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toonarmy

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  1. I guess Rossi was on the bench, because he just came in the game for Gattuso. Should be an interesting rest of the half. US aren't just totally sitting back deep, which is a good thing. Can barely tell they only have 10.

  2. Kaka goal on the pen kick in injury time. Nice finish.

     

    Keeper almost had it, a little heart breaking for Egypt.

     

    Absolutely. Egypt certainly deserved a draw, if not the win, for outplaying Brazil. Played them off the pitch in the second half. Set pieces were their undoing, if not for that, Egypt would have won in a rout. With the way Egypt is playing, if the US shows up, this could be one of the strongest Group of Deaths I've ever seen.

  3. All power to him if he wants to take action, more people should challenge this sort of thing in Europe.

     

    Will be difficult to prove unless he has witnesses... and ones that are willing to come forward at that. Although civil action is different to criminal isn't it, it can be decided on balance of probability or something like that?

     

    Pretty sure the extent of the damage can be estimated on the basis of probability (i.e. the extent of emotional damage caused, in this case), but the issue of whether racial slurs were used would need to be proven beyond reasonable doubt before it could go any further, just like in a criminal law case.

     

    I would guess that the point of bringing the action here isn't really to win the case. I'm sure the lawyers would know that is difficult without proof, and in any case, what would he hope to win monetarily that would really matter to him? I would think the point is to name and shame, causing such relatively wealthy players to lose the only thing that matters to them right now (their reputation), thus discouraging future actions like this. He may not be able to technically win, but he can easily win in the court of public opinion, which could be worth more to him.

     

    call a black man black and its racism. Call a white man white and who cares?

     

     

    overreaction.

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    BTW: BIG no to racism.

     

     

    Singling someone out isnt the right way to go. it has to start at young ages and teach kids thats racism has no place in football, or anywhere else in 2009 and on.

     

    It wasn't that he was called black or white. He was called (allegedly) a "black monkey". Obviously the point of that statement was for racial abuse, not to point out his skin color. The idea was to get under his skin with these kinds of comments, and there's no place for that. Singling him out is worthwhile, because while yes you are right that it needs to start at the child level, as long as there are adult role models who continue such actions, it will never go away, and the only way to do so is to start and address it one at a time.

  4. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=652062&sec=americansabroad&&cc=5901

    BRUSSELS -- U.S. defender Oguchi Onyewu is suing an Anderlecht player over an alleged racial insult, hoping the case will help eradicate on-field racist abuse in European soccer.

     

    Onyewu, who plays for Standard Liege, says Anderlecht's Jelle Van Damme called him a "dirty monkey" during the Belgian league playoffs. Van Damme has denied the allegations and said he is not a racist.

     

    Onyewu's lawyer, Jean-Louis Dupont, lodged a complaint with a Brussels court Tuesday.

     

    "He was convinced it was his duty to lodge the complaint," Dupont said. "It is not a question whether Van Damme is racist. The issue is that these slurs are still used on the pitch, and are being used because they know it hurts."

     

    Onyewu completed five days of training in Miami on Sunday with the U.S. soccer team. He is preparing for the June 14-28 Confederations Cup in South Africa and two World Cup qualifiers.

     

    Onyewu is one of the top defenders in the Belgian league and has made 40 international appearances for the U.S., starting in all three games of the 2006 World Cup.

     

    The incidents occurred during the opener of a two-game playoff series between Standard Liege and Anderlecht to decide the Belgian league on May 21.

     

    In three separate incidents during the tense 1-1 draw, Onyewu claims Van Damme called him a "monkey." Onyewu alerted the referee but the match was not interrupted. At one point, Onyewu threatened to leave the field but "the teammates convinced him to stay," his court complaint said.

     

    Standard Liege beat Anderlecht 1-0 in the return leg, giving the 27-year-old Onyewu his second league title in as many years.

     

    Beyond seeking personal reparation, Onyewu "wants to contribute to eradicate such behavior in football," his court papers said.

     

    "A great many lesser-known African players don't have the stature to publicly denounce the insult they suffer on the pitch," Dupont said. "With Oguchi, it is different."

     

    Anderlecht said it had yet to be informed of the court case. The team said Van Damme had told the referee at the playoff game he made no such comments.

     

    Unlike the racist chants that cascade from the stands in some European nations, the racist taunts on the field are often whispered in a player's ear when referees are out of earshot.

     

    Racism from the stands has been going for years, with fans making money chants and throwing bananas at black players. Soccer officials have long condemned it and fined clubs.

     

    Although not racist, the most famous case of onfield taunting came at the 2006 World Cup final. Italian defender Marco Materazzi got under Zinedine Zidane's skin and the Frenchman headbutted him. Zidane was sent off and Italy went on to win the cup.

     

    Shame this kind of thing still goes on, and not even just from the fans.

  5. Being drunk by 10 am on a Sunday is going to take a serious and professional effort.

     

    I'm gonna drink a fifth of vodka, dare me to drive?

     

    Nice choice of Eminem lyrics. But I doubt I will even bother sleeping Saturday night. Just stay out hammered until 4 or 5 AM (gotta love New York), worry for a few hours, then had back to the bar and drink myself stupid.

  6. FYI - the game will be live shown live on Setanta 1 in North America. 7AM PT - which is better than 5AM.

     

    I have no idea how you west coast Mags do it. I have a hard enough time getting up and down to the bar by 10 AM here in NY.

     

    We absolutely need a point, I have a feeling Hull will get exactly 1 more point from their last two, probably tomorrow. We're obviously likely safe with a win, but I think a draw could certainly easily be enough. Of course, still have to play for the win, same as we played against Boro, but I wouldn't be too upset with a draw (assuming of course that Bolton don't screw the pooch and lose to Hull).

  7. Barcelona :

     

    Possession 70.9

    Passing Success 87.7

     

    O0

     

    This is one of the reasons I'm ecstatic that Barca are going through. ManU and Barca will have some real firepower, it should be fun with both teams really going for the win, not just sitting back and hoping for penalties. Based on the way Barca play, it's a real joy to watch them.

     

    That said, Chelsea were absolutely robbed. Sure, Chelsea played ugly in the first leg, but they did what they set out to do. Second leg, scored a great goal, and then played defense and counterattacking, which based on their personnel, was the right strategy for them. Can't say I enjoy it, but they did the right thing. They had one stonewall penalty not given, and plenty of others that could have been and probably should have been, but that's irrelevant. They only needed one, and the ref absolutely screwed it up (the red card was also a screwup, and had the result gone differently, I'd be arguing that one as well, but as it is, its the penalties that matter). Quite simply, Chelsea executed their gameplan much better than Barca did and should have gone through but for the worst refereeing I've ever seen.

     

    But I still love the looks on the faces of those cheating cunts at Chelsea.

  8. player on barca who impressed me the most today was dani alves (I'm ignoring his overdramatized rolling around and screaming). I know how good messi and the stars are, but alves' crossing is brilliant, good defending on the other end as well.

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