much raw talent.

18 minutes ago, Sempiternal said:

Eze has 10/4. And previous to this season his highest was 4/1.

 

 

 

Eze hasn't started as consistently as Barnes has to be fair.

2 minutes ago, STM said:

 

It has been utterly bizarre. Edwards saying 50m budget last summer or whatever.

 

I think it's pure guesswork.

Yeah, seems I've been giving them way too much credit by assuming they were quoting those figures based on the actual outlay we'd be shelling out upfront.

1 minute ago, SteV said:

If anyone is quoting our budget in terms instalment payments, they’d have factor in what we already owe for previous signings. 
 

So if they were saying £100m, about £20/£25m would already be accounted for.

I think typically what is still owed each year, is taken into account before then determining the transfer budget for that year.

So for example, before the club would have set this summer's budget, they would have already determined and taken into account what we need to pay out this year from previous deals first.

1 minute ago, STM said:

 

Just to clear, I'm not disputing the method of payments for transfers.

 

What I'm saying is that NOBODY when talking about a transfer budget, especially when it comes to the press, talks about transfer budgets in this way.

 

For example we signed Pope for 12m over 4 payments (if I remember correctly) but for the purpose of "transfer budget speculation/talk" nobody says we spent 3m on Pope last summer.

 

When a journalist says "a budget of x million" they mean a budget of x million, not a budget of x million in first installments.

 

I'm talking football transfer parlance here.

That's interesting man. Every time budgets are mentioned I've never looked at it as taking total fees into account, because the figures always seemed too small then.

I mean they wouldn't even make sense if that was the case. And so if that's what the press are actually doing then it's pretty bizarre.

1 minute ago, Sempiternal said:

Got 10 the season before, but Vardy is finished and the other two are not very good 

10 the season before is a much better number, and so I'd hope for those kind of numbers if he signed, which like I said I wouldn't mind.

Not really with the narrative that those three strikers are the cause though. The likes of Harrison and Eze have had far less to work with upfront and put up better numbers.

1 minute ago, STM said:

 

Well im telling you that's what's being suggested.

 

When a journalist puts a figure out, whether it be 50m, 100m or whatever, they are talking about transfer fees, not amortisation or any other magical bollocks.

 

I understand how that stuff works (kind of) but that's not what's being discussed here.

How can you be so sure that's what they are suggesting out of interest?

Also, it's nothing magical. Most transfer fees paid for players are spread out over a number of years, rather than the selling team getting the full money upfront, and so say we buy a £50 million player this summer, it may well be just an initial £15 million we pay from this year's budget, with the remainder split over another three years or whatever.

Just now, Sempiternal said:

He could get more assists but I mean who are their strikers? The ghost of Jamie Vardy, Ihenacho, Daka. Hardly a stellar set of options 

Those are three strikers good enough for him to get more than 1 assist. 1 assist is pretty difficult to achieve as a starting winger.

18 minutes ago, Sempiternal said:

13 in fact, one less than Saka. 

Barnes has talent but he tends to be a heads down type that misses a lot of opportunities to set others up.

Think he's ended the season with just one assist, which is somewhat criminal when you consider the attacking players on that Leicester team.

I wouldn't complain if we did sign him though. He's still a threat. I would like someone a bit classier and well rounded though.

1 minute ago, STM said:

 

That's not what is being suggested and you know it...

 

They are suggesting a 100m outlay on transfer fees. I'd be shocked if its below 150m.

No, I don't know it. That's how I've always looked at the budgets, because that's how they work.

9 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I know people don’t agree, but every time I watch Leeds, Harrison looks like their best player. 

 

 

 

We pursued him a fair bit last season, and now Leeds have been relegated.

Maybe his name pops back up again.

Transfer fees are not paid all at once.

A lot of them are at most £10 - £15 million upfront.

A £100 million budget would be pretty substantial.

Thought Man City would play a stronger team today to try and get some rhythm in a competitive game ahead of their two finals.

Will be interesting to see if they end up stating slow and a bit out of sorts next weekend.

Lucas Moura with an incredible goal to seal Fat Sams big disgrace.

8 minutes ago, Mattoon said:

Southampton winning

That Sulemana was really highly rated in France. 

Doing really well today for them. Probably earned himself a quick move out of there once the season is over.

What a final impression Miggy is leaving going into the summer.

Ashworth must be making calls for right side options as we speak, which is probably for the best.

Awoniyi has scored yet again today I see. Not bad for an 'awful' striker.

1 minute ago, Erikse said:

Trippier has been so shit today...

His defending has left a lot to be desired for a fair bit now. 

He's played way too many games this season though, especially at his age.

Mitrovic you big dummy.

1 minute ago, Displayname said:

Fulham pen!

Casemiro 

1 minute ago, Ikon said:

Odd…

 

Im pretty sure everyone will be happy if he succeeds. Personally I have never written him off. 

Sir, I mentioned no names. All I know is it's going to be very very funny.

4 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Should be a few on suicide watch with that goal.

It's going to be so much fun the better he gets.

Well well welll ... and so it begins. This is going to be a lot of fun   

Fat Sam going down