Wandy

This is the thread to do exactly that though. I've already said that everything else about the club is perfect. Despite that, I'm still able to see that certain important stuff still needs addressing. A 6-1 mauling of the opposition isn't going to paper over that.

That's the issue though isn't it? The crowd reacts to match events, rather than being a part of them. As soon as the manic first 25 minutes were over the place fell flat.

The stadium being full of fuckers like you makes me miserable, you are spot on about that.

Nah. It's times like this that highlight the problem more intensely. The club is magnificent in every way except for what is happening in the stands. If the people who run the club don't know there is a problem then they won't bother addressing it.

Well it's clear that you have never experienced what being one is, but in a nutshell....you make an atmosphere with songs & chants, no matter what the score and/or how that match is going. For better or for worse.

"Any sporting contest". You are a sports fan. Not a football fan,

I'm sorry like, but if your not alarmed at a lack of home atmosphere when the team have just magnificently dismantled their main CL-qualifying rivals then I don't what else I can say.

Been going to games just for the last few years have we?

Imagine the current lot at Derby County away in 1992 man. They'd all have fucked off home after 30 minutes.

Nah, I just know what a proper atmosphere looks like. You clearly don't. Your second comment confirms exactly what is wrong with our support. "I will only make a contribution to the atmosphere under certain circumstances".

Hard to motivate yourself to sing songs when you are winning convincingly? Is that a serious comment? Is that an extra excuse to add to the list?

I got talking to someone recently who goes to matches. Barely ever been to games before this season and goes "cos it's something to do". Nothing wrong with that of course, but it's clear that SJP has a hell of a lot of these types of people now.

It's beyond a joke with the DJ now mind. I am actually surprised that Sky haven't had a word with the club because it's now affecting their coverage. At the end there, the players and interviewer couldn't hear each other because of the blaring music behind them. The home crowd are bang average and generic as fuck. The only way to start fixing it is to recognise the problem and address it, instead of making up bullshit excuses.

In games gone by it's been "we were nervous" and now for this one its "we were in shock". Quite impressive how people are coming up with excuses for bang average support. Think it's just best that everyone accepts that there are issues with our support that need addressing instead of making silly excuses. Being 5-0 up after 20 mins and SJP being flat is a new low. If the issue isn't addressed our home atmosphere is well on the way to being like Man City's. And we haven't even won owt yet. Said it before and will say it again. The fact that we have, for some reason, lost our songbook is making SJP go like a library far too often. That safe standing section can't come quick enough.

The home crowd had better be up for this tomorrow. None of this “we were nervous” crap. No excuses, just lift the team throughout.

I don't like it when everyone is lumping on us to win like this. They are very unpredictable and can still turn it on when they fancy it, and we all know that Kane & Son can win games on their own. In summary, I think this will be a lot tighter than most people are predicting.

Incredible that this lot will probably be back in a play-off spot tonight. Their season looked over just a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah I agree with this. The dippers will get at least 6 wins from their remaining games so I think we need to win 5 of our matches or we will get pipped.

I never knew that actually. I just saw a video of that Jamie Webster singing it in front of them and thought they had come up with it themselves.

Yeah that’s the one. Staggering really but I don’t think it was ever sung from a derogative perspective. Not that this made it remotely acceptable of course.

I absolutely hate that Hi Ho one that gets sung. Also that Mull of Kintyre shit from Forest. Absolute cringefest stuff.

Really? I might be thinking of a different song then. But the actual signing definitely put a big spoke in the wheel of our racist element back then.

Is the Allez Allez song not an original from the dippers? I have noticed that more fanbases are starting to plagiarise it, with Villa being one of the main culprits.

The Cunningham song was well intentioned but definitely of it’s time. His signing was the beginning of the end of the racist stuff from elements of our support though. And I’d say the Andy Cole signing effectively killed the racism stone dead.

Nope. The first one you mention used to be one of our biggest songs. Barely gets an airing now. Same with the Blaydon Races and also the plain old “Newcastle, Newcastle’ one. It’s really grim, and the only thing that can change it is by getting back the people who walked in sheer desperation over the Ashley era. What is your opinion of Villa’s modern support and songbook etc?