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Fair point brett. ive passed the tipping point tho.

I still want Paindew sacked...one awful preformance, spunky win v a 4th division side changes fuck all.

Tbf he isnt human.

Big mikes budget is getting tighter...loans maybe our only option...whats our current salary status like?

If he came back ... It would be Remy Ba HBA Forward 3...no point playing cisse, dont play to his strengths.

Needs dropping and re-booting. Switch it off an on again pet.

Ba in the middle as it suits our style of play. remy n ben arfa on esch flank of the ftont 3

I have to use my wild card this week! Buggers!

Ba hahaha

Wont be coming anyway.

He'd not be able to run the club on shoe string if the season ticket money went up in smoke. Funding a club with TV money alone and small crowds wouldn't work.

He nailed the chosen to a cross before he did one tho. Apparently. Well there is defintiely more blood to be shed before the end. We in a war of attrition. 35k season ticket sales say he is winning.

He nailed the chosen to a cross before he did one tho. Apparently.

Hodgson described it as 'by far the best game of the PL season so far' going on to add that there was some 'outstanding individual performances'. He is a fucking frog with a wig. Best game so far has been Cardiff v man City.

The club's not worth 300m. Huh? My point is this: why would a company with 100 million in debt and posting yearly losses be MORE valuable to a prospective buyer than one (same assets) with no debts and posting a 20 million or so yearly profit? Can see your point but I think the key to this is that it has always been assumed that Ashley would aim at least to get back what he had spent on the club. So say he spent £140 million buying it and then put another £110 in as loan, he's out of pocket by £250 million. So if he's selling the club then the assumption is he's want that sum (at least) for the club to cover his costs. On the other hand if he ever manages to recover all of the debt out of the clubs cash flows then he would only be out of pocket by £140 million. So if he sold the club at that point for say £200 million he's made a £60 million profit overall. And potentially therefore the asking price for the club could be less without the debt. I don't know if that helps... He could, say in 5 years have the debt cleared by running us on the bare minimum...Once its all paid off, why sell? Could be a nice little earner and free sponsorship for his flagship company. The club (business) has paid for itself and is now passing profit his way without having to do much. The next TV deal will only get bigger imho...BT are going to push sky and with the economy slowly picking up it could be a good earner for Ashley. He could be here 20 years or more. I've been saying that for a while. If you have a business earning you twenty mil a year, why would you get rid? The sale value would massively go up.

That's what I'm getting at. It's a conflict of interests. Correct, still an alright pundit compared to the dross on the BBC.

No other pundits do, they dont want upset their mates!

The club's not worth 300m. Huh? My point is this: why would a company with 100 million in debt and posting yearly losses be MORE valuable to a prospective buyer than one (same assets) with no debts and posting a 20 million or so yearly profit? Can see your point but I think the key to this is that it has always been assumed that Ashley would aim at least to get back what he had spent on the club. So say he spent £140 million buying it and then put another £110 in as loan, he's out of pocket by £250 million. So if he's selling the club then the assumption is he's want that sum (at least) for the club to cover his costs. On the other hand if he ever manages to recover all of the debt out of the clubs cash flows then he would only be out of pocket by £140 million. So if he sold the club at that point for say £200 million he's made a £60 million profit overall. And potentially therefore the asking price for the club could be less without the debt. I don't know if that helps... He could, say in 5 years have the debt cleared by running us on the bare minimum...Once its all paid off, why sell? Could be a nice little earner and free sponsorship for his flagship company. The club (business) has paid for itself and is now passing profit his way without having to do much. The next TV deal will only get bigger imho...BT are going to push sky and with the economy slowly picking up it could be a good earner for Ashley. He could be here 20 years or more.

Maybe once, but I genuinely don't believe we have that potential any more. A lot of fans will never return fully, they know the next shitstorm would just be round the corner. Also loads of other clubs have stolen the march abroad and we won't ever get a foothold in those markets. Most we can ever expect is to pop in and out of the CL, maybe win the FA cup. Nah, i think its there but will take some real doing. I think the sigh of relief (if) when ashley leaves will be massive...until we find out the new buyer is another cluess pleb.

Wants his money out...if he reinvested what the club makes on its own and allowed sponsor space on th stadium we could generate enough to pay him back quicker and maybe be a better product to sell. Madness, we've done all this before. Wants his cash back asap, the club and fans will sufer as he plays the dangerous game of running it on a shoe string. Like a taxi driver putting the bare minimum of petrol into his car for a nights work...he'll end up running out one night.

I thought it was 60 mil per season for 3 seasons. Could pay it off tgat way but we would be on the bones of our arse for 3 more season...while every other team progresses. Ashley will be nearing being paid off tho

Depends...he may take a massive slice of our new tv deal money to help reduce it. We aint makin any progress until he gets his money back or reduces it by a large amount. plucking a radom figure out of my arse...id say another 5 years.

Didnt the article on TF say he took 11 million out instead of 18, so we could buy the players in january... Mike Ashley's pocket first club second.

Wont happen.

Way to long