Wandy

Who gives a fuck. Anyone still planning on still following or caring about Ashley's NUFC in the Championship is a moron.

Well listening to this cheered me up no end. NOT. https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/nufc-podcast-takeovers-treason-what-is-going-on-at/id922005191?i=1000511743132 The special guest basically took a gigantic dump over today's procedings and pretty much wrote the takeover off.

That's brilliant from Jacobs tbh. Does away with all of the conspiracy theory stuff. Its in the lap of the Gods now. And, to be honest, I'm not at all confident of it going through.

Exactly what I was thinking.

"The Saudi takeover of NUFC no longer exists as a going concern. Ashley is pursuing damages on the grounds of restraint of trade. No-one should give a shit whether he gets what he wants on that front." IMTTS said no. Think this statement proves he is, as suspected, full of shit. He wont be seen round these parts for a while.

Yeah, I take back what I said about DeMarco just trying for compo. The good news is that the Saudis are still on board. The bad news is that the odds seem massively stacked against Ashley winning his case.

We aren't beating WBA. And as crazy as it might sound, I don't think Fulham losing last night did us any favours either. If they had put us in the bottom three the pressure for Bruce to be peddled would have been immense after not beating WBA. Now he will be allowed to plod on until it's too late. In short, we are going down IMO.

Don't believe a word of that. Why don’t you? I just don't believe Ashley would have agreed to a figure that high. It will be closer to half of that amount. The same idiot that gave pardew, carver, stone & woodman 8 year contracts with no clauses and had to pay them up in full. Aye I well believe it. Also wasn’t Rafa on £6m a year? He probably thought less was a bargain for Bruce We dont know what, if any, clauses were in their contracts. Dont get me wrong, Ashley is definitely stupid enough to have agreed to it. I just dont think he would have though.

Don't believe a word of that. Why don’t you? I just don't believe Ashley would have agreed to a figure that high. It will be closer to half of that amount.

Don't believe a word of that.

Ideal man? He's going to cost him £150m in lost value of the club man. Well he’s obviously clearly not that bothered about it is he. He hates us that much he won’t care if we go down. People forget just how much he hates us and how personal this is to him. If we go down he can just sell a few players and bank the parachute payments and he won’t be out of pocket much if at all. It will be us as usual that have to suffer. He hates us that much he is prepared for it to cost him £150m. Aye, righto. The parachute payments wont all come in one go and the players we have aren't worth much at all, so all of that won't be anywhere near £150m. The whole "he hates us" thing is bollocks too, he doesn't care either way. The man is simply as thick as a castle wall, nothing more than that. Aye righto? Aye that’s exactly what is actually happening. If you think he is prepared to watch NUFC halve in value simply because he "hates the fans" then you are genuinely off your nut. It is a ludicrous thing to think I would agree but what other explanation could there be because keeping Bruce in a job at this stage defies belief. Like I say, it's simply because he is an imbecile. Utterly out of his depth when it comes to how to run a football club. People way overthink Ashley's motives when it comes to NUFC.

Ideal man? He's going to cost him £150m in lost value of the club man. Well he’s obviously clearly not that bothered about it is he. He hates us that much he won’t care if we go down. People forget just how much he hates us and how personal this is to him. If we go down he can just sell a few players and bank the parachute payments and he won’t be out of pocket much if at all. It will be us as usual that have to suffer. He hates us that much he is prepared for it to cost him £150m. Aye, righto. The parachute payments wont all come in one go and the players we have aren't worth much at all, so all of that won't be anywhere near £150m. The whole "he hates us" thing is bollocks too, he doesn't care either way. The man is simply as thick as a castle wall, nothing more than that. Aye righto? Aye that’s exactly what is actually happening. If you think he is prepared to watch NUFC halve in value simply because he "hates the fans" then you are genuinely off your nut.

Ideal man? He's going to cost him £150m in lost value of the club man. Well he’s obviously clearly not that bothered about it is he. He hates us that much he won’t care if we go down. People forget just how much he hates us and how personal this is to him. If we go down he can just sell a few players and bank the parachute payments and he won’t be out of pocket much if at all. It will be us as usual that have to suffer. He hates us that much he is prepared for it to cost him £150m. Aye, righto. The parachute payments wont all come in one go and the players we have aren't worth much at all, so all of that won't be anywhere near £150m. The whole "he hates us" thing is bollocks too, he doesn't care either way. The man is simply as thick as a castle wall, nothing more than that.

Ideal man? He's going to cost him £150m in lost value of the club man.

If that happens doubt we’d stay up anyway even if Jones took over. After this week's events we aren't staying up under Bruce either. At least we get the satisfaction of seeing the prick peddled.

We need Fulham to dump us in the bottom three tonight and then a loss at WBA on Sunday to bring this shitshow to a head. If he's not sacked after that then everyone can forget about staying up and any takeover once and for all.

This won't have anything to do with what DeMarco is doing. What it is refering to is that with the club heading for relegation there are no buyers, confirming that the Saudis are not interested in buying us as a Championship club.

Said it before and I will say it again. When we are relegated the next carrot that will be dangled to keep the fans onside will be "the takeover will go through if we get promoted". So utterly predictable.

So that's him now gone from "definitely happening" to "it might not". This is where the slow deflation of the balloon officially begins then.

If it is, then you need to think about what is is that Nick de Marco is trying to do. I don't believe it's just to get compensation for Ashley and nothing else. It most likely is just about Ashley compo, but if they string the fans along it keeps them off his back and makes him look like he’s doing what he can to leave. It will get interesting if we go down. Ashley will want the loss of asking price or costs to get us back up. He won’t let that go and I don’t blame him. We go down it’s because we’ve become more of a zombie club than ever before, and we have the PL to thank for that. He'd get laughed out of court for blaming relegation on the PL, and rightly so. This relegation is solely on him and nobody else. As far as I am concerned this takeover is dead and buried now. DeMarco is there to get compensation and embarrass the PL. Nothing more in it than that. Based on what? All the best sources we have - Keith, Caulkin, Kennedy, Jacobs - think that Amanda is still trying to buy the club and they all agree that the legal proceedings are not limited to Fat Mike getting compensation. Even De Marco's own comments the other day suggest that this is not about compensation. He said, speaking in general terms, "Arbitration is risky so it's best to try and reach a deal without the need for it". Which seems more likely to you?: 1) George and Keith have contact with the buyers, albeit limited, and they know enough to know the deal is alive. or 2) George Caulkin is a pathological liar and is willing to destroy his well-earned reputation as the #1 NUFC journalist for twitter likes. Keith is also flat out lying and is willing to destroy his credibility as a local businessman. I don't think either of them are lying. I think they are being fed lies by Ashley and the buyers. What do you think Amanda's motivation for lying about this would be? Personally, I'd do Keith and George the favour of saying I don't think either of them are that stupid. However, if you think everyone who knows something has been lied to, then I'm afraid I've no comeback. I'm not in a position to disprove a speculative conspiracy theory. The whole takeover saga has been one gigantic conspiracy theory man. Caulkin was blatantly suckered by the buyers last summer. Which is why he has wislely said almost nothing ever since. I feel almost feel sorry for the Keith fella tbh. He is now coming across as someone who had no idea what he was getting into and it's all now way above his head. He put out an article a few weeks ago, quoting the buyers as saying, "We'll get it done", and, "Relegetaion would be a pain in the arse." I think simplest explanation is that Amanda is still trying to buy the club, there are complications standing in the way and it may or may not happen. No conspiracy needed. The difference is, last summer not only was he quoting the buyers he was positively booming that it would happen, based on what info he was getting. This time it's different, and more like "this is what they are saying, don't look at me if it's all bollocks".

If it is, then you need to think about what is is that Nick de Marco is trying to do. I don't believe it's just to get compensation for Ashley and nothing else. It most likely is just about Ashley compo, but if they string the fans along it keeps them off his back and makes him look like he’s doing what he can to leave. It will get interesting if we go down. Ashley will want the loss of asking price or costs to get us back up. He won’t let that go and I don’t blame him. We go down it’s because we’ve become more of a zombie club than ever before, and we have the PL to thank for that. He'd get laughed out of court for blaming relegation on the PL, and rightly so. This relegation is solely on him and nobody else. As far as I am concerned this takeover is dead and buried now. DeMarco is there to get compensation and embarrass the PL. Nothing more in it than that. Based on what? All the best sources we have - Keith, Caulkin, Kennedy, Jacobs - think that Amanda is still trying to buy the club and they all agree that the legal proceedings are not limited to Fat Mike getting compensation. Even De Marco's own comments the other day suggest that this is not about compensation. He said, speaking in general terms, "Arbitration is risky so it's best to try and reach a deal without the need for it". Which seems more likely to you?: 1) George and Keith have contact with the buyers, albeit limited, and they know enough to know the deal is alive. or 2) George Caulkin is a pathological liar and is willing to destroy his well-earned reputation as the #1 NUFC journalist for twitter likes. Keith is also flat out lying and is willing to destroy his credibility as a local businessman. I don't think either of them are lying. I think they are being fed lies by Ashley and the buyers. What do you think Amanda's motivation for lying about this would be? Personally, I'd do Keith and George the favour of saying I don't think either of them are that stupid. However, if you think everyone who knows something has been lied to, then I'm afraid I've no comeback. I'm not in a position to disprove a speculative conspiracy theory. The whole takeover saga has been one gigantic conspiracy theory man. Caulkin was blatantly suckered by the buyers last summer. Which is why he has wislely said almost nothing ever since. I feel almost feel sorry for the Keith fella tbh. He is now coming across as someone who had no idea what he was getting into and it's all now way above his head.

If it is, then you need to think about what is is that Nick de Marco is trying to do. I don't believe it's just to get compensation for Ashley and nothing else. It most likely is just about Ashley compo, but if they string the fans along it keeps them off his back and makes him look like he’s doing what he can to leave. It will get interesting if we go down. Ashley will want the loss of asking price or costs to get us back up. He won’t let that go and I don’t blame him. We go down it’s because we’ve become more of a zombie club than ever before, and we have the PL to thank for that. He'd get laughed out of court for blaming relegation on the PL, and rightly so. This relegation is solely on him and nobody else. As far as I am concerned this takeover is dead and buried now. DeMarco is there to get compensation and embarrass the PL. Nothing more in it than that. Based on what? All the best sources we have - Keith, Caulkin, Kennedy, Jacobs - think that Amanda is still trying to buy the club and they all agree that the legal proceedings are not limited to Fat Mike getting compensation. Even De Marco's own comments the other day suggest that this is not about compensation. He said, speaking in general terms, "Arbitration is risky so it's best to try and reach a deal without the need for it". Which seems more likely to you?: 1) George and Keith have contact with the buyers, albeit limited, and they know enough to know the deal is alive. or 2) George Caulkin is a pathological liar and is willing to destroy his well-earned reputation as the #1 NUFC journalist for twitter likes. Keith is also flat out lying and is willing to destroy his credibility as a local businessman. I don't think either of them are lying. I think they are being fed lies by Ashley and the buyers. What's the motive? To hide the fact that DeMarco is there simply to get compensation for Ashley. I wouldn't be surprised if Ashley has also struck up an arrangement to give Staveley her deposit back if he wins. The fans and media get used in order to keep the spotlight on the PL whilst distracting attention from the neglect to the playing side.

If it is, then you need to think about what is is that Nick de Marco is trying to do. I don't believe it's just to get compensation for Ashley and nothing else. It most likely is just about Ashley compo, but if they string the fans along it keeps them off his back and makes him look like he’s doing what he can to leave. It will get interesting if we go down. Ashley will want the loss of asking price or costs to get us back up. He won’t let that go and I don’t blame him. We go down it’s because we’ve become more of a zombie club than ever before, and we have the PL to thank for that. He'd get laughed out of court for blaming relegation on the PL, and rightly so. This relegation is solely on him and nobody else. As far as I am concerned this takeover is dead and buried now. DeMarco is there to get compensation and embarrass the PL. Nothing more in it than that. Based on what? All the best sources we have - Keith, Caulkin, Kennedy, Jacobs - think that Amanda is still trying to buy the club and they all agree that the legal proceedings are not limited to Fat Mike getting compensation. Even De Marco's own comments the other day suggest that this is not about compensation. He said, speaking in general terms, "Arbitration is risky so it's best to try and reach a deal without the need for it". Which seems more likely to you?: 1) George and Keith have contact with the buyers, albeit limited, and they know enough to know the deal is alive. or 2) George Caulkin is a pathological liar and is willing to destroy his well-earned reputation as the #1 NUFC journalist for twitter likes. Keith is also flat out lying and is willing to destroy his credibility as a local businessman. I don't think either of them are lying. I think they are being fed lies by Ashley and the buyers.

If it is, then you need to think about what is is that Nick de Marco is trying to do. I don't believe it's just to get compensation for Ashley and nothing else. It most likely is just about Ashley compo, but if they string the fans along it keeps them off his back and makes him look like he’s doing what he can to leave. It will get interesting if we go down. Ashley will want the loss of asking price or costs to get us back up. He won’t let that go and I don’t blame him. We go down it’s because we’ve become more of a zombie club than ever before, and we have the PL to thank for that. He'd get laughed out of court for blaming relegation on the PL, and rightly so. This relegation is solely on him and nobody else. As far as I am concerned this takeover is dead and buried now. DeMarco is there to get compensation and embarrass the PL. Nothing more in it than that. Based on what? All the best sources we have - Keith, Caulkin, Kennedy, Jacobs - think that Amanda is still trying to buy the club and they all agree that the legal proceedings are not limited to Fat Mike getting compensation. Even De Marco's own comments the other day suggest that this is not about compensation. He said, speaking in general terms, "Arbitration is risky so it's best to try and reach a deal without the need for it". Based on the reality of what is happening in front of our eyes. Ashley is allowing the club to slide into the bottom three without any urgency to halt the problem. There's no money coming into the club so he's not going to fork out even more in compensation packages for sacked managers and coaches. I think that the Keith fella has been led a merry dance by Ashley actually. He's probably being used by Ashley as a pawn to secure his compo deal. Journalists are being strung along to feed the fans with takeover hope to ensure there is little heat applied regarding the club's performances on the pitch. Benitez going to another club will be the next nail hammered into the coffin. If this deal was anywhere near close to reality as we have been led to believe the buyers would have been working in conjunction with Ashley to keep a relegation battle at bay.

If it is, then you need to think about what is is that Nick de Marco is trying to do. I don't believe it's just to get compensation for Ashley and nothing else. It most likely is just about Ashley compo, but if they string the fans along it keeps them off his back and makes him look like he’s doing what he can to leave. It will get interesting if we go down. Ashley will want the loss of asking price or costs to get us back up. He won’t let that go and I don’t blame him. We go down it’s because we’ve become more of a zombie club than ever before, and we have the PL to thank for that. He'd get laughed out of court for blaming relegation on the PL, and rightly so. This relegation is solely on him and nobody else. As far as I am concerned this takeover is dead and buried now. DeMarco is there to get compensation and embarrass the PL. Nothing more in it than that.