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All well and good, very logical. However you haven't factored into the equation that this is Newcastle United. The club that doesn't do logic. The club that routinely snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. So with that in mind it's impossible to ignore the nagging feeling that this will end up as another shambles. Are we really about to become the richest club in the game? Becoming a serious player on the world stage? After the last 13 years of torment it's difficult to believe we are on the cusp of such a monumental turnaround. So until it is confirmed there will always be that horrible dread that it will all turn to dust once again.

There are gonna be a helluva lot of people monumentally embarrased...and equally devastated...if this collapses now mind. Pretty much everyone on this forum & toontastic (including me, who has robustly reassured all of my deeply unconvinced & cynical mates that it will happen), George Caulkin, Michael Martin, True Geordie are just some of the ones that immediately come to mind. Because lets face it, practically everyone has been talking in terms of "deal 100% will happen" for at least week now. We may be about to give all of our haters their biggest hoot of them all. Doesn't even bear thinking about.

This right here is why we need to keep our feet firmly on the ground if this goes through. I well remember the feeling of gleeful optimism I had back in 2007....

Imagine if it was to say the deal is off.

Two reasons. Firstly, people are emotionally spent when it comes to this takeover bullshit and are not prepared to invest a shred more of energy on hoping for Ashley to go, hence why people will walk away from NUFC and football altogether if this deal collapses. Especially when there is absolutely no logical or legal reason for this to collapse anyway. If it does collapse it's due to corruption in the echelons of the English game. If we hadnt gone through the last 5 years or so of takeover fiascos then maybe people would still have the will to hold out for another group coming along, but we HAVE had the last 5 years of that and we can take no more of this crap. Secondly, it all comes down to hunch/gut feeling. This deal and these owners just feel right. You have Staveley, who has business acumen and first hand experience of the execution of a multi-million pound football takeover. Then you have the Reubens, who already are aquainted with developing this city and therefore have already shown their committment to it. And finally you have the Saudis, who have gargantuan wealth and are looking to diversify and make their country more diverse by engaging with the West on a deeper level.

How? Explain to me how a Level 7 tier....with the exact same capacity as the opposing Leazes End Level 7 tier...could be added to the Gallowgate Stand when there are office blocks 60 feet away. Even if they could come up with some wizardry that created a floating/hanging tier of that size it would still block out the light for that office block and would thus be objected to by the owner of said office block.

It has everything to do with English football because if the deal is rejected it will be due to corruption within the Premier League. Logically and legally there is simply nothing that should prevent the PIF bid from being accepted. If it is rejected then that is confirmation that the English game is truly bent.

It's the Staveley takover or nothing for me. I am not interested in what any other party have to offer and neither will I put myself through the emotional ringer for yet more weeks and months by checking the internet for "progress" updates of the next farce. Before this all kicked off a couple of weeks ago my interest in football was zero and in NUFC very little more than that. I was checking in to this place no more than twice a week and the lockdown had made me realise that I was truly ready to walk away from it all for good. The delirium of the last fortnight has pulled me right back in again but if this falls through then I will be even more bitter than I was just over two weeks ago and that will truly be the final straw. I wont watch a game of English football ever again. It's a PIF takeover or bust and I suspect many will be saying the same. I have nothing to prove as a NUFC supporter....been going since 1984 and have had all of the football-related despair that one person can take. This falls through and thats me over the edge and not coming back.

Nah, with Ashley Towers in place there is no way that Level 7 can be extended into a horseshoe like the image below. There simply would be no room to do it. And if your talking about some half-arsed expansion to gain a few thousand extra seats that would be pointless. And it still would do nothing for the overall look of the stadium as the Gallowgate would have a completely different roof to the other 3 sides of the ground. That entire land behind the Gallowgate is needed to complete the level 7 stand, and allow for a fan-zone and/or new club shop etc. http://i.imgur.com/mbxzmu3.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/ljiKPBh.jpg

Without a doubt. We need that land to extend level 7 to the Gallowgate end and the carpark land to be made into a fanzone. I know we as fans are pretty much protested-out but fans groups should be making noises to get this reversed. Reading that article is boiling my piss. Claiming the development will "improve the match-day experience". Fucking wankers and it sounds like a final "fuck you" from Ashley. "Ashley Towers" right outside SJP forever. Fucking horrendous.

There is not a chance that the Gallowgate can be extended with those office blocks across the road. Personally I hate the lopsided look of SJP. It just looks a mish-mash to me.

Takeover or not, looks like any hope of extending Level 7 to the Gallowgate are over. I really hoped that the new owners would reverse this. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/strawberry-place-newcastle-united-takeover-18146987 We aren't getting a new stadium any time soon so SJP is forever to look lopsided and unfinished.

Withoubt a doubt. Imagine going to that much trouble to pour cold water on the future of NUFC. Just shows how rattled some of them are.

I'm either reading it wrong or he is in no way pretending? It's a Newcastle United "fan" painting the takeover in the gloomiest light possible and lauding Ashley as a good owner. Even says NUFC were a "proper club" under Ashley. It's either a Mackem pretending to be NUFC fan. Or a NUFC fan, pretending to be a Mackem, pretending to be NUFC fan. That's what it's like on there.

Look at this sad bastard pretending to be a NUFC fan. Could he be more obvious? https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/march-and-april-2020-newcastle-ufc.1507830/post-31530004 https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/march-and-april-2020-newcastle-ufc.1507830/post-31534855

The meltdown commencing nicely https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/nufc-most-dense-fans-in-the-country.1513606/post-31527280

It's short termism, papering over the cracks. A decision made on the hoof without any real thought for the long term implications just like everything else that Ashley does. Does he really think that Steve Bruce's well known 2nd-half-of-the-season magic is going to tempt these people to actually buy a ticket next season? If so, he will be disappointed. All this will do now is show people that club will give away freebies if necessary. So they will sit and wait for the next handout.

Just been offered one of the tickets and turned it down flat. Also asked if I could have it just to make sure that the seat stayed empty. Was also turned down flat.

It's fucking poetry in motion. I hope the fuckers are frothing at the mouth.

Be in no doubt, the reason for this giveaway has nothing to do with empty seats. It's the non-existant library atmosphere at the place that has prompted this piece of desperation. Empty seats at televised games can largely be ignored whilst a game is underway but games played to the backdrop of players voices being able to be heard from the stands is something that cannot be brushed under the carpet. The shockingly quiet SJP atmosphere is now becoming a major talking point in the game. And unfortunately for Fat Man, giving away seats is not going to combat that because those seats will be taken up by yet more customers who contribute nothing to the atmosphere. So Mikey Boy is giving away something for which he will get no return.

NUFC have now fully embraced the Sunderland AFC Premier League mission statement. Circle the drain every season with the sole ambition to remain in the league, with a mid table finish being seen as a highly successful season. Employ journeyman managers, secure key players season after season on loan deals and now give away match tickets to make the stadium look full.

Aye, when I see people hope we plummet to get rid of Ashley, I look at these and think fuck that. 18 months ago they thought they’d hit the jackpot. Arsehole owner leaving, ‘debt written off’, etc...they’ve managed to get even worse. Mid-table in The Championship would be embarassing, mid-table in League 1 is literally something I couldn’t imagine. They were incredibly fortunate that Short wrote off their debt because if he hadn't they would have been in administration by now. The problem with this lot is their flat refusal to accept where they currently are as a club since ending up in the 3rd tier. In their arrogance since being unburdened by the debt they believed that they should piss the league and every other team in that league should feel blessed by just getting to play them. When that didnt happen they turned on a manager who is no great shakes but would probably have got them into the Championship, given time. They lack the self awareness to see that it's their impatience as a fan base that has been their undoing for years. And now they are doing the same with Parkinson.

"I'll give him 1 for changing the seats" https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/rate-donald’s-time-as-owner-so-far-out-of-10.1490404/ The love affair seems to be in trouble. This would be glorious if we weren't such a shit show ourselves.

I think Reiver is the poster "Smug In Boots" on there...and he is still saying the takeover is on.....

This is where they migrate to when RTG hits the buffers.. https://www.not606.com/threads/rtg.377863/page-40