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Not sure ASM will get much joy v lamptey, he looked rapid against chelsea

More concerned about Lewis defending against Lamptey getting forward. Going to be a good test for him.

Son is lethal man. Fantastic finisher.

if he played for the other side they'd be up by 4 goals.

Ndombele hauled off

Thought he was their most inventive midfielder in the first half.

Sensational play from Ndombele. Great finish Son.

Oh dear Spurs ... must be Dele's fault 

 

He has done nothing in what feels like years like

Keeping him out of this Spurs team and specifically midfield is a joke though

Despite being in and out of the team last season he also still managed 8 goals and 6 assists in the league.

I like Mourinho, but this playing style of Spurs (or lack of) is pretty terrible. That said I don't think their squad is good enough either, but certainly should be controlling the ball and looking more competent than they currently do. Their central midfield is poor, Winks/Hojbjerg is bottom half standard and the defensive 5 isn't much better.

Their playing a team with 2 in midfield in Ward-Prowse and Romeu and they're still being given the run around.

Mourinho is making a mess of things. Doesn't have the whipping boy Alli to blame for everything today too. He'll be hoping for a dodgy refereeing decision to blame it on.

That first touch from Ings. Beautiful.

Great ball from Walker-Peters.

Oh dear Spurs ... must be Dele's fault 

Hope he goes there and does really well, especially in the champions league. That would be really funny.

you sound ridiculous man. I never even used that phrase.

And it's not because I think anything. It's because the scouts rated him very highly, we paid £40 million for him, and a far better manager than Bruce valued and used him in a much better team than ours.

Why is this so hard to fathom or understand. It's embarrassing.

In any case, everyone has completely given up on him, so just get rid, and end this drivel.

Bruce would have dropped him for running around less than the goalie, like he binned Ben Arfa for.

 

To be fair, under Bruce he'd start the attacking phase in his own half box and would be required to sprint.

Very true!

Bruce would have dropped him for running around less than the goalie, like he binned Ben Arfa for.

Am I the only one that likes Winks? He’s not world class but he keeps things ticking.

Yeah, he's alright. Not sure he fits in a Mourinho team though.

Where's Dele Alli going to end up then?

Think Leicester would be a nice fit.

At least he's finally being honest about his preferred approach.

This is the manager they brought in, so let him get on with it.

Just stop with the scouting team using analytics to suggest all these players from other leagues that don't fit.

Starting with that under sized Peruvian playmaker they've been talking about recently.

Just get Chambers instead. Looks pretty similar.

His current value under Bruce and Newcastle, yes, absolutely.

Quotes from Bruce saying Almiron will need to adapt to 442 so I guess that’s our system for this year

Yup, he's building the team around Carroll.

Ok, so let's take your example. He should play behind a striker.

 

What I'd like from a player in that position:

 

Someone who can control the ball in tight areas.

Someone that makes clever runs for his teammates.

Someone that can feed wide players with intelligent balls.

Someone that can finish to a decent standard and chip in with 10 or more goals.

 

Sounds perfect for Joelinton... who possesses none of those qualities.

 

I presume when eventually gets shipped back to Germany or whoever will take him, he will be tearing places up in the number 10 role?

 

I asked this - I assume if a bid of 5-10m comes in they would accept - weird that no German teams are taking a punt when he was storming the league though.

I imagine he'll get a move back there eventually.

His stock is continuing to plummet though, so they'll just wait until he's available for peanuts on loan and then force Newcastle to pay the majority of his wages too.

Haller has had injuries and quite bad ones at that whilst at West Ham, he has also shown he can at least find the net.

 

What the fuck has Joe shown?

 

There was a match where he was one on one with the keeper and he missed the ball and it just trickled in front of him - it was fucking tragic.

 

I get what you're saying about the manager, but this guy cannot even do the basics right..

 

Haller is not struggling with Injuries. He has been benched. Stop it

 

West Ham United could be boosted by the return of record signing Sebastien Haller to the squad that faces Burnley tonight.

 

West Ham have been without the Frenchman in all four games since the restart due to an injury.

 

??

As I said Haller scored 5 before January. Moyes came in and the goals dried up, and he got benched. Scoring 2 the rest of the way. He has been used off the bench so far this season again.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sebastien-haller/leistungsdaten/spieler/181375/plus/0?saison=2019

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sebastien-haller/leistungsdaten/spieler/181375/plus/0?saison=2020

Moyes is terrible. As is Bruce. Or to be more fair they are just very basic or simple managers. They can do well with a specific type of player.

 

I've always said these managers should just be given more rudimentary and direct players with power and pace. That is their bread and butter.

 

It's why ASM will always look good for us no matter what. It's why Antonio performs in Moyes' setup too.

 

Any kind of player that requires any additional thought or tactical setup to get the best out of should not be given to these types of managers. We've already seen what Lanzini and Felipe Anderson can produce in this league, but no, not good enough for Moyes.

 

I just don't want to hear about players being crap under these jokers who haven't got a clue what they're doing.

 

I agree with most of that. It's the last paragraph I take issue with.

 

No manager is going make Joelinton look good because...hes not very good. You cannot polish a turd.

 

I could understand if he showed glimpses, or played some neat football but I've actually watched him with my eyes. He refuses opportunities to shoot, when he does shoot he either misses or has a tame shot. He never takes the ball past a player or creates something or is that not his game? What is his game, I have yet to recieve an answer?

 

Whoever said he was comparable to Firmino wants a bullet to the skull.

 

 

It’s quite the logical fallacy. Shit managers don’t often get the best out of good players. Bruce is a shit manager. Joelinton isn’t playing well, therefore he is a good player being mismanaged.

 

And if only it would end there. No, said player needs to be accomodated with the team apparently built around him, at the expense of better players who do manage to perform in this shit setup.

 

I’m all for replacing Bruce with a competent manager, and I would love to see Joelinton come good for us, but sadly at this stage both look as likely as Ashley leaving anytime soon, so here we are. Shit owner, shit manager, shit 40m forward.

 

 

Yes, he should leave the club.

And just to clarify no one said the team should be built around him.

All that was said is that at some point, whether due to resting others or rotation etc, at some point he should get a chance to play with Wilson and the rest of the first team, where we can sometimes look half capable.

At this point though, it is all just a farce and utterly pointless.

He's not enjoying his football any more than the fans. Understandably as he's had a torrid time. I can't ever see him rekindling any joy under Bruce.

The season has started and he is now being used in the Carabao cup as the lone lump upfront, in teams with Barlaser and Longstaff in midfield and 30% possession. From the champions league with Nagelsmann to this. They just put the guy out of his misery and send him out somewhere.

Honestly, I don't even know how I got stuck sticking up for the guy so much. I think it just really irked me seeing how bad we played last season with this guy getting all the blame. It was ridiculous.

Haller has had injuries and quite bad ones at that whilst at West Ham, he has also shown he can at least find the net.

 

What the fuck has Joe shown?

 

There was a match where he was one on one with the keeper and he missed the ball and it just trickled in front of him - it was fucking tragic.

 

I get what you're saying about the manager, but this guy cannot even do the basics right..

Haller is not struggling with Injuries. He has been benched. Stop it

ASM looks good because he's a fantastic footballer. He's not some dumb brute and Joelinton some complex tactical enigma.

You're entitled to your opinion man