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"But like any business with assets the club has debts. I paid £134 million out of my own pocket for the club. I then poured another £110 million into the club not to pay off the debt but just to reduce it. The club is still in debt. Even worse than that, the club still owes millions of pounds in transfer fees. I shall be paying out many more millions over the coming year to pay for players bought by the club before I arrived." I'm repeating myself now because you're blind to the contradictions.

Disgrace that he expects to walk away with at least £300M+ innit? For a club making year on year losses with a higher wage bill than he found it with and loads of debt outstanding too. Course, this was disputed by Keith Harris ... "It hasn’t been a question of dropping a price from that level, it is a question of providing information and making sure people have the facts. Like for example there is no debt at this club. Mike Ashley paid off the debt, it is things like that we have been doing to give people the real picture of the club, its prospects. Clear as mud.

Why do you keep saying this despite people telling you that we were "told" no such thing? http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/mike-ashley-statement "I was always prepared to bankroll Newcastle up to the tune of £20m per year." OK it's not on the first team. But does this not contradict Lambarse's stated intention of having the club run at an overall loss of just £7M in 2 years? Has Ashley channged his mind on what he's willing to spend since taking us off the market and wanting to make a go of it? Currently: Loss of £20m = Ashley puts in £20m to cover 2 Years Time: Loss of £7m = Ashley puts in £7m to cover and £13m for squad building I see. So where's this £8M for summer spending come from? Considering the loss last year was supposed to be £36M. Is he pumping £44M in? Why double the investment in the summer if you want to decrease losses and tighten your belt? Nothing they say adds up. Might god your complaining because he's spent MORE money !! He said he would cover at least £20m a season. During his interview when he said he would sell he said he would still cover this but nothing else. Yet he is paying out more money and your complaining. Do you even know what your complaint is ? He never said "at least". He said "up to". See the link above. I'm complaining that they're liars. They lied by spending more though have I got that bit right ? What has Ashley spent? £100 million as a loan, £70 million of that was used to clear the old debt £30 million has been put in to keep the club going. Since the 30th June he has put in a further £10 million of cash as working capital. £138 million to buy the club total investment is £248 million so far. Who knows if they will spend more, but the accounts we've seen only mention an ongoing investment of £10m, so it's half the maximum amount he harked on about in the first place. It's yet to be seen if he coughs up the money needed to buy in the Summer and keep our losses down to £20M. Again, I'll not hold my breath. So in 6 months he has paid £10m for ongoing investment. In the 12 months to June 08 he paid £30m for ongoing costs. So even if he doesn't put another penny in he has put in £20m a year on average. Of course that is assuming that the club has no more bills to pay between now and June and therefore would not require any further cash injection £100M to clear debt according to Mort. Then Mike Ashley says "I paid £134 million out of my own pocket for the club. I then poured another £110 million into the club not to pay off the debt but just to reduce it. The club is still in debt. Even worse than that, the club still owes millions of pounds in transfer fees.... Before I had spent a penny on wages or buying players Newcastle United had cost me more than a quarter of a billion pounds." But the accounts show it's just £70M of debt and £30M of ongoing costs. If he wants to claim he's spent £20M a year keeping us afloat that's fine, but he can't double count it and claim he's spent a quarter of a billion BEFORE that further investment. are those accounts covering just 1 year ? Aye. Summer 2007 to June 2008. Since the 30th June he has put in a further £10 million of cash as working capital. As well as earning about £9M on transfers what about before 30th june 2007 ? I belive they cover prior to then, hence "Summer 2007".

Why do you keep saying this despite people telling you that we were "told" no such thing? http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/mike-ashley-statement "I was always prepared to bankroll Newcastle up to the tune of £20m per year." OK it's not on the first team. But does this not contradict Lambarse's stated intention of having the club run at an overall loss of just £7M in 2 years? Has Ashley channged his mind on what he's willing to spend since taking us off the market and wanting to make a go of it? Currently: Loss of £20m = Ashley puts in £20m to cover 2 Years Time: Loss of £7m = Ashley puts in £7m to cover and £13m for squad building I see. So where's this £8M for summer spending come from? Considering the loss last year was supposed to be £36M. Is he pumping £44M in? Why double the investment in the summer if you want to decrease losses and tighten your belt? Nothing they say adds up. Might god your complaining because he's spent MORE money !! He said he would cover at least £20m a season. During his interview when he said he would sell he said he would still cover this but nothing else. Yet he is paying out more money and your complaining. Do you even know what your complaint is ? He never said "at least". He said "up to". See the link above. I'm complaining that they're liars. They lied by spending more though have I got that bit right ? What has Ashley spent? £100 million as a loan, £70 million of that was used to clear the old debt £30 million has been put in to keep the club going. Since the 30th June he has put in a further £10 million of cash as working capital. £138 million to buy the club total investment is £248 million so far. Who knows if they will spend more, but the accounts we've seen only mention an ongoing investment of £10m, so it's half the maximum amount he harked on about in the first place. It's yet to be seen if he coughs up the money needed to buy in the Summer and keep our losses down to £20M. Again, I'll not hold my breath. So in 6 months he has paid £10m for ongoing investment. In the 12 months to June 08 he paid £30m for ongoing costs. So even if he doesn't put another penny in he has put in £20m a year on average. Of course that is assuming that the club has no more bills to pay between now and June and therefore would not require any further cash injection £100M to clear debt according to Mort. Then Mike Ashley says "I paid £134 million out of my own pocket for the club. I then poured another £110 million into the club not to pay off the debt but just to reduce it. The club is still in debt. Even worse than that, the club still owes millions of pounds in transfer fees.... Before I had spent a penny on wages or buying players Newcastle United had cost me more than a quarter of a billion pounds." But the accounts show it's just £70M of debt and £30M of ongoing costs. If he wants to claim he's spent £20M a year keeping us afloat that's fine, but he can't double count it and claim he's spent a quarter of a billion BEFORE that further investment. are those accounts covering just 1 year ? Aye. Summer 2007 to June 2008. Since the 30th June he has put in a further £10 million of cash as working capital. As well as earning about £9M on transfers

Rather than "Sunderland's a massive club (fuck off)." He sacked Kevin Keegan, for Dennis Wise Sacked Kevin Keegan, for Dennis Wise He sacked Kevin Keegan, for Dennis Wise Cos Lambarse is a great chairman (Fuck off!) He hired Joe Kinnear, who's got tourettes Hired Joe Kinnear, who's got tourettes He hired Joe Kinnear, who's got tourettes Cos Lambarse is a great chairman (Fuck off!) He sold Shay Given, for bugger all Sold Shay Given, for bugger all He sold Shay Given, for bugger all Cos Lambarse is a great chairman (Fuck off!)

Why do you keep saying this despite people telling you that we were "told" no such thing? http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/mike-ashley-statement "I was always prepared to bankroll Newcastle up to the tune of £20m per year." OK it's not on the first team. But does this not contradict Lambarse's stated intention of having the club run at an overall loss of just £7M in 2 years? Has Ashley channged his mind on what he's willing to spend since taking us off the market and wanting to make a go of it? Currently: Loss of £20m = Ashley puts in £20m to cover 2 Years Time: Loss of £7m = Ashley puts in £7m to cover and £13m for squad building I see. So where's this £8M for summer spending come from? Considering the loss last year was supposed to be £36M. Is he pumping £44M in? Why double the investment in the summer if you want to decrease losses and tighten your belt? Nothing they say adds up. Might god your complaining because he's spent MORE money !! He said he would cover at least £20m a season. During his interview when he said he would sell he said he would still cover this but nothing else. Yet he is paying out more money and your complaining. Do you even know what your complaint is ? He never said "at least". He said "up to". See the link above. I'm complaining that they're liars. They lied by spending more though have I got that bit right ? What has Ashley spent? £100 million as a loan, £70 million of that was used to clear the old debt £30 million has been put in to keep the club going. Since the 30th June he has put in a further £10 million of cash as working capital. £138 million to buy the club total investment is £248 million so far. Who knows if they will spend more, but the accounts we've seen only mention an ongoing investment of £10m, so it's half the maximum amount he harked on about in the first place. It's yet to be seen if he coughs up the money needed to buy in the Summer and keep our losses down to £20M. Again, I'll not hold my breath. So in 6 months he has paid £10m for ongoing investment. In the 12 months to June 08 he paid £30m for ongoing costs. So even if he doesn't put another penny in he has put in £20m a year on average. Of course that is assuming that the club has no more bills to pay between now and June and therefore would not require any further cash injection £100M to clear debt according to Mort. Then Mike Ashley says "I paid £134 million out of my own pocket for the club. I then poured another £110 million into the club not to pay off the debt but just to reduce it. The club is still in debt. Even worse than that, the club still owes millions of pounds in transfer fees.... Before I had spent a penny on wages or buying players Newcastle United had cost me more than a quarter of a billion pounds." But the accounts showit's just £70M of debt and £30M of ongoing costs. If he wants to claim he's spent £20M a year keeping us afloat that's fine, but he can't double count it and claim he's spent a quarter of a billion BEFORE that further investment.

Why do you keep saying this despite people telling you that we were "told" no such thing? http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/mike-ashley-statement "I was always prepared to bankroll Newcastle up to the tune of £20m per year." OK it's not on the first team. But does this not contradict Lambarse's stated intention of having the club run at an overall loss of just £7M in 2 years? Has Ashley channged his mind on what he's willing to spend since taking us off the market and wanting to make a go of it? Currently: Loss of £20m = Ashley puts in £20m to cover 2 Years Time: Loss of £7m = Ashley puts in £7m to cover and £13m for squad building I see. So where's this £8M for summer spending come from? Considering the loss last year was supposed to be £36M. Is he pumping £44M in? Why double the investment in the summer if you want to decrease losses and tighten your belt? Nothing they say adds up. Might god your complaining because he's spent MORE money !! He said he would cover at least £20m a season. During his interview when he said he would sell he said he would still cover this but nothing else. Yet he is paying out more money and your complaining. Do you even know what your complaint is ? He never said "at least". He said "up to". See the link above. I'm complaining that they're liars. They might be liars but no one else has shown any real interest in putting their money where their mouth is and buying the club, so we are what we are, all we can hope is that they'll genuinely try and do right by the club. Who knows what kind of interest was shown. Anyone that wanted to see the books had to sign a non-disclosure contract didn't they? I don't know if a credible offer (£250M say) was received, but we only have the owners word that there wasn't. His word means shit to me, because I think he plans to see a good profit from this investment.

Why do you keep saying this despite people telling you that we were "told" no such thing? http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/mike-ashley-statement "I was always prepared to bankroll Newcastle up to the tune of £20m per year." OK it's not on the first team. But does this not contradict Lambarse's stated intention of having the club run at an overall loss of just £7M in 2 years? Has Ashley channged his mind on what he's willing to spend since taking us off the market and wanting to make a go of it? Currently: Loss of £20m = Ashley puts in £20m to cover 2 Years Time: Loss of £7m = Ashley puts in £7m to cover and £13m for squad building I see. So where's this £8M for summer spending come from? Considering the loss last year was supposed to be £36M. Is he pumping £44M in? Why double the investment in the summer if you want to decrease losses and tighten your belt? Nothing they say adds up. Might god your complaining because he's spent MORE money !! He said he would cover at least £20m a season. During his interview when he said he would sell he said he would still cover this but nothing else. Yet he is paying out more money and your complaining. Do you even know what your complaint is ? He never said "at least". He said "up to". See the link above. I'm complaining that they're liars. They lied by spending more though have I got that bit right ? What has Ashley spent? £100 million as a loan, £70 million of that was used to clear the old debt £30 million has been put in to keep the club going. Since the 30th June he has put in a further £10 million of cash as working capital. £138 million to buy the club total investment is £248 million so far. Who knows if they will spend more, but the accounts we've seen only mention an ongoing investment of £10m, so it's half the maximum amount he harked on about in the first place. It's yet to be seen if he coughs up the money needed to buy in the Summer and keep our losses down to £20M. Again, I'll not hold my breath.

Why do you keep saying this despite people telling you that we were "told" no such thing? http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/mike-ashley-statement "I was always prepared to bankroll Newcastle up to the tune of £20m per year." OK it's not on the first team. But does this not contradict Lambarse's stated intention of having the club run at an overall loss of just £7M in 2 years? Has Ashley channged his mind on what he's willing to spend since taking us off the market and wanting to make a go of it? Currently: Loss of £20m = Ashley puts in £20m to cover 2 Years Time: Loss of £7m = Ashley puts in £7m to cover and £13m for squad building I see. So where's this £8M for summer spending come from? Considering the loss last year was supposed to be £36M. Is he pumping £44M in? Why double the investment in the summer if you want to decrease losses and tighten your belt? Nothing they say adds up. Might god your complaining because he's spent MORE money !! He said he would cover at least £20m a season. During his interview when he said he would sell he said he would still cover this but nothing else. Yet he is paying out more money and your complaining. Do you even know what your complaint is ? He never said "at least". He said "up to". See the link above. I'm complaining that they're liars.

Why do you keep saying this despite people telling you that we were "told" no such thing? http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/mike-ashley-statement "I was always prepared to bankroll Newcastle up to the tune of £20m per year." OK it's not on the first team. But does this not contradict Lambarse's stated intention of having the club run at an overall loss of just £7M in 2 years? Has Ashley channged his mind on what he's willing to spend since taking us off the market and wanting to make a go of it? Currently: Loss of £20m = Ashley puts in £20m to cover 2 Years Time: Loss of £7m = Ashley puts in £7m to cover and £13m for squad building I see. So where's this £8M for summer spending come from? Considering the loss last year was supposed to be £36M. Is he pumping £44M in? Why double the investment in the summer if you want to decrease losses and tighten your belt? Nothing they say adds up.

Why do you keep saying this despite people telling you that we were "told" no such thing? http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/mike-ashley-statement "I was always prepared to bankroll Newcastle up to the tune of £20m per year." OK it's not on the first team. But does this not contradict Lambarse's stated intention of having the club run at an overall loss of just £7M in 2 years? Has Ashley channged his mind on what he's willing to spend since taking us off the market and wanting to make a go of it?

If the NUSC weren't getting so much press coverage with their demands for communication from the club you can be sure this interview would never have happened. Thats rubbish I'm afraid. The club had said before Xmas they would talk after the transfer window. NUSC had sweet FA to do with the interview or the future meeting. In fact I don't even know if anyone on NUSC is part of the meeting, they might be I don't know. The club said just after christams they'd be speaking in the new year (Ashley's programme notes for the Liverpool game). That never happened though so Kinnear said it would be after the transfer window. Then he said it would be the end of the season that they'd talk to supporters groups. Now Llambias points out they're regularly talking to supporters groups. Nobody at the club is reading from the same page. Anyhow, why did they feel the need to break from their policy of silence, if not due to the pressure they were under? It's been known by the people who go to the meetings it would be February for a long time. I don't care what JK said how much of what he says is true anyway I think you're confusing meetings with fan representatives (stewarding, prices etc.) with broader communication (Club direction, transfer policy, who's running the club etc.). Llambias hasn't even been involved with the former has he? I think (assume) that's all Llambias is on about when he mentions the meetings with the fans. He hasn't been involved with those yet but he is in february from what I understand. Mort was included in the last lot though. I'll not count my chickens that he will just yet, but I was on about the latter. Would you Adam and Eve it? I hear Llambias has only gone and cancelled his promised appearance at the February get together. *SHOCK* *HORROR* Long live open dialogue and communication. mackems.gif What a f***ing joke. No surprise to see this post has been ignored though. I'll just keep bumping it to quieten the gullible. Most of the papers have gone with Kinnear needing heart surgery so if that's the case then it's understandable that talking to a fans forum isn't top priority and getting together with club directors to work out what they plan to do about the managerial situation is. It comments like this from NUSC that make them look like self important arseholes. You're a betting man Baggio. What odds will you give me that Keegan wins an £8M constructive dismissal payout next month and Lambarse uses it to justify spending nowt in the summer? If he did (he also mentioned the £4m we're owed for Milner which will go on transfers) how would you expect the club to pay out more when we're up s*** creek in debt! Ahh no I'm sorry just chase the current board out and we'll get that Billionaire in that NUSC have lined up. Yeah. We were "told" the club had £100M of debt when Ashley arrived which was now completely cleared. We were "told" the Ashley would invest £20M a season in the first team. But after 2 years he's £2M in profit on transfers. We were "told" he would sell the club. We were "told" Lambarse would meet the NUSC in February. Forgive me if I don't see what they say as the gods honest. In his own words, "Actions speak louder than words" and the only actions we've seen have left us as relegation bait. The clubs £100m debt is still there it's just not now paying 11% interest a month. There were extra debts since been discovered to add to that. He has invested £20m per season towards the running costs of the club. So your saying he's spent an extra £2m of once again his own money to cover those transfers. He tried, no one wanted it. It's been cancelled grow up meetings get cancelled I'm sure it will be re arranged. I'm sure it won't. And no, I'm saying he's made £2M net profit on transfers. They can sell this myth about having to stabalise the finances before investing but according to the figures, they've added £15M to the wage bill since they arrived... £56.6M before they arrived £70M In the latest figures And, had it not been for the £6.5m the club received in compensation for striker Michael Owen’s World Cup knee injury, the percentage of revenue would have looked even worse. So are we in a better position financially because of their frugality, or are we more in danger of going under when we get relegated?

I don't see why you're worried about that, I assume it'll be the same people that pulled out all the stops in head hunting joking Joe. Also Redknapp and Keegan it should be added. Really? You not reckon Wise, Vetere and Williamson have had any say since arriving? Maybe they have. Joe Kinnear wasn't a disaster btw, when you consider the circumstances at the time he was given the job, http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2418/managersnc0.jpg The club was on the verge of being sold, he was on a monthly contract and we were in a relegation spot and in freefall. Aye. But since then club came off the market, we fluked our way out of the bottom three, he got the job full time, and was offered a two and a half year deal.....and he still never won a game in seven since.

all comps I reckon... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Newcastle_United_F.C._managers

Wonder if he's sent his wife up north to get the contract off his desk so he can get is signed smartish. Two and a half years sick pay down the drain otherwise.

I don't see why you're worried about that, I assume it'll be the same people that pulled out all the stops in head hunting joking Joe. Also Redknapp and Keegan it should be added. Really? You not reckon Wise, Vetere and Williamson have had any say since arriving? Maybe they have. Joe Kinnear wasn't a disaster btw, when you consider the circumstances at the time he was given the job, http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2418/managersnc0.jpg

I don't see why you're worried about that, I assume it'll be the same people that pulled out all the stops in head hunting joking Joe. Also Redknapp and Keegan it should be added. Really? You not reckon Wise, Vetere and Williamson have had any say since arriving?

I don't see why you're worried about that, I assume it'll be the same people that pulled out all the stops in head hunting joking Joe.

If the NUSC weren't getting so much press coverage with their demands for communication from the club you can be sure this interview would never have happened. Thats rubbish I'm afraid. The club had said before Xmas they would talk after the transfer window. NUSC had sweet FA to do with the interview or the future meeting. In fact I don't even know if anyone on NUSC is part of the meeting, they might be I don't know. The club said just after christams they'd be speaking in the new year (Ashley's programme notes for the Liverpool game). That never happened though so Kinnear said it would be after the transfer window. Then he said it would be the end of the season that they'd talk to supporters groups. Now Llambias points out they're regularly talking to supporters groups. Nobody at the club is reading from the same page. Anyhow, why did they feel the need to break from their policy of silence, if not due to the pressure they were under? It's been known by the people who go to the meetings it would be February for a long time. I don't care what JK said how much of what he says is true anyway I think you're confusing meetings with fan representatives (stewarding, prices etc.) with broader communication (Club direction, transfer policy, who's running the club etc.). Llambias hasn't even been involved with the former has he? I think (assume) that's all Llambias is on about when he mentions the meetings with the fans. He hasn't been involved with those yet but he is in february from what I understand. Mort was included in the last lot though. I'll not count my chickens that he will just yet, but I was on about the latter. Would you Adam and Eve it? I hear Llambias has only gone and cancelled his promised appearance at the February get together. *SHOCK* *HORROR* Long live open dialogue and communication. mackems.gif What a f***ing joke. No surprise to see this post has been ignored though. I'll just keep bumping it to quieten the gullible. Most of the papers have gone with Kinnear needing heart surgery so if that's the case then it's understandable that talking to a fans forum isn't top priority and getting together with club directors to work out what they plan to do about the managerial situation is. It comments like this from NUSC that make them look like self important arseholes. You're a betting man Baggio. What odds will you give me that Keegan wins an £8M constructive dismissal payout next month and Lambarse uses it to justify spending nowt in the summer? If he did (he also mentioned the £4m we're owed for Milner which will go on transfers) how would you expect the club to pay out more when we're up s*** creek in debt! Ahh no I'm sorry just chase the current board out and we'll get that Billionaire in that NUSC have lined up. Yeah. We were "told" the club had £100M of debt when Ashley arrived which was now completely cleared. We were "told" the Ashley would invest £20M a season in the first team. But after 2 years he's £2M in profit on transfers. We were "told" he would sell the club. We were "told" Lambarse would meet the NUSC in February. Forgive me if I don't see what they say as the gods honest. In his own words, "Actions speak louder than words" and the only actions we've seen have left us as relegation bait.

If the NUSC weren't getting so much press coverage with their demands for communication from the club you can be sure this interview would never have happened. Thats rubbish I'm afraid. The club had said before Xmas they would talk after the transfer window. NUSC had sweet FA to do with the interview or the future meeting. In fact I don't even know if anyone on NUSC is part of the meeting, they might be I don't know. The club said just after christams they'd be speaking in the new year (Ashley's programme notes for the Liverpool game). That never happened though so Kinnear said it would be after the transfer window. Then he said it would be the end of the season that they'd talk to supporters groups. Now Llambias points out they're regularly talking to supporters groups. Nobody at the club is reading from the same page. Anyhow, why did they feel the need to break from their policy of silence, if not due to the pressure they were under? It's been known by the people who go to the meetings it would be February for a long time. I don't care what JK said how much of what he says is true anyway I think you're confusing meetings with fan representatives (stewarding, prices etc.) with broader communication (Club direction, transfer policy, who's running the club etc.). Llambias hasn't even been involved with the former has he? I think (assume) that's all Llambias is on about when he mentions the meetings with the fans. He hasn't been involved with those yet but he is in february from what I understand. Mort was included in the last lot though. I'll not count my chickens that he will just yet, but I was on about the latter. Would you Adam and Eve it? I hear Llambias has only gone and cancelled his promised appearance at the February get together. *SHOCK* *HORROR* Long live open dialogue and communication. mackems.gif What a fucking joke. No surprise to see this post has been ignored though. I'll just keep bumping it to quieten the gullible. Most of the papers have gone with Kinnear needing heart surgery so if that's the case then it's understandable that talking to a fans forum isn't top priority and getting together with club directors to work out what they plan to do about the managerial situation is. It comments like this from NUSC that make them look like self important arseholes. You're a betting man Baggio. What odds will you give me that Keegan wins an £8M constructive dismissal payout next month and Lambarse uses it to justify spending nowt in the summer?

If the NUSC weren't getting so much press coverage with their demands for communication from the club you can be sure this interview would never have happened. Thats rubbish I'm afraid. The club had said before Xmas they would talk after the transfer window. NUSC had sweet FA to do with the interview or the future meeting. In fact I don't even know if anyone on NUSC is part of the meeting, they might be I don't know. The club said just after christams they'd be speaking in the new year (Ashley's programme notes for the Liverpool game). That never happened though so Kinnear said it would be after the transfer window. Then he said it would be the end of the season that they'd talk to supporters groups. Now Llambias points out they're regularly talking to supporters groups. Nobody at the club is reading from the same page. Anyhow, why did they feel the need to break from their policy of silence, if not due to the pressure they were under? It's been known by the people who go to the meetings it would be February for a long time. I don't care what JK said how much of what he says is true anyway I think you're confusing meetings with fan representatives (stewarding, prices etc.) with broader communication (Club direction, transfer policy, who's running the club etc.). Llambias hasn't even been involved with the former has he? I think (assume) that's all Llambias is on about when he mentions the meetings with the fans. He hasn't been involved with those yet but he is in february from what I understand. Mort was included in the last lot though. I'll not count my chickens that he will just yet, but I was on about the latter. Would you Adam and Eve it? I hear Llambias has only gone and cancelled his promised appearance at the February get together. *SHOCK* *HORROR* Long live open dialogue and communication. mackems.gif What a f***ing joke. No surprise to see this post has been ignored though. I'll just keep bumping it to quieten the gullible. Didn't see it, but maybe he's busy and might reschedule ? I suppose he does have to head hunt his fourth manager of the season. He's more prolific than Shepherd.

If the NUSC weren't getting so much press coverage with their demands for communication from the club you can be sure this interview would never have happened. Thats rubbish I'm afraid. The club had said before Xmas they would talk after the transfer window. NUSC had sweet FA to do with the interview or the future meeting. In fact I don't even know if anyone on NUSC is part of the meeting, they might be I don't know. The club said just after christams they'd be speaking in the new year (Ashley's programme notes for the Liverpool game). That never happened though so Kinnear said it would be after the transfer window. Then he said it would be the end of the season that they'd talk to supporters groups. Now Llambias points out they're regularly talking to supporters groups. Nobody at the club is reading from the same page. Anyhow, why did they feel the need to break from their policy of silence, if not due to the pressure they were under? It's been known by the people who go to the meetings it would be February for a long time. I don't care what JK said how much of what he says is true anyway I think you're confusing meetings with fan representatives (stewarding, prices etc.) with broader communication (Club direction, transfer policy, who's running the club etc.). Llambias hasn't even been involved with the former has he? I think (assume) that's all Llambias is on about when he mentions the meetings with the fans. He hasn't been involved with those yet but he is in february from what I understand. Mort was included in the last lot though. I'll not count my chickens that he will just yet, but I was on about the latter. Would you Adam and Eve it? I hear Llambias has only gone and cancelled his promised appearance at the February get together. *SHOCK* *HORROR* Long live open dialogue and communication. mackems.gif What a fucking joke. No surprise to see this post has been ignored though. I'll just keep bumping it to quieten the gullible.

If the NUSC weren't getting so much press coverage with their demands for communication from the club you can be sure this interview would never have happened. Thats rubbish I'm afraid. The club had said before Xmas they would talk after the transfer window. NUSC had sweet FA to do with the interview or the future meeting. In fact I don't even know if anyone on NUSC is part of the meeting, they might be I don't know. The club said just after christams they'd be speaking in the new year (Ashley's programme notes for the Liverpool game). That never happened though so Kinnear said it would be after the transfer window. Then he said it would be the end of the season that they'd talk to supporters groups. Now Llambias points out they're regularly talking to supporters groups. Nobody at the club is reading from the same page. Anyhow, why did they feel the need to break from their policy of silence, if not due to the pressure they were under? It's been known by the people who go to the meetings it would be February for a long time. I don't care what JK said how much of what he says is true anyway I think you're confusing meetings with fan representatives (stewarding, prices etc.) with broader communication (Club direction, transfer policy, who's running the club etc.). Llambias hasn't even been involved with the former has he? I think (assume) that's all Llambias is on about when he mentions the meetings with the fans. He hasn't been involved with those yet but he is in february from what I understand. Mort was included in the last lot though. I'll not count my chickens that he will just yet, but I was on about the latter. Would you Adam and Eve it? I hear Llambias has only gone and cancelled his promised appearance at the February get together. *SHOCK* *HORROR* Long live open dialogue and communication. mackems.gif

A plan for mediocrity at best, abject failure more likely.

If the NUSC weren't getting so much press coverage with their demands for communication from the club you can be sure this interview would never have happened. Thats rubbish I'm afraid. The club had said before Xmas they would talk after the transfer window. NUSC had sweet FA to do with the interview or the future meeting. In fact I don't even know if anyone on NUSC is part of the meeting, they might be I don't know. The club said just after christams they'd be speaking in the new year (Ashley's programme notes for the Liverpool game). That never happened though so Kinnear said it would be after the transfer window. Then he said it would be the end of the season that they'd talk to supporters groups. Now Llambias points out they're regularly talking to supporters groups. Nobody at the club is reading from the same page. Anyhow, why did they feel the need to break from their policy of silence, if not due to the pressure they were under? It's been known by the people who go to the meetings it would be February for a long time. I don't care what JK said how much of what he says is true anyway I think you're confusing meetings with fan representatives (stewarding, prices etc.) with broader communication (Club direction, transfer policy, who's running the club etc.). Llambias hasn't even been involved with the former has he? I think (assume) that's all Llambias is on about when he mentions the meetings with the fans. He hasn't been involved with those yet but he is in february from what I understand. Mort was included in the last lot though. I'll not count my chickens that he will just yet, but I was on about the latter.