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Who was it I bet we would finish 6 pts or more above 18th and Bruce and Ashley to both be here come August?

 

With the impending arrival of choudory and ASM back I’m very confident on winning that!

A lot of people have forgotten how bad ASM was looking prior to getting injured, just because he came on and ran around a bit against an open Leeds team.

Go back to the ASM thread and read up on how he was being labelled as lazy and not having enough end product just before he got injured.

Most teams at the time were just doubling up on him as they knew he was all we had, and it will be the same again this time around.

IF Ashley was so close to sacking him that he offered him to resign and he rejected, Ashley would sack him anyway and make him fight for his money after the fact, especially if a takeover is on the horizon.

 

His pay off is fuck all, any loan deal coming in will cost more. We paid £5m to loan Kennedy for a season after paying £1.8m for 4 months the season earlier. Couple of million max, or risk relegation and £350m...hmmm...tough decision.

 

My opinion is that Ashley thinks this is just form and a couple of loans will pull it back on track, especially with a decent points gap, and that is more worrying.

 

 

I think MA wanting him to resign is more to save face. Then the blame can be on the nasty Newcastle fans that made Bruce's life miserable.

MA is probably trying to avoid the ridiculous situation of having to sack a manager he paid compensation for a little over a year ago.

Apparently he has turned down the offer of a 'resignation but you'll still get a decent payoff' option and is staying until he gets sacked.

Graeme Jones appointment was a punishment of sorts. Feel they'll be more of these things happening in the next few weeks.

Perhaps this is why Bruce kept harping on recently about how he would never quit. Wonder if that was a message to MA.

At this point I would be very happy with seeing Bruce get canned and Jones fully taking over and getting the team playing much better and doing well enough to stay up comfortably, just to see Bruce fully exposed for the charlatan he is.

 

Again...what exactly in Jones record makes anyone think he's going to improve us?  Unless I've missed something I don't see much past a few years of mediocrity at low level. Fair enough if he was 20, but this guy is 50 and isn't exactly a newby to coaching

I understand your point completely. My statement was a 100% wishful thinking believe me, It's just what I would love to see happen.

The guy has at least been in and around successful environments and has worked with some really talented players also, and so who knows, we might luck out with him somehow. Here's hoping. If the alternative is Bruce we all know how that is going to end anyway.

We know MA isn't going to bring in a top manager that is going to be more demanding of him and so our only hope is a guy who is more of a head coach that has more current and legitimate ideas that can get more out of our players.

We can only just hope that his lack of success at Luton was more down to a lack of technical players to carry out his ideas. Between Wilson, Almiron, ASM and Fraser he will have 4 players with more than enough of that ability, that should be able to cause a lot of problems going forward, who haven't been allowed to yet under Bruce almighty.

At this point I would be very happy with seeing Bruce get canned and Jones fully taking over and getting the team playing much better and doing well enough to stay up comfortably, just to see Bruce fully exposed for the charlatan he is.

Simon Jordan cannot be this stupid, surely?

How can you just write off all of these players so flippantly. I cannot believe this man ... what an insult to the players, many of them who have shown they can perform in this league. This is purely down to the manager!

The whole season we have still not seen Wilson upfront with ASM, Almiron and Fraser off him. And then Hayden and Longstaff in centre midfield. And a back 4 of Manquillo, any 2 of our centre backs really and Lewis at left back. The most obvious lineup there is to get the best out of the team.

What a joke. We do no thave the worst squad in this league at all.

The way Jones was talking it seems he's been brought in to take over for sure.

 

The bit he says about getting the best players on the pitch and getting the best out of them was very interesting, when you consider how Bruce has been slating the players after having spent £100 million since coming in. I'm pretty sure MA did not appreciate that.

 

Jones has a lot of really good experience with Martinez but his managerial experience is very light. Bringing him in after sacking Bruce would bring a lot more scrutiny rather than bringing him in initially as assistant head coach and then letting him take over once Bruce is gone.

 

I think he'll eventually take over as manager and I am all for it. Far more hope under him than Bruce IMO.

 

Fucking hell, from Rafa Benitez to some cunt who nearly relegated Luton out of the Championship.

Yes, you'd better believe it. This is life under MA. And as shocking as it sounds it would still be a step up from the current situation under Bruce!

In the meantime I doubt he will even be trying to advise Bruce. As he says he will just be giving a neutral opinion.

Think initially he will just be getting a good sense of the players we have and exactly how rotten the current training sessions are, so he can formulate a plan for when Bruce gets tossed.

The way Jones was talking it seems he's been brought in to take over for sure.

The bit he says about getting the best players on the pitch and getting the best out of them was very interesting, when you consider how Bruce has been slating the players after having spent £100 million since coming in. I'm pretty sure MA did not appreciate that.

Jones has a lot of really good experience with Martinez but his managerial experience is very light. Bringing him in after sacking Bruce would bring a lot more scrutiny rather than bringing him in initially as assistant head coach and then letting him take over once Bruce is gone.

I think he'll eventually take over as manager and I am all for it. Far more hope under him than Bruce IMO.

It’s a bizarre situation. Only thing I can see is that he is effectively manager because they don’t want to pay Bruce off and he won’t resign.

 

Haven’t a clue who in the club would propose a move like this either.

 

Really?

Apparently it was Graham Carr.

First half was as bad as ever with the five at the back which never works. A slight surge against an out of form, newly promoted Leeds with one of the worst defences in the league and he's full of it again.

I can't believe it

 

The Bruce fan club is in full swing

People are actually hyped over that performance?! My God

More from Newcastle boss Steve Bruce, speaking to MOTD: "Any club, if you take out your best players going forward, they make such a huge difference.

 

"Fraser has been the one, along with Almiron, who lift the place up with their ability and to be more of a goal threat, we need Ryan Fraser to stay fit.

 

"If he stays well and Almiron stays well, then hopefully that will create enough to hopefully get us where we want to be.

 

"This league is demanding and cruel at times. I don't know if I've been on a worse run in 20 years but tonight, I've seen a little bit of something and we will start again tomorrow."

 

Interesting that he doesn’t mention ASM.

The same guy that has messed Almiron about since he came in

if we couldn't get anything from that game we're pretty much done.

How open and vulnerable were Leeds man? Absolutely ridiculous we've come away with nothing yet again.

We've looked worse after our last sub.

Because yet again he took Almiron out of the number 10 spot where he was causing chaos. He just won't leave him in there despite how much better we look with him in that position. He doesn't get it.

And after all that ... a poor Leeds performance and still another loss.

We have been better than usual, but not created a clear chance and look like conceding at the back.

It's incredible that this is deemed an improvement. We are despicably bad.

Leeds have been terrible and we've done nothing.

We are insanely bad.

I genuinely cannot believe what I'm watching every single time.

Shelvey

Bit annoyed we're only 1-0 down

We are so bad it now rubs off on the other team.

How bad is that man ... My God.

Shelvey and Hendrick midfield again, against Leeds?!!! :lol:

This guy man 

Fail to pick up a result in the next 3 and the rationale for him still being must surely be gone.

 

Fuck wanting my team to lose, man. Sorry state of affairs.

It's a lot easier to want us to lose once you've given up watching the games I've found Livescore is one of my fave sources of lols these days.

 

Been watching games on Flashscores for years now

Can't stop watching the games personally. More in amazement at how bad we are. It really is unbelievable.