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Interesting. But for me Ginola was twice as good as ASM, as a player to actually watch anyway.

Your last sentence nails it. People imagine him becoming the player that he never will be.

I'd actually find that hard to believe, but whatever. David Ginola in his first few months at NUFC is still the most exciting player I have ever seen at the club. And after those months passed he merely went from magical to "just" fantastic.

That doesnt say much for his previous seasons then tbh. I go off what my eyes see anyway, rather than stats, and the only thing of note he did last season was the Man City performance and the goal at Wolves. Everything else I just found immensely frustrating and a general disappointment.

I understand the sentimental aspect of it completely. The lad was a beacon of hope in a time of utter gloom, but as the team has got better he has got worse. It's the wailing that we have made a huge mistake and have somehow let a top class player go that I have an issue with....not neceessarily on here, but on social media in general. But the simple truth is that he isnt good enough to make the next step up.

You'd think we weren letting peak David Ginola go, the way some have reacted.

Couldn't agree more.

In my 40 years of following NUFC he's one of the most overrated players I've encountered in a B&W shirt. The hysteria over this is absolutely mental. The gif below pretty much sums him up. Lots of fluff but not much end product.

Wow, that is outrageous.

Nobody knows. There are rumours of that but nothing confirmed. Personally I think there will be an announcement quite soon that the Qataris have got them.

The Man Utd takeover thread on Red Cafe is uncannily similar to ours was when everyone was going stir crazy. Hacks writing bullshit clickbait articles, Twitter bullshitters claiming to be ITK and lots of plane-spotting. Hopefully it takes the full 18 months like ours did, and they also get their "Saudis pull out" meltdown moment when all bidders seem to withdraw from the process, leaving the Glazers seemingly still there.

The Saudis aren't going anywhere, by the way, regardless of whether their league becomes the Super League. If all they wanted was to create a Super League then there was absolutely no need to buy NUFC. They want to own & influence as much of the west's treasures as possible, it's all part of their long term power-play. They have got their feet under the table now after a long slog and they won't give it up for a long time now. The EPL will always be one of the top leagues in the world and being a big player in it just gives them more power & influence.

Hahaha, dear God. Got to be one of the worst lines ever seen on this forum.

I'm sorry, but you are in denial. Yeah, people celebrated the departure of Ashley. But more significantly, they celebrated the arrival of vast wealth. Demand for tickets is high because of what the Saudis are (hopefully) going to do for the club. It's also delusional to suggest that any owner could deliver the club & stadium infrastructure that the Saudis have planned. Yes, Ashley could probably have delivered a similar season to the one we have just had. He could not have provided what is to come under the Saudis though. THAT is why people celebrated in 2021, and that is why the majority of the fanbase don't give a monkeys about the ownership either.

It's hardly a bubble. About 95% of people backed the takeover in that survey when the Saudis were trying to get the club. There is already an astronomical amount of people wanting to get back into SJP. We could sell out a 75k stadium right now, and probably even more. The bubble is the tiny minority who don't want the Saudis here. I'd wager that when these people say they are uncomfortable with the ownership, what they mean is that they are uncomfortable with all of the negative reaction that comes from the media & other fanbases. But they say they are "uncomfortable" with the ownership, simply to save face. If people were truly uncomfortable then they simply would stop their usual support of the club until a new ownership came along, it's that simple. My opinion. Personally, not only am I delighted that these people own us, I also get an extra buzz from the insincere wailing from the media & other fanbases about it all. It's the icing on the cake. No NUFC fan should feel guilt or discomfort at our ownership. Look at Man Utd fans, begging for the Qataris to take them over. And they haven't even gone 70 years without a trophy either.

Ask yourself this. How many people in the outside world have you encountered who say they are uncomfortable with the ownership?

You basically just spoke for 99% of the fanbase.

We are in a partnership with the country of Saudi Arabia. They provide us with the funding to rebuild our football club and we provide them with the exposure to help them build a sporting empire, and thus increase their overall power & influence within the western world. I don't have a problem with that at all. Having away kits that mimic the Saudi national team's, and hosting international games that feature their national team, is a very small concession to make. This thread is not an accurate reflection of the overall fanbase. The vast majority are not uncomfortable with these people as club custodians. In fact they very much want them to be here.

I don't know why any NUFC fan goes on there to have a sensible debate about us as they simply are not capable of it. Just log on, then cram into every post as much mockery and piss-taking of them as possible, until the inevitable petty ban drops down on you.

Seeing the way he speaks now, it's very easy to fall into the trap of thinking that he wasn't that bad for us. But the simple fact is that, if Eddie Howe had those players in 2011/12 he'd have got that team into the top 4 in that season, and top 6 for any season after that.

It will be Rigg. Not that surprised he hasn't come here because he'd be miles off a starting place. We could have bought him and loaned him out though.

Their hatred of the Saudis is based on thinly-veiled racism. They've now got a problem with Yasir Al-Rumayyan being addressed as "Your Excellency" by the NUFC interviewer, even though that's his title. You just know that these fuckers are itching to let loose and say that all Saudis are "dirty arabs" or suchlike.

They've blended it into the main thread on Parsnip. I'm genuinely intrugued to see how this lot will react if we start winning stuff. David Attenborough will need to do a documentary on it.

Someone I know went to our game at Spurs and wasn't impressed with the noise. One thing that perplexes me about that place is that it hasnt even got a roof that gives decent cover from the rain. It's like they designed it as if it was situated in Spain. If we get a new stadium then it had better have a proper roof, ie one that goes all the way up to the pitch and also keeps the sound locked in.

The general public will have their say, and there will undoubtedly be NIMBY killjoys who oppose it, but this isnt the debate. The only question that we are asking is whether the fans would want the move.