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It's not the piracy issue that might block this, it's sections F.1.2 & F.1.3 seen above in the O&D test, and whether they think MBS would be able to directly/indirectly hold power or influence over Sheffield United.

We'll not be exploding in the same way, it will be expected. Not sure I agree with that. When we got promoted in 93 there was a definite feeling amongst the support that we were going to take the Premier League by storm in our first season. And we did.

The Keegan era was even better. Absolutely magical, even though I rate Robson as a better manager. I think Keegan sold Newcastle to the whole world, beyond winning titles. It probably has a lot to do with the likes of Stavely and the Saudis seeing our potential with this current takeover. Oy yeah, great post Theregulars, agree 100%. Kevin Keegan created the modern-day NUFC and it's his work alone that has allowed the club to remain high profile & still be seen as a big club, despite all of the disgrace of the last 13 years. The fact that mid 1990s NUFC is still long remembered by football fans is a testament to how much good KK did for this club. Anyone who was following the club pre-1992 knows the profound change Keegan brought to Newcastle United. He's probably the most important person in the club's entire history.

Just put into context that all I've know between the ages of 15 & 28 is Ashley. Utterly grim. My condolences.

I just want today's kids in the 18-30 bracket to experience what we did from 92 to 97, where NUFC exploded onto the scene, coming from nowhere to becoming one of the highest profile clubs in the country. The buzz in the city was just fantastic. I feel sorry for the poor sods who have grown up in the Ashley era. An utterly depressing experience throughout. It's time for them to see what this club is really about.

Beautiful.

That doesnt sound good from our point of view. Is it the Sheff Utd angle that could scupper this? How could the PL prove that MBS could be in a position to inappropriately influence events between NUFC and SUFC? Surely they cant just say "we think you will influence SUFC to do stuff that helps the cause of NUFC...and vice versa"?

Hairy Hands Keys saying it wont happen as "momentum" is gathering against it.

Anyone who says they are not even remotely concerned obviously hasn't been paying attention over the last few years.

Now they want Ellis Short to come back. https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/what-if-short-wanted-to-return.1515879/

Exactly. It's all utter bollocks. Other interested parties will be locked out of any chance of buying until the PL checks are complete and the current buyers have then had a short window to make the payment.

A good time for such a discussion would be when we have been sold, rather than beforehand. It's absolutely pointless unless the sale goes through. Aye, imagine it falls through? We’re already going to look like divvies, even more so after a mass debate about it. Caulkin simply has to know more than even he is letting on by going through with stuff like this when the deal hasn't even been offcially confirmed.

Bottom line is that we as fans are now on a knife edge. It's the all or nothing moment for many, many people because if this fails then those people will be done with football. Me being one of them. There is also the humiliation factor to consider too though. Because, across all social media platforms all of the major fans representatives are talking about the future of NUFC like this is a done deal. So we might not only have the heartbreak of a collapsed deal to contend with but also having to watch the rest of the football world mocking us once again. Personal and local pride is massively at stake here.

It's what happened last summer with BZG that is making people so twitchy and unconvinced that this is a done deal. And who can blame them? This situation is almost identical to that one last year, where we are relying on our "facts" from the press. Last year neither NUFC nor the buyer made a single official comment on the deal and the same is happening here. Yeah sure, there seems to have been a deposit made by the buyer but that still doesnt mean the deal wont collapse. On another note, I'd be absolutely staggered if the buyers have agreed to a period of exclusivity that could allow the PL to scupper the deal simply by taking too long to complete the tests. That just doesnt seem possible IMO.

Well the Mackem ITKs on RTG are saying the deal is off ....this post actually from a Mag who frequently kisses their arse... https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/march-to-may-2020-newcastle-ufc.1507830/post-31609679

All well and good, very logical. However you haven't factored into the equation that this is Newcastle United. The club that doesn't do logic. The club that routinely snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. So with that in mind it's impossible to ignore the nagging feeling that this will end up as another shambles. Are we really about to become the richest club in the game? Becoming a serious player on the world stage? After the last 13 years of torment it's difficult to believe we are on the cusp of such a monumental turnaround. So until it is confirmed there will always be that horrible dread that it will all turn to dust once again.

There are gonna be a helluva lot of people monumentally embarrased...and equally devastated...if this collapses now mind. Pretty much everyone on this forum & toontastic (including me, who has robustly reassured all of my deeply unconvinced & cynical mates that it will happen), George Caulkin, Michael Martin, True Geordie are just some of the ones that immediately come to mind. Because lets face it, practically everyone has been talking in terms of "deal 100% will happen" for at least week now. We may be about to give all of our haters their biggest hoot of them all. Doesn't even bear thinking about.

This right here is why we need to keep our feet firmly on the ground if this goes through. I well remember the feeling of gleeful optimism I had back in 2007....

Imagine if it was to say the deal is off.

Two reasons. Firstly, people are emotionally spent when it comes to this takeover bullshit and are not prepared to invest a shred more of energy on hoping for Ashley to go, hence why people will walk away from NUFC and football altogether if this deal collapses. Especially when there is absolutely no logical or legal reason for this to collapse anyway. If it does collapse it's due to corruption in the echelons of the English game. If we hadnt gone through the last 5 years or so of takeover fiascos then maybe people would still have the will to hold out for another group coming along, but we HAVE had the last 5 years of that and we can take no more of this crap. Secondly, it all comes down to hunch/gut feeling. This deal and these owners just feel right. You have Staveley, who has business acumen and first hand experience of the execution of a multi-million pound football takeover. Then you have the Reubens, who already are aquainted with developing this city and therefore have already shown their committment to it. And finally you have the Saudis, who have gargantuan wealth and are looking to diversify and make their country more diverse by engaging with the West on a deeper level.

How? Explain to me how a Level 7 tier....with the exact same capacity as the opposing Leazes End Level 7 tier...could be added to the Gallowgate Stand when there are office blocks 60 feet away. Even if they could come up with some wizardry that created a floating/hanging tier of that size it would still block out the light for that office block and would thus be objected to by the owner of said office block.

It has everything to do with English football because if the deal is rejected it will be due to corruption within the Premier League. Logically and legally there is simply nothing that should prevent the PIF bid from being accepted. If it is rejected then that is confirmation that the English game is truly bent.

It's the Staveley takover or nothing for me. I am not interested in what any other party have to offer and neither will I put myself through the emotional ringer for yet more weeks and months by checking the internet for "progress" updates of the next farce. Before this all kicked off a couple of weeks ago my interest in football was zero and in NUFC very little more than that. I was checking in to this place no more than twice a week and the lockdown had made me realise that I was truly ready to walk away from it all for good. The delirium of the last fortnight has pulled me right back in again but if this falls through then I will be even more bitter than I was just over two weeks ago and that will truly be the final straw. I wont watch a game of English football ever again. It's a PIF takeover or bust and I suspect many will be saying the same. I have nothing to prove as a NUFC supporter....been going since 1984 and have had all of the football-related despair that one person can take. This falls through and thats me over the edge and not coming back.

Nah, with Ashley Towers in place there is no way that Level 7 can be extended into a horseshoe like the image below. There simply would be no room to do it. And if your talking about some half-arsed expansion to gain a few thousand extra seats that would be pointless. And it still would do nothing for the overall look of the stadium as the Gallowgate would have a completely different roof to the other 3 sides of the ground. That entire land behind the Gallowgate is needed to complete the level 7 stand, and allow for a fan-zone and/or new club shop etc. http://i.imgur.com/mbxzmu3.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/ljiKPBh.jpg

Without a doubt. We need that land to extend level 7 to the Gallowgate end and the carpark land to be made into a fanzone. I know we as fans are pretty much protested-out but fans groups should be making noises to get this reversed. Reading that article is boiling my piss. Claiming the development will "improve the match-day experience". Fucking wankers and it sounds like a final "fuck you" from Ashley. "Ashley Towers" right outside SJP forever. Fucking horrendous.