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Yeah, that rings a bell. The club withdrew the bid as they couldn't be arsed with the hassle.

I always thought it was hard to believe that the stadium proposed in 1997 would actually be able to hold 70,000 people. The footprint of it looked way too small. Whatever the new owners come up with would be a much better design than this IMO.

Yep, it's truly the perfect solution. If there wasn't the headache of the park being listed I've no doubt that the owners would be driving this forward quickly. I just hope the relevant authorities can come to a compromise. The new stadium could easily still be called SJP. It would literally be "moving" it 100 yards up.

This is the prime location for a Leazes move, and the new stadium would squeeze nicely in. The obstacle of course is swallowing up some of the park. Remedy that by making the current SJP land into new parkland, but maybe try to give it an "aged" look, to give the impression it's been there for decades.

I think option 2 is a bit pointless because they simply wouldn't go to that much trouble if they were still limited by space. They will be thinking 50 years ahead and they don't want to spend a billion on a stadium only to find you only get 10 years of it being good enough. If they do a rebuild on the same footprint you can guarantee that there will be an engineering project on that entire area that blows people's minds, and one which takes away the problem of limited space.

Exactly. I'm not even a City fan and I get annoyed when I hear that nonsense spouted about their fanbase.

I think quite a few existing ST holders might go for option 2, but not the wider fanbase. Thankfully, the club now seem to recognise that ST holders are not particularly the core of our support. In fact, these days a lot of them are probably the worst representation of it.

Their support is as good as ours man. We probably do have more potential than them to regularly fill a 70k stadium though.

Lol. We'll see.

I've got no doubt at all that he regrets saying that.

Have you got your account set up to receive third party emails? Apparently you need to, in order to have received the email.

That's incredible. Unfortunately I don't see us getting anywhere near that. And yeah, those low prices look suspiciously low. On the other hand, this goes back to my original point that the club might use huge corporate revenue to keep standard ticket prices low.

The fact that they bought back the Gallowgate land is another indicator of their intention to build/rebuild a stadium pretty near to where the current one is. NUFC are not leaving the city centre, people need to calm down with regards to that.

I think we are going to have to accept that a standard season ticket anywhere in a redeveloped stadium will be £1k per year tbh.

We wont obliterate them, even at full strength. It's probably going to be uncomfortably close. That's the main reason for needing to go full strength.

Doesn't really matter on how he was quoted. Redevelopment is still a form of development. Also, I doubt they had a plan set in stone when they first thought about this, They have been learning on the job. All of the current stands in SJP are antiquated. I don't see any way in which they can be modified to meet the standards of the world's best stadiums and deliver high-end corporate facilities. The cost alone of extending the Gallowgate by 8k seats will probably be one third of the cost of building an entire new stadium with a 75k capacity on roughly the same site, or on Castle Leazes.

Moving on to their 19th manager in 20 years. Shambolic.

I do think they have probably made the right decision. I also think the cup draw brought forward the plan to ditch him.

Agree. Although I can appreciate the effort made by the club, the simple fact is that fans left to their own devices will never agree on much and will usually act in their own self-interests. We can already see current ST holders have an I'm alright Jack attitude towards moving their seat, never mind moving to a new stadium. The club should just put forward their plan, give the reasoning for it, and take it from there.

"Redevelopment" probably meant a total rebuild though, ie a new stadium on the same site. The more I think about it, the more I am of the opinion that this survey is an indirect way of the club telling the fanbase that a new stadium needs to have a large corporate presence. And they obviously know that the average Joe is going to respond to the survey questions by saying they won't pay a fortune for a ST. They can then present the findings by saying that if the fans want the club to fulfil it's potential, with increased capacity, more revenue & better atmosphere then SJP in it's current form won't be able to deliver that. Interesting times. The fanbase' response to this could determine how much extra investment the Saudis will put in and how long they will stick around for.

It may be their thinking that having a significant corporate presence will allow standard ticketing to be kept at a “reasonable” level. This might well be the reasoning given for binning off SJP in its current state. An all new stadium, pretty much in the same area but with the scope to accommodate all class of fans in large numbers. The current stadium will simply never be able to do that.

With the new regulator coming in, they couldn’t move away from the city centre if the fan base opposed it. It’s not happening anyway, they know the city centre location is a dream spot. If anything, more clubs will look to get closer to their respective city centres if they are looking to relocate.

Mowbray wouldn’t have got them promoted so it’s a brave decision by their board. They must have someone lined up you would think. In no way should this make a difference to the derby. This isn’t 2015.

Yesterday’s draw sealed his fate, the poor sod. New manager bounce for the derby marra, works every time.

What’s happening on twitter? My other half got the survey and I filled it out on her behalf. I made it clear that a new stadium should be no more than 10 minutes walk from the existing site. Thought the survey in general was fine. Are people really twisting about this?