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Just hope he isn't pinning his hopes on that fixing everything. Find it astounding he didn't mention our approach play, and how we drive forward. Because that is our biggest issue

Possibly, we do need defenders to chip in with goals, Taylor used to score a few until he was expected way out for lofted free kicks and corners. Could just change the routine

Even then I would put it more down to his movement in the box, and his aggressiveness when he attacks the ball rather than his height. Exactly, aggressiveness is key, Shola around same height and soft as shit. Our other players rarely attack with a lot of venom/aggression. And the "this league" thing always gets me. I'm fairly sure we wouldn't score a corner in any of the big divisions - Bundesliga, Ligue 1, La Liga, Serie A and it's got nothing to do with the size of our players, it's the movement and intent

So put into context it isn't really that negative, fair enough. What was the full quote around 6ft 4" players? "We need to have more dominance in that area and it's all well and good saying the set play problem is down to tactics, delivery or whatever. Ultimately you need 6-foot-4 in this division to go and head it in or at least get first contact on it to head it across the box and we've not had that all year." That's frightening tbh. Just incredible from a Premier League manager. That is unreal, it's all about good delivery and the way you approach them. Big players are not always good headers of a ball, just come up with better movement and get that ball whipped in

Nah, your wrong, jumpers mate...jumpers. They're the key. Big f*** off jumpers. Thing is, i'm 6 foot 3, and i'm sure some smaller lads could out jump me, nothing to do with height, although it helps for leverage it's beyond belief. It's just one of the million things he's come out with which couldn't be more wrong. I know, Shola is 6ft odd and can't think the last time he powered one in. Good attackers will always score from good set pieces regardless of height. Even Owen (Judas boooooooo) had a good leap on him and scored a few headers. Only real big lad good at scoring headers in league up front is Carroll.

So put into context it isn't really that negative, fair enough. What was the full quote around 6ft 4" players?

Nah, your wrong, jumpers mate...jumpers. They're the key. Big f*** off jumpers. Thing is, i'm 6 foot 3, and i'm sure some smaller lads could out jump me, nothing to do with height, although it helps for leverage

So it really is real and it wasn't just the wine making me thick as f***, Jesus Christ the blokes a total clown Jack has summarised it pretty well to be fair, although it naturally reads a lot worse in bullet points than it comes across from the horse's mouth. I know the two interviews have just been lip service for the most part, but there are some crumbs of positivity to take from them like a few acknowledgements of his own failings, an apparent clear plan for transfers this summer and the stuff about all the young players going back out on loan/Adam Campbell being primed to push on while staying here. While I agree that the video rather than bullets probably adds more context, it's the thing around 6 foot 4 players required and the blaming full back attacking that gets me. They wouldn't have to attack so much if the Wingers were doing it and that won't happen with Jonas out left

Just f***ing shut up Pardew, we aren't 7/8th best team are we, you need to prove that next season. How is Debuchy going to score if you stop him attacking. Basically talking about more defending and scoring by having 6ft 4 players and launching ball as opposed to clever plays. You don't need a 6ft 4 to head in this division as most of top teams don't f***ing have that you total clown. For Man U, Evra scored a header against us, it's about routines man and good set pieces rather than height, height, height. Like that is real man, use your brain The moyes thing is a dead giveaway, dead gullible you lot. Mole, you're such a dopey bugger at times like. YES, i'm not a total Mong, just partial whoooop

Well yes, but requires a certain amount of players making sure they drag defenders and make the runs. Still comes from training ground and routines driven out from there

So it really is real and it wasn't just the wine making me thick as fuck, Jesus Christ the blokes a total clown

Just f***ing shut up Pardew, we aren't 7/8th best team are we, you need to prove that next season. How is Debuchy going to score if you stop him attacking. Basically talking about more defending and scoring by having 6ft 4 players and launching ball as opposed to clever plays. You don't need a 6ft 4 to head in this division as most of top teams don't f***ing have that you total clown. For Man U, Evra scored a header against us, it's about routines man and good set pieces rather than height, height, height. Awesome Engage my brain? - it looks like exactly the delusional s*** he would come out with (Oh and have had a bit too much wine, maybe time to log off ) yeah, the post above mine was probably the one you wanted to quote as well like. Na I meant to capture all the lols at me

Just f***ing shut up Pardew, we aren't 7/8th best team are we, you need to prove that next season. How is Debuchy going to score if you stop him attacking. Basically talking about more defending and scoring by having 6ft 4 players and launching ball as opposed to clever plays. You don't need a 6ft 4 to head in this division as most of top teams don't f***ing have that you total clown. For Man U, Evra scored a header against us, it's about routines man and good set pieces rather than height, height, height. Awesome Engage my brain? - it looks like exactly the delusional shit he would come out with (Oh and have had a bit too much wine, maybe time to log off )

Just fucking shut up Pardew, we aren't 7/8th best team are we, you need to prove that next season. How is Debuchy going to score if you stop him attacking. Basically talking about more defending and scoring by having 6ft 4 players and launching ball as opposed to clever plays. You don't need a 6ft 4 to head in this division as most of top teams don't fucking have that you total clown. For Man U, Evra scored a header against us, it's about routines man and good set pieces rather than height, height, height.

That team is more than capable of top 8 in that formation. The problem is the shape and tactics. All of them will stand still, Gouffran, Ben Arfa and Cabaye will be too far away from Cisse, we won't be compact enough when defending and we won't try and stretch defences when attacking.

I think it's tactics rather than formation that needs to be worked on. Happy with 4-2-3-1 as long as decent Left/Right wing and players encouraged to move and retain possession. Needs to be 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 for me.

Or Billy Sharp

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Not even Alex Song? http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lka3ob1J5i1qdaaw6o1_500.gif#laughing%20puppets%20gif Or Quintin ForTUNE

If he had any clarity about how he wants to play he'd have made sure he got the players to fit his vision in the last two years. It's more likely he never really had any vision and keeps changing it every time a plan goes wrong, much like his management on the pitch over 90 mins. I guess this is the difference in perspective, because in the life cycle of a football club, two years isn’t that long. In fact, in any job, your first two years is often a learning experience in which you make mistakes. The real test is your ability to then put things right. Of course, your boss can decide to sack you and bring someone else in who’s going to start from scratch, but that’s not always the best move. Everyone seems to thing this view is beneath contempt for some reason. We've been conditioned to believe that two seasons is ages. I don't think 2 seasons is ages, I do think there should be some kind of visible strategy within 2 years

I will happily see us lose first 5 games next season to see the back of him and I hate seeing us lose (Although somewhat used to it these days)

I'm just not sure from First Team through to junior levels we are any further forward or whether we have gone backwards. I see nothing from him to suggest he knows how to integrate Sammy, Tav, Streete, Campbell, Ferguson, Inman or whoever into the first team. I fear he will always revert back to experienced first teamers like Jonas, Perch, Williamson instead of persevering, coaching and developing our young players. For our long term success we need these players coming through. Now these players may not be good enough, but that requires someone to be ruthless and get rid of them and put a strategy in place to allow young players to progress. We do see more players going on loan now, but I would like to see us send them out for full season loans at Championship level next season and look to progress them into the team.

Is he not yet another central midfielder? We've already got more than I think can fit in. If it was to get him and deploy him and Tiote with 3 attackers in front of them (And no I don't mean Jonas) then that may free us up and still maintain a solid midfield. Would not be against it as long as the attacking balance is there.

We've gone backwards this season, it's hard to argue that we've gone backwards overall IMO. really? I think all the good things we had have all but evaporated and that can happen in just one season. I wouldn't back all your hopes that he has just had one bad season. His managerial career tells us it tends to go down hill and he has no idea how to change it. Even last season despite position, the style of play was slowly dissolving and our organised approach also dissapeared. Have you seen anything in last 2 years that shows our club is evolving and becoming better, last season was mainly down to two prolific strikers hitting form at right times (Ba before xmas and Cisse after). Pardew had no idea how to integrate the two of them this season and resulted in Cisse being shunted out to right or even Shola ffs. For all the good last season, the bloke has shown he has no idea how to evolve the team and club

I could understand the stability thing and commend them if the manager was showing some signs of developing the club/team. Can anyone name one thing that is better/has evolved/is evolving that Pardew is directly responsible for. I only see de-evolution in terms of style etc. Under Hughton we at least had a style which included direct to Carroll with Nolan picking up pieces. Under Pardew we have lost all sense of style of play. We have potentially better players than Hughton had to work with but for me the team and club have gone backwards in Pardews 2.5 years in charge, therefore the stability argument does not hold up as he is not showing that stability long term will yield any kind of success and in fact is likely to send us back years and take years to repair the damage.