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Yeah. That's the irony. Ashley Young does down at the drop of a hat. Nobody seems to really mention that, though

Why not? It's Man U, they're all plastic, gutless wankers. A lot of them are, not all, though. It is the ones who aren't that I feel sorry for.

I know pretty much all home supports are like this, but I can't believe 72,000 people can conspire to produce such a flat atmosphere.

It was good to see him pull Rooney up, but Atkinson is giving them a free kick every time one of their players goes down

FUCKING BEAUTY!

I assumed that was just my stream. It was spooky without any. Naturally now I can hear it, I'm annoyed at the commentators. That's exactly what I was thinking. First: "Oh, good, no inane commentary" 5 mins later: "This is spooky" Another 5 mins later: "Ah, they're back" One min after: "Christ, they're annoying"

I assumed that was just my stream.

League, monkeynuts.

Incidentally, the last time I ever saw us beat Man U (at the match) was 1984 when Didier Six made his debut. That's depressing (we've beaten them since, I just always missed them)

This is our best chance in a long while. 2-0 routine win for them.

I like watching Spurs this season, they're probably the most entertaining team to watch, I'd say, and they have a chance to do very well, but I was just looking at the list of teams they have beaten this season: Wigan Sunderland Portsmouth Burnley Birmingham West Ham Hull Liverpool and it doesn't really look that impressive.

I think you're right, he probably gets treated harshly, but if he does it is largely because he's shown himself so willing to use his elbows. I like him, he's a very good player, but it's pretty hard to argue against the elbow thing when the evidence is there for all to see.

Lots of good ideas here, but for me, no end of fiddling with competitions, domestic or European, is going to change things measurably. Two things we need - salary cap, transfer limits. And I say that as a supporter of a club with a rich, benevolent owner. It is ruining football to the point at which it just becomes a rich man's plaything, about as much of a "sport" as Formula One. Provincial, mildly successful businessmen we scorned in the past - Ellis, Swales, Edwards (Louis), the one Cloughie used to argue with at Derby, that lot - might have been small time in their thinking, but at least back then we had a league where clubs like Nottingham Forest could come from nowhere and win the league. For all the new money in the game these days, we may have a shiny, spangly, well marketed competition, but unless you support one of four clubs, you're largely insignificant.

Yeh you're right. It's just we should have beaten Villa, United, and Everton today but the chances we keep missing is a joke. That's football i guess. I was thinking the same earlier. I didn't see today's game, but you should have beaten us, and you had all the possession against Man United, I thought, and looked the more composed team Not being confrontational, and this is a broad brush strokes claim, but that's a flaw I've seen in Spurs sides for decades - good football, plenty of the ball, use it well, but don't press the advantage. Still, Redknapp has you playing good football at the moment. Huddlestone impresses me a lot.

In fairness, he has produced pretty much every game this season, and even on occasions when he isn't at his best, his work rate is nothing short of phenomenal. I thought he was a good player when we had him on loan, still thought he was when he was with you, and still do now he's back with us. Admittedly I didn't (obviously) see as much of him when he was with Newcastle as you lot did, but seeing the way he is playing now, I was probably right to feel that way. I don't really think it is down to playing in a better team - when he was with us on loan he was in a shit team with shit players, don't forget. I can't help but feel most of the reason he didn't produce with you was down to shit coaching. He's being coached by John Robertson now - another slow, unglamorous player who turned out to be one of the best wingers in our league for years. I don't think Milner crosses anything like as well as Robertson did as a player, but he's certainly getting something out of our coaching. Mind you, I've also heard our training sessions consist of Steve Walford doing most of the coaching, John Robertson standing on the touchline chain smoking and occasionally shouting stuff, and MON locked away in his office reading true crime books, so the above is probably nonsense. I'd like to see him in the WC squad, but if we have one player who really deserves to go to South Africa above all others, it is prob Stephen Warnock who has been absolutely superb. If Bridge gets the nod ahead of him, I'll be most disappointed.

Has the Liverpool game genuinely not been on yet? I can't believe they're on after Bolton v the Dogheads.

Ha ha, this is making me chuckle alright. Fuck you Benitez, you fat cunt.

In fairness, O'Neill only played him through the middle for the first time four days ago.

^^^ and has been our best player this season. He's looked super in central midfield the last couple of games. Watch his pass for Dunne's goal and his lob for his own goal on MOTD tonight.

Beye is an important contributor to a pretty strong defensive squad, and is probably realising he won't play anything like every game unless he does exceptionally well. He did well at Portsmouth on Tuesday by all account, but was playing because Warnock was ill, and Luke Young got shunted to LB to cover (Bouma not back, Shorey on loan). As I said, though, defensively we've got an awful lot of options, so nobody is going to be an automatic first choice, with the possible exception of Warnock at the moment (who has been superb all season, as it happens), because of the lack of cover at LB.

Not only did he score, he was absolutely superb from start to finish. Our best player by far this season

Chelsea are vile in every way. Horrible, arriviste, classless band of weasels.

Did very well today, I thought. Milner played through the middle and Young and Downing wide, but they switched wings quite a lot. Milner was MotM by a country mile, though. Finally, today and against Portsmouth, we've found some form and actually played some really nice football, for a change.

Feel so sorry for him. He got a fantastic reception (well, the reverse of a reception) from our lot as he went off today. You could see the guy was in tears as he realised what had happened. Felt really bad for him.

Watch Milner's goal on MOTD today. Funniest thing I have seen for ages. Hull keeper comes tearing out of his goal to head it into touch. Steve Sidwell, who is a substitute, just so happens to be warming up there and catches it. He throws the ball to Agbonlahor, Agbonlahor takes the quick throw to Milner who superbly lobs the keeper as he is racing back. Incidentally, Milner was absolutely top notch today, really superb.