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Maybe not.

Liiks like Owl Face has done a Pardew.

I think the future looks rosy for England, I really do. With a decent managerial appointment after Owl Face, I honestly believe we can start challenging for tournaments.

We've been superb despite having Beavis and Butthead up front.

Rooooooonnnnnneeeyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!

remember 73? I reckon you're probably one of about 5 people on here that remember 73. I can. First time I was allowed to stay up late on a school night.

Schoolboy error sending your full back up for a corner without having someone cover him

With a name like that he's bound to be pals with Poyet.

If the cap fits.

It's an unfortunate side effect of last season's awfulness that not being overtly 'anti-Pardew' results in you being labelled a 'WUM' or a 'soopafan'. Coming around to the idea that it's probably best to leave the debate until his inevitable sacking and then we can move onto the next useless daftie. Certain posters perpetuated the soopafan myth themselves though. Correction, a certain poster perpetuated the soopafan myth himself.

It's all part of the stay up by investing as little as possible strategy.

The programme seller had as much involvement in the game. Virtually played with 10 men such was his anonymity.

That article is from weeks ago. Krul Holland Debuchy France Santon Italy Coloccini Argentina Yanga Mbiwa France Cabaye France Anita Holland Tiote Ivory Coast Sissoko France Remy France Cisse Senegal Ben Arfa France Gutierrez Argentina Except Gutierrez, all fairly current Internationals. We shouldn't be playing in a style comparable to Dave Bassett's teams but we did for the majority of last season. Some of those didn't make the current squads and most of them didn't start games. We've got a couple of internationals who play when they're fit....if that. Remarkable to read the stick given individually to Jonas, Cisse, Tiote etc. on the one hand but then to read they are top internationals that exemplify Pardew's inability. It doesn't matter if they werent selected this week, last month or whenever. They are all International players which generally means they're not League 2 clogger standard. Yet the manager last season wanted them to play in a style akin to that. Only when Williamson, Simpson Taylor and co were getting games. Ever since the January window we've tried to play a game more befitting their upgrades. Nah.Simply not true. This season since the West Ham game maybe.

That article is from weeks ago. Krul Holland Debuchy France Santon Italy Coloccini Argentina Yanga Mbiwa France Cabaye France Anita Holland Tiote Ivory Coast Sissoko France Remy France Cisse Senegal Ben Arfa France Gutierrez Argentina Except Gutierrez, all fairly current Internationals. We shouldn't be playing in a style comparable to Dave Bassett's teams but we did for the majority of last season. Some of those didn't make the current squads and most of them didn't start games. We've got a couple of internationals who play when they're fit....if that. Remarkable to read the stick given individually to Jonas, Cisse, Tiote etc. on the one hand but then to read they are top internationals that exemplify Pardew's inability. It doesn't matter if they werent selected this week, last month or whenever. They are all International players which generally means they're not League 2 clogger standard. Yet the manager last season wanted them to play in a style akin to that.

That article is from weeks ago. Krul Holland Debuchy France Santon Italy Coloccini Argentina Yanga Mbiwa France Cabaye France Anita Holland Tiote Ivory Coast Sissoko France Remy France Cisse Senegal Ben Arfa France Gutierrez Argentina Except Gutierrez, all fairly current Internationals. We shouldn't be playing in a style comparable to Dave Bassett's teams but we did for the majority of last season.

Pardews rubbish, agreed.....why's he still in a job again? This isn't a chicken and egg debate folks, Ashley wants a yes man who will deliver premier league survival. I want more than that and so do all you lot, but Pardew remains in his job. Most of you lamenting some of the woeful stuff we've turned in in the last 12 months barely mention Ashley as being the real problem. Every criticism of Pardew without reference to the man who keeps someone with such limited ability in a job is utterly pointless. Not good for a debating forum I know, but the fact remains, heavy criticism of Pardew misses the point by a million miles. Not with the quality of the players he has it doesn't. And all of what Ashley is about Pardew has been complicit with anyhow. So your post has no real point at all.

Unfortunate choice of endearing name there Turnbull.

Wor ex used to live in the apartment above Athol Still....Svengali's agent IIRC Athol Still used to be an ITV commentator on swimming or maybe athletics when I was a kid

The team is full of ACTUAL Internationals, not perceived ones you duck egg. :-[

Thats pretty fat from the bigger picture iyam. The bigger picture is Mike Ashley wont pay for a better manager than the rather limited Pardew. People on forums such as this think they're clever pointing out every mistake Pardew makes, frankly just to show off "how much they know about football", yet barely utter a word about the bloke who continues to employ him. Pretty bizzare. We've tried to play better football this season, and it has showed in some games. Thing is when we concede a goal heads drop. The greatest players are great because they've got heart as well as ability. Difficult to teach grown men heart tbh. He's given Pardew a team full of internationals. Pardew cannot be exonerated from the shite his team generally serves up.The team is full of class. Remember how Pardew had Hayden Mullins and Marlon Harewood keep Javier Mascherano and Carlos Tevez out of his West Ham team. Pardew doesn't have the qualities needed to manage this class of player. I imagine if I were a Cabaye or a Coloccini , I'd find it nigh on possible to take on board the opinions of such a proven shit manager.

James Quinn former Norn Iron international. Andy Blair.Terry Angus. All household names 8)

I was putting Australia, began thinking of America and got sidetracked.

The fact is we have a squad full of International players....not Internationals from Haiti or Papua New Guinea or even Austria. Internationals from countries with good footballing pedigree. France, Argentina, Italy and Holland. Countries that do well in World Cups. So to an extent, the under investment is moot. What isn't moot is that generally, with this current manager pulling the strings, we play football not suited to World Cups and European Championships or Copa Americas, but to Conferance level. High , long aimless balls to nobody. We've had a season where we've finished just above the relegation places due to the manager not being able to get anything like the best from these players. They cannot be bad players, as their tally of caps show so we have to assume that the Manager isn't doing his job correctly. Or more to the point, look at his career history and you'd fairly summise, he's not able to do his job correctly. That is the bigger picture irrespective of what the Pardew fanboys will have you believe.

Get the fuck in. COME ON ENGLAND!!!

Ordinarily people live and learn, but you, you just live. I'm not saying you're stupid, but I am thinking it. Some drink from the fountain of knowledge but it looks like you just gargled. (If he shows his face again after these put-downs he's a better man than me.) Still here. Realise it's a big ask though. Just waiting for someone to post the Mackem boom/bust cycle thing now. I admire your optimism but he still has the appalling squad Musso put together . If he can get to January not too far from safety maybe Short will splash out but it is hard to be confident when you don't know whether Poyet has the qualies that a Premiership manager needs.