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2 minutes ago, Ben said:

Totally agree with this I thought Wilsons performance against Arsenal at home last season was one of the best I have seen from a center forward at Newcastle for years 

 

Yeah man, love Wilson's presence on the pitch so much more, and he just makes defenders lives so much more difficult in general, and is very savvy. DCL is more of a threat in the air, and that's it really.

2 minutes ago, Big River said:

 

genuinely can't wait to see what that looks like. biggest fraud going ol' Lamps.

Thing is though, there are some decent players out there, and if they generate some funds he could fluke it, which would be super annoying. But agree it's going to be really interesting!

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Find the DCL thing weird.

He's had 1 bad year of injuries. Shearer did his ACL, ankle and had other injuries that meant he had 3/4 seasons of less than 30 PL appearances.

 

DCL hardly has a Sturridge like injury record

It's not just the injuries, think people just don't really fancy his game. Especially not for the prices being quoted.

If he was going into the last year of his contract and was available for £20 million or something like that, then yeah, okay. At £40million + though, no thanks.

5 minutes ago, LFEE said:

DCL makes little sense as Wilson is a much better CF. Is it not his agent trying to get him a new contract?

Honestly, I think it is Everton trying to generate some interest in both he and Richarlison.

With the Russia issue and therefore Usmanov gone, think they will have nothing to spend, unless they shift those two, so Frank can build his own team.

17 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

The "100% fit" part isn't irrelevant though, it has to be factored in. It's the main reason we're even considering a replacement for Wilson.

 

Since he broke into the team DCL has played 32, 35, 36, 33 then 17 PL games (153). Wilson's last five seasons - 28, 30, 35, 26, 18 (137). Wilson has missed 35 games since he joined, DCL has missed 21 in the same time. He's also 5 years younger. 

 

I guess it breaks down to whether last season was an anomaly for DCL or whether that's just the player he is now. If it's the latter then yeah, aside from being younger you're not gaining a huge amount versus Wilson. But if you get 2019/20 and 2020/21 Calvert-Lewin at 25y/o then £40m or so represents very good value imo. 

DCL is decent, but for upwards of £40 million, I'd rather go for one of the slightly younger talents on the continent we've been linked with e.g. Scamacca, Gouiri, Jonathan David etc Think they are more technical, and just have a bit more to their games, and likely won't cost as much.

As I even stated earlier, if it's down to DCL at upwards of £40 million or Kean at around £25 million, even with the discipline issues, I'd go with Kean. Think he's got far more upside and is really undervalued right now.

23 minutes ago, Manxst said:

 

Got dropped by Italy because of off field discipline issues and not turning up for training on time etc. Same problems at Everton. He’s played 42 times for Juve this year and scored 6- hardly ‘never used him’. Juve bought Vlahovic because they couldn’t rely on Kean, either to score the goals, or to rectify his attitude. 

Moise Kean started 14 games while on loan at Juve ... in those games he totalled 6 goals. The rest of the games he was brought off the bench and in a lot of those games for less than 10 mins of play. Vlahovic came in and started 20 games and scored 9 goals. The numbers are comparable.

I see he has been disciplined for being late at times. Fair enough. Wouldn't say that necessarily makes  him a bad egg, as the other poster was asking about. 

Arsenal close to wrapping up a deal for Raphinha. Did not see that coming.

If they add Raphinha and Jesus that would be pretty impressive.

8 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

For some reason I thought he had unfulfilled potential (so far) down to bad attitude & application.

Nah, just been managed terribly by Everton and then Juve this season.

Had a very good showing at PSG on loan the previous season, and then Juve brought him in and never used him because they went and bought Vlahovic, who's struggled himself.

Still so young at just 22. Think he's a really top talent.

3 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

Is he not a bad egg?

Don't think there's been anything particularly major has there? Some silly stuff during lockdown where he had a party, but think that was it. Was just doing the same as what the lot that put us all in lockdown were.

I'd genuinely rather sign Moise Kean off them and let Howe work with him, than bring in DCL for the kind of money being spoken about. Kean is available for around £20 million.

Both 100% fit, Wilson is the better striker for me personally. Everyday of the week.

3 hours ago, The Prophet said:

 

Actual article says that they are looking to get bigger fees for both Sanches and Botman from PSG. No mention of us.

8 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

He’s 25 though.

50 minutes ago, Consortium of one said:

Don't know why every player has to be painted with a broad brush, ie: Don't want players from X.  It has to be much more nuanced than that.  How old?  What style/tactics did his team play?  Will his skills transfer to how we play? On and on.  That is why we have scouts and other evaluators.  Identify a pool of players that fit our needs and winnow it down to players who become targets.  If you see a player that has skills that you can use who cares where they came from?

 

 

 

Absolutely man. I think it should be a point of emphasis as a remit for the scouting team to try and identify talents that are being stifled due to the circumstances they are in, and who could potentially flourish in different conditions.

Liverpool are probably the best right now at bringing all sorts of players in. Big money signings, young talents, players from mid table clubs, players from relegated clubs... everything, and they all contribute. I already talked about Robertson and Wijnaldum from relegated teams, but even the Jota signing was exceptional, as at the time although he was solid for Wolves, no one really anticipated that he would be so much more dangerous for Liverpool, but they saw something in him that they felt would translate to their system.

45 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Well it could be the agent's fees or the player himself is holding out. It doesn't really say in the article.

Tron did you even read the article ?

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The belief is that Ekitike's agent is yet to pull the trigger on the move as payments over their services have yet to be ironed out, with the striker himself not understood to be responsible for any of the hold-up.

https://www.90min.com/posts/newcastle-growing-frustrated-with-delays-hugo-ekitike-deal

21 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Pretty funny now to be fair ?

 

 

This article seems the most feasible I think. 

Sounds like everything is agreed and it's down to agent fees being haggled over.

20 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Where does Sarr feature? Lots of shit performance in yellow.

He's 28th with 1.5 successful dribbles per game.

In comparison the top 5 are:

St. Maximin - 4.3

Adama Traore - 4.2

Luis Diaz and Dwight McNeil - 2.4

Wilfred Zaha - 2.3

Joao Pedro - 2.2

3 minutes ago, arnonel said:

Maxi with more key passes than Pogba

Yeah, that was interesting. McNeil too had more key passes than him.

With all the recent Dwight McNeil talk, thought it was interesting where he ranks in the successful dribbles per game scale on this chart.

Also, as infuriating and frustrating as it would inevitably be, this chart shows just how outrageous it would be having Max on the left and Traore on the right from a dribbling perspective. Non stop highlight reels.

That Spurs Express twitter is shocking like. They just throw every name out there.

44 minutes ago, Smal said:

I don’t really get it. You can’t sign players under 18 from abroad anymore, can you? We’d be paying £20m for him to stay there the next couple of years.

Yes, that's what one of the reports I read said.

We'd be paying to secure his transfer once he turns 18. Now, you'd imagine if we are doing that it will probably be £2 million fee now another £2 million next year, and the rest once he comes over, or something along those lines.

6 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

A few sources have now said his agent has been hawking him about now.

 

The Reims president claimed we'd agreed a fee weeks ago, so there's definetly something slowing it down, whether that's his agent or just that he was playing in the Toulon tournament who knows.

 

The RMC article says we've already started to look at alternatives, which would make sense if the above is correct.

 

We were just yesterday linked with the young Benfica prospect Goncalo Ramos who is really promising as well, and is a similar player.

Also as @Nucasol says, we have also previously scouted the young PSG striker that tore it up at Lens last season, and so maybe he's a possibility too.

I get the feeling Ekitike's agent wants to get him to PSG as they will likely throw more money at him in agents fees. Think the kid may be getting bad advice. Sucks for him, but more than happy to move on. There some other really good young strikers out there.

Ah, right. Fair enough, if we haven't even agreed a fee yet then.

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

I think a lot will also depend on the 2 deals we are currently trying to do as well. Botman in particular seems quite pricey whereas some of the fall back options mentioned are seemingly a lot cheaper.

Yeah for sure. We've started by aiming for the higher end players, but we may end up not landing all of those, and so will then have a bit more money to play with.

If we do land all of those higher end guys though, then yeah, I would expect we would then be quite conservative with bringing in any additional players to freshen up our backup options like you said.

Just now, Dr.Spaceman said:

Leeds minus Raphina and Phillips for the entire season will be interesting. Might stick something on Marsch being the first to go.

I like the signings they've been making and I think they may end up being alright. If they get a bunch of money from selling those two, think they'll continue adding some decent players.