KaKa

I like Anderson. Hope he gets a chance to play more there and develop. 

Had to be a tough calls for the club. Really wish it would have been Longstaff instead.

53 minutes ago, Collage said:

His point is that Elanga scored/assisted more than any Man U player. Wtf has Chris Wood to do with it?

He's on the wind up man 

2 hours ago, Froggy said:

Be buzzing if you lot signed Elanga like. Guy isn't even as good as Almiron. 

6 minutes ago, STM said:

I keep thinking.... wouldn't it be mental if TCD and KaKa were actually the same person arguing with themselves. Would be some proper freaky psycho shit. 

I'm just trying to understand man 

Anyways, perhaps it's gone on too much for today.

Really looking forward to seeing how the team shapes up over the summer now and how it looks next season. 

Watching Minteh will also be incredibly fascinating.

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

No you didn’t.  You spoke about PSR. 

 

We might need to sell Bruno next summer for PSR reasons. It won’t be because we don’t need him or think we can do better. 
 

Eddie Howe himself said he didn’t want to sell ASM for football reasons but cos of FFP we needed to sell. Thats easy enough for him, why can’t you say it? 
 

This back and forth is in bad faith from you. Enjoy your evening. 

Ah, okay. I see what you're getting at now.

So I'll put it this way then. If the player was more likely to go out on loan, rather than be a contributor to the first team next season, then would that not be a sale for footballing reasons? Compared to the other saleable assets he's last in the pecking order, as he is not currently a contributor to the first team.

These decisions are all being made with the back drop of PSR, and so don't think that can just be swept under the rug as if it is not a factor.

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Agreed. As we stand this is the best scenario.  But this should’ve been managed better from get-go. 
 

You didn’t answer my question. Do you think the club are buying selling hi for footballing reasons? 
 

Obviously the club are fine with selling him for PSR reasons- that is what they are doing. It’s better than the alternatives. If we had to sell Gordon or take a points deduction the club would also be  fine with that. That doesn’t make it an optimal decision.  

I did answer your question.

Whether we like it or not PSR is a part of football currently.

You can't just separate it out for your convenience as it has implications for how we are able to progress on the pitch going forward.

2 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

We don't challenge for Europe next season, isak Gordon and Bruno will be off.

It's certainly what I'd expect to start happening. Definitely at least one of them.

2 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said:

The sad brutal reality is - Brighton are buying him with a mind to selling him for a profit themselves

(they'll be lauded for doing the exact same thing in that event)

They also have the luxury of sitting in mid table and playing all these guys to raise their value.

We are trying to push and challenge at the top. We do not have this luxury.

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Do you think the people at the club want to sell him for football reasons? What do you think of Brightons recruitment approach?

 

I’m not sold on Minteh becoming a world beater. I’m sold that the underlying data for Minteh suggests that he’s one of the most promising teenage wingers in Europe. I think the evidence pointed out high potential when he was in scandi and we paid a pretty penny at the time to take the risk. The evidence points again that the kid is a problem which is why several clubs are willing to spend £30m on a teenager with 1 season in the Eredivisie. Including the smartest operators in the premier league Brighton. 
 

I think people at the club are fine with selling him for PSR reasons, because footballing wise he was more likely to go out again on loan next season.

Brighton's strategy is not to challenge for a top four position and Champions League place, and does not see them sign players like Isak and Tonali.

He might well be a promising teenager, but at this point of the clubs progression, it is more important to continue to build the first team with more experience and ready to play first team contributors, as we are still short there.

And so if that means letting a promising teenager go for now, until we get further along in our restructure, then that's just what it is going to have to be for now.

10 minutes ago, Ritchies Furrowed Brow said:

Oh aye.  The fact he has gone to Brighton makes me a little nervous that he is going to be baller (they don't get much wrong).  If he is the second coming of Messi I will be sick.

Wow ...

So who are the stars that have come through at Brighton exactly.

Even with Caicedo all I saw was people saying he was overrated and never worth what Chelsea paid for him on here. And he's hardly been revolutionary for them.

And so who are these examples that should have us so worried about Brighton's expertise?

4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

They sold Palmer becaus they couldn’t guarantee his minutes so Palmer wanted to leave. And I think they probably regret it. 
 

Ferram Torres, James Trafford, Douglas Luiz, Edozie, Bazunu- not good enough. That’s the Real Madrid model.  
 

I don’t mean Minteh will be as good as Foden. City sell youngsters because they will not be good enough for City or the youngster wants to leave and play.  If the kids want to stay and they rate the kid - they’ll keep him. That’s Rico Lewis and Phil Foden. 
 

We aren’t selling Minteh because we don  think he’s good enough so we’ll take the money. Man City have never sold a player for FFP violation reasons - they’ll break the rules before they do that (allegedly). 

How can you possibly know what the people at the club actually think about Minteh?

There's literally people on the Feyenoord forum calling the guy a headless chicken. We're not talking about a player even all of their fans are all raving about here.

This is pretty strange man. I'm just not sure how you can be so sold on this guy becoming a world beater.

13 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

Would it be possible for you to stop being such a condescending prick, or is that too much to ask..?

You need to ask me really nicely.

7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Not yet. I think Minteh has the potential to be a 60m+ RW and we’re selling him for £33m now because PSR is forcing us. Brighton think the same.  That’s shit on our end. 
 

I don’t think we are selling him because we want to. Do you ?

So if he's not yet good enough, then why were you talking about having to spend on a right winger because we are selling him?

Would we not then be doing that anyway if we kept him, as he isn't yet good enough?

Also, his higher potential is the reason we are getting the fee we are, and so that is a factor already. Just because he might be worth more in the future that doesn't mean we get that type of money now. 

We are selling him now because he is not likely to be ready to start and we are already planning to bring in such a player on the right, and so he's been sold due to PSR.

7 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

Yeah, City have just rafts of talent, a conveyor belt of £20m+ youngsters who’ll see them (cough) clear of FFP issues forever. That’s where we want to be. Look at Palmer, very very good but they let him go. If that was us we’d be beside ourselves but they’re used to it and we probably will also have to get used to it. 

You have to remember though, that Palmer asked to leave, because he didn't believe he was getting enough of an opportunity.

Man City also spent a lot of money bringing in players, by circumventing the rules with dodgy sponsorship deals, and haven't been as interested in bringing their prospects through.

I'm not at all convinced this will be our approach. They overlooked a quality player in Palmer that ended up being good enough to play for them.

13 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

He’s the most talented RW we have in the squad. His ceiling is a £60m+ player in the weakest position we have in the squad. We could’ve sorted our weakest position in the squad with a £8m transfer. Instead we are likely to sell another player to fund a £30m+ RW that will be a significant FFP burden for another 4-5 years. Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul type stuff. 
 

 

It’s the best result all things considered. But it does suck.  Had we sold a player we were happy to sell, everyone would be happy. If Minteh was a CM, less people would care. We have lots of options there. We don’t at RW. 

Wait, so you think Minteh was the answer on our right side? You are that convinced of him already?

40 minutes ago, gbandit said:

£33m, cheap in one sense if he fulfils his potential but whatever, let’s just get it over with 

£33 million is what we paid for the likes of Bruno and Botman ... it is not cheap. 

If they can develop him further and reap the benefits then kudos to them.

No different from us putting Bruno in position to thrive and more than triple in value compared to what we paid.

We're not going to be the ones benefitting all the time.

1 minute ago, Dokko said:

It's amazing how many people have been hoodwinked by the club into thinking this is a good idea. 

 

One of europes hottest properties sold without a game played so we could overspend on players like Barnes. Tragic in every sense. 

You are definitely trolling man, a number of you have to be 

7 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

Probably in the future when this becomes the norm, filling up our academy with players who are there solely to make us a profit with no actual view of them playing for us, then it won’t be so gut wrenching.
 

This isn’t the norm for us, we’re not used to it. We get good players and hold onto them like precious diamonds. You sign for us, you’re one of us. This just feels cold and alien.

 

£33m is a very good price. We’ve made back more than 5x what we paid for him. I can stomach watching him tear it up at Brighton if bring in the 2-3 we need to push on. Anyway I hate this, I hate football and I hate June. July comes around and we’re going for it. 

I think the aim is to have a thriving academy with quality players coming through. 

Those good enough to impact the first team will be brought through, and those that aren't, should hopefully then still get us a fee from other clubs.

I don't think we'll be as crass as the likes of Chelsea with this whole model. They are spending insane amounts of money on players, and don't really have the patience to bring through players and so it's a different mindset with them.

We're very early into the restructuring of the club and had to spend loads to play catch-up just after the takeover. At the same time there are hardly any assets we can move to make money, and the financial deals are still being built up. That's the main reason we've had to move Minteh.

4 minutes ago, duo said:

No 

Wait a minute ... Never mind!

You weren't being serious then! I knew it!

Just now, duo said:

Cheers

Wait, you were joking right? I thought it was funny is all.

Were you actually being serious?! 

1 minute ago, duo said:

obviously pleased it's not Gordon or Isak leaving but this sucks - was excited to see him playing next season. Also means another season of Almiron on the right.

There's something seriously wrong with you   

Seen some fans of other clubs saying we colluded with Brighton, as the fee is too high 

All the Chelsea and Liverpool fans that thought they were in with a shot of getting Isak or Gordon I presume 

2 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

Had the last couple of days told you nothing? We haven't got any fucking money.

 

I mean our owners are stinking rich and desperate to spend, but we're up against what the big boys allow us to spend. The pot is empty.

Still you don't understand what the need to sell was about?! 

My God man! Try another sport for goodness sake!

1 minute ago, Keegans Export said:

 

 

 

Woah ... that is a really decent fee. Solid work from the scrambling incompetents at the club, to be fair!

This is probably fitting Minteh ending up at Brighton.

Knowing that snake Ashworth he's probably recommended him off the back of some spreadsheet of targets he's copied off their system before he joined us!