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Agree with most of that. Though i thought duff was one of our better players, and while far from good, martins tried hard and i didnt think he stood out as bad (considering which team he was playing in)

This was a very bad interview. If you're doing crap and want the fans on your side, you do not blame them, even if it's true. You do not defend the performance either. You tell it how it is and say "that was rubbish, and things need to improve". Bobby, nor souness, nor roeder have had the bottle to do that. Really pisses me off when managers defend clearly abysmal performances.

proper supporters support the team of the place where they come from. Not true, some proper supporters support teams because of family members, my kids were always going to support Newcastle, regardless of where they were born. My nephew was born in the midlands but didnt have a choice in the matter, he was born black & white, we made sure of that. There's an argument that "come from" is a generational thing - but if i moved to Birmingham (as if), had kids, and THEY stayed there, had kids etc, i wouldn't expect my grandkids to be NUFC fans. If you are a brummie (which my grandkids would be) you should support a Birmingham team, in my opinion. You shouldn't necessarily be forced into supporting a team other than that of where you 'come from'. I know what you mean, but...I've been born and raised in Newcastle, but i support scotland as my national team. My dad's been taking me to scotland games since i was 5, so ive no choice in the matter. I'm a scotland fan, like it or not. Naturally, i would bring my son up as a scotland fan, despite him only being 1/4 scottish

Do it to fat fred's favorite restaurant,that will be enough.. Something tells me he's not fussy.

I know people say we've got crap players, and we do have some, but seriously with a great manager, we could do things even with our current squad. We have better players that loads of teams above us, but we lack ideas.

Dickhead. People like you are tumor in football.

With Roeder as manager ? Highly possible. Whats your solution then genius? Sack him now? And then what? I'm not saying it is the solution, but it could be, at least short term. A new manager would probably bring a boost that would at least keep us up. some very very very short memories around here Yours? You can't even remember what was written at the beginning of the said post. :rolls: eh? I wasnt saying it was the solution, i said it may be a short term solution to keep us up. Like Roeder last year had a short term impact.

With Roeder as manager ? Highly possible. Whats your solution then genius? Sack him now? And then what? I'm not saying it is the solution, but it could be, at least short term. A new manager would probably bring a boost that would at least keep us up. some very very very short memories around here Yours? You can't even remember what was written at the beginning of the said post. :rolls:

With Roeder as manager ? Highly possible. Whats your solution then genius? Sack him now? And then what? I'm not saying it is the solution, but it could be, at least short term. A new manager would probably bring a boost that would at least keep us up.

No-one said its impossible. But it won't happen, because thankfully there's at least 3 teams worse then us. I agree. We're crap, and if something doesnt happen next year, it could happen. But i dont think charlton or west ham will catch anyone, and if they do, not us. And hopefuly WHU will get a point deduction

he also said the fan's being impatient got to the players, and the fans dont understand how hard it is to play v a defensive team. He also pointed to the parker goal which was "only just offside"

I agree i would have brung up him on ideally, but then id have given milner and sib a go too, and moore was obviously injured.

I think today was make or brake. We are well and truly broken.

to be fair i just dont think emre looked interested v charlton. He's potential petrol but currently i dont think there's the spark to cause the petrol to burn and thus provide power.

If anything, their expectations are too low because theyve been around when the club was tiny and shiite, and their opinions should be ignored because theyre not in touch with modern football and the runnings of a successful modern football club, which has clearly moved on from just appointing your local manager and giving him money to spend. These people think its good to appoint managers like Dalglish and Roeder whilst the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool are appointing your Wenger's and Benitez's - football has moved on, they havent. Of course, im just playing devils advocate here, I dont think anyone's opinion is more valid than the next since opinions, intelligence, perspective, expectations will all be different, but its easy to argue that other groups' opinions are less valid just to make your own opinion/agenda seem stronger. "Dalgliesh and Roeder". Kenny was a highly successful manager previously, you cant blame us for wanting him.

Personally I hate him because he's pathetic and immature. I don't hate Ferguson or Benetiez.

Duff has been rubbish. No argument about that, but i don't think you can fault his effort. That's why i find it so bewildering.

I said to give him the job in the summer. Who the hell else was there? And i wouldnt get rid of him, til we have someone lined up. I think CoachHTT may be right. I think i would keep roeder in the setup and bring in a manager if possible.

If you take the 'George supporters' as the origin of the word Geordie, people from Gateshead are not Geordies. Newcastle (Geordies) were a minority in the area, sandwiched between opposition in the north and south (Northumberland and Durham) - Gateshead came under Durham. Ant and Dec's History of Tyneside

I agree with a lot of what you're saying NJS, but not so much about having to have experienced the pre-keegan days. I was born in 1989, and i started following football as early as is realistically possible. I can't remember not going to newcastle games. I've been going to games since i was 5, and away games since i was 6 and i can't comprehend anybody feeling more joy or sorrow from Newcastle United than i do. If anything, you could say it is worse for my generation. My standards are naturally much higher. A few years older than me, and you've experienced much worse - relegation and the like. The first 2 seasons i remember properly we came 2nd in the premiership twice, and the next year we were in the champions league. Early memories that aren't so 'comprehensive' are of Beardsley and Cole banging them in, 'the entertainers'. You could say my disspointment threshold will be much higher. I'm not in anyway saying that i have more right to whinge etc. than older fans, but i'm saying i don't think they have more right than me.

what are you talking about? I didn't see a dive. Definite penalty. Was it s****, minimal contact, went down like a sack of s****, or are you a member of the "lets turn football into a non-contact sport" brigade. Or maybe I've just been whooshed? Agree! Carvalho did get the ball.... you talking about chealsea spurs or boro Man U? I'm talking about ronaldo's penalty...which was most definetly a foul. It clearly wasn't though, I don't class clipping someones foot as a foul, a foul is a challenge that is deemed to endanger the opposition, did you think Ronaldo was in danger. No, because he saw the opportunity to go down like a tosser, good to see people have gone so soft in the modern era of the game... 'Endanger' ? It's not about danger, ot's about stopping the player illegally. Handball isnt endangering anybody. He clips Ronaldo's knee. I hate him, but it was a penalty.

Was rightly a pen. And absolute disgrace by Morrison. Worthy of more than a 3 match ban.

I don't think Yankee means "resign". I think he means go for it, but accept we may be midtable for a few seasons while we build from the foundations - be patient, don't think it's failing because we're midtable for a couple of years.

I wouldn't be willing to give up my season ticket. But if there was a mass boycott for one game, that i was confident would occur en masse, i would participate

Bless I feel a bit guilty for beating you 5-0 here now