Vinny Green Balls

in this case, you may be wrong, man. Reyna was a detriment to the attacking exuberance more often than not. At the same time, he did steady things, and kept the youth from fucking things up with their enthusiastic ignorance, but his style took a lot away as well. Reyna was already a rapidly fading force by 2002. But to me, Donovan was clearly the best player. That one player who scared the shit out of opposing teams.

no he wasn't. Reyna was a good leader, but by then was past it, and tended to really destroy their counter-attacks by slowing everything down too much.

Agoos had a mare, tbf though.

and outplaying Germany in the QF. Kahn was absolutely brilliant that day. But we were clearly robbed of a handball on the line. Penalty and red card, that game could have been different. Sanneh had a great tournament, and was brilliant in that game apart from the German goal.

and remember that 20 year old kid in Korea in 2002. Full of hunger, and absolutely unplayable in a few games. That was a hell of a World Cup for us.

He's comfortable where he is and hasn't really felt the need to prove himself in Europe I guess. He's had a remarkable international career, including great performances at 3 WCs. Is he a starter on a Champions League side? Of course not, same with Dempsey. But pick a mid-table team and he'd be just fine there. True, but he could have been so much more. He needed to play at a different level regularly to develop into what he could have been. I'm not really sure what more he could've been. I don't know if he ever had potential to be a superstar who could've played for a perennial CL contender. He might've squeezed out a bit more playing in Europe, but in terms of producing for the national team, I'm not sure what else we could want from him. Guy has 50+ goals and assists. As you said, attitude/motivation was always his biggest issue. Maybe if he had more drive... I submit that he could have done much more for the US team, even though his stats are the best in our history. He really was that good. I had season tickets to the Earthquakes for years, and remember that 18 year old just tearing shit up back in 2001. He was instrumental in turning us from utter utter shit to MLS champions. what I saw in him was like nothing I had ever seen from an American player. Lightning pace, amazing vision, and all-round footballing intelligence. Back then, he wasn't scared to take on defenders or have a go at goal any chance he got. In the subsequent years, he would always look for the pass first, and it seems that initial hunger deteriorated.

He's comfortable where he is and hasn't really felt the need to prove himself in Europe I guess. He's had a remarkable international career, including great performances at 3 WCs. Is he a starter on a Champions League side? Of course not, same with Dempsey. But pick a mid-table team and he'd be just fine there. True, but he could have been so much more. He needed to play at a different level regularly to develop into what he could have been.

Donovan is an unambitious fuck who could have been so much more, given his natural talent.

You'd think someone that supports Barca would be a better winner than this. I'm a pretty good wanker I think, I get lots of practice.

stop talking about the actual game in a thread about the actual game, man. We are talking about why the Spanish are suddenly assholes lined with the diarrhea of self entitlement.

no, Mike. Those assholes who support winning teams develop an overbearing sense of entitlement. Whereas we assholes who support shit seem to revel in out teams' failures as if it is a badge that proves that we are proper supporters.

now because of the rise of the Spanish. It used to be pretty standard for the Spanish to go out in the quarterfinal and then complain about it for a few years. Seems you assholes forgot about those years.

but most of that is done in the name of football in Brazil.

and that with a league that has been dominant in European football. We had the NASL for what, 10 years? And then the MLS since 96.

Doesn't matter how old the American FA is. Football here has always been tertiary at best to several other sports. And really what the fuck did the Spanish do apart from 1964, and then the recent years? Before 2008, Spain were dubbed the greatest underachievers in the game.

JFK?

Curious Gus

It took 19 games and a fucking heart attack, and still the shithead is back. You'd have a better chance of beating genital herpes, man.

Or he really is that daft, and would have to pay him the full compensation...as much as I find this hard to believe.

Everything about this club is ludicrous now.

What are the chances of him getting both of their names right in one go?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/18/article-2344127-1A5DBC6A000005DC-770_634x397.jpg Always good to have a calm, reasonable head around.

Isn't this the worst guy in football to bring in to end a feud? It's like bringing in Mengele to sort out an argument on ethics between two doctors.

and I for one will not accept the 'better the devil you know' line of reasoning. That is fucking cowardice.

This vitriol toward Ashley and his regime hasn't come out of a vacuum. Rewind back to the 2008 fiasco, then relegation. Then things seemed stabilized, and he jettisons Hughton and brings in utter cuntish mediocrity as his replacement. Then this. The conversations are the same, and they will continue to be. There's a pretty fucking clear cycle here. No matter what good he ever does, it has been undermined by these utterly bizarre decisions. Evidence suggests that it will continue, and we will never find real stability under the Ashley regime. He needs to go.