Robster

What frightens me the most is that everyone on this forum is near enough in agreement as to what the problems are both on an off the pitch.... how on earth to the people paid to do the job not see them as well..... do they go the other way out of spite

Ranieri was actually desperate for the job and was baffled as to why he hadn't heard back from Shepherd. Houllier talked of wanting to come back to the premiership and seemed to be genuinely interested in the job. Unfortunately Shepherd turned his nose up at them despit their premiership success, as a matter of fact a lot of fans did too. I would have gladly had either one of them back then and I still would. well there seems to be a few clubs turning their noses up at Ranieri where is he now? some small time italian club isnt it? Palma I think it is. Only took the job on a few months back so he has been out on the market for ages. Ranieri I think is the best Manager out there not wanted by any of the european big boys.

Aye. Got to be Martins.

Agree 100%. Roeder hung him out to dry against AZ. Not his fault at all.

I thought he was a typical "Badge Kisser" at Chelsea and sadly has no real desire or passion for our club.

the kid obviously has talent but if he hasnt got anyone with any sense guiding him along and bollocking him for it, then will never learn. Granted, common sense should tell him not to play aimless balls into no-one but I stall say the greater responsibility comes with the coaching staff. If you get into habits of always, or as near as damn-it, trying to play simple passes to team mates, then in the heat of a game, it comes naturally. Then comes the argument of on-pitch communication. In possession, a team mate shoudl be shouting and telling him what his pass should be and what his options are

thats where even a half decent manager / coach earns his money. It cant be difficult to teach a young professional footballer that if there is no obvious pass on then just retain possession until one is. Seems so simple doesnt it ?

If Roeder is manager for next season we are relegated..... a near racing certainty. We have somehow managed to scrape through this season. Our luck will run out next year because we simply will not be able to score enough goals. We can t just say that becasue we have Own and Martins that we are going to have success. Somehow we have to be able to create chances for them..... Ihonestly cant see who is goign to do it for us under our current style of play

but there's no way out of the situation we're in - fans can sing shepherd out and roeder out all they want and get on message boards kicking off but at the end of the day the first guy runs the club and dictates the future of the second guy.... it's no use believing that making noise will push the board members to oust shepherd 'cause that won't happen 'til they stop getting dividends, the dividends become very small, or we're headed for relegation it's no use believing that shepherd will sack roedebot 'cause he won't for the simple fact Glenn will do what he says, never criticise shepherd, and again unless we're headed for relegation there's no catalyst for change at that level accepting mediocrity doesn't come into it anymore, accepting the reality of where our club is does You're wrong there - putting pressure on the Fat Man is the best way of getting shot of Roeder - Fatty will sacrifice anyone before he falls on his own sword. that's my point, no-one will have to fall on their sword unless we are headed for relegation which we probably won't be, due to the side having a few decent players in it who show up from time to time and (presumably) decide to ignore what they've been told to do in training and go out to actually win a football match roedebot deserves a boatload of stick for this result, no mistakes about that, but he'll be here next season and so will the fans - the continued presence of the latter ensures the continued presence of the former in my opinion...talk about your irony!!! You said it right there.... the only way to make FFS so something about it is if he sees empty seats. Its a difficult balance I know because we want to get behind and support the team but at some point we have to try and make a difference and the way to do it is with our feet. Dont re-new the seasons tickets and he will sharp take notice.... or at best it might get something done because while we have this tag of "Great Supporters" and the press saying "52,000 loyal fans every week" FFS is just sitting there laughing all the way to the bank. This has nothing to do with being fairweather fans. We have to use our power to make things happen yep....not suggesting we do it mind, it'd play into the hands of the media and rival fans if we stayed away - imagine the fucken mackems if we did that? hence my bleak outlook for the near future... our best hope is he eats one pie too many or chokes on a strippers edible g-string I agree with that although there is always the smallest chance that some elements of the media might like it with all the pressure being put on fans for tickets costs etc. We may get some praise for being the first one to finally say.... enough is enough... We get enough shit from other fans anyway for never having won anything for so long... what difference does a little bit extra matter Bleak is the best way to describe it I think....

but there's no way out of the situation we're in - fans can sing shepherd out and roeder out all they want and get on message boards kicking off but at the end of the day the first guy runs the club and dictates the future of the second guy.... it's no use believing that making noise will push the board members to oust shepherd 'cause that won't happen 'til they stop getting dividends, the dividends become very small, or we're headed for relegation it's no use believing that shepherd will sack roedebot 'cause he won't for the simple fact Glenn will do what he says, never criticise shepherd, and again unless we're headed for relegation there's no catalyst for change at that level accepting mediocrity doesn't come into it anymore, accepting the reality of where our club is does You're wrong there - putting pressure on the Fat Man is the best way of getting shot of Roeder - Fatty will sacrifice anyone before he falls on his own sword. that's my point, no-one will have to fall on their sword unless we are headed for relegation which we probably won't be, due to the side having a few decent players in it who show up from time to time and (presumably) decide to ignore what they've been told to do in training and go out to actually win a football match roedebot deserves a boatload of stick for this result, no mistakes about that, but he'll be here next season and so will the fans - the continued presence of the latter ensures the continued presence of the former in my opinion...talk about your irony!!! You said it right there.... the only way to make FFS so something about it is if he sees empty seats. Its a difficult balance I know because we want to get behind and support the team but at some point we have to try and make a difference and the way to do it is with our feet. Dont re-new the seasons tickets and he will sharp take notice.... or at best it might get something done because while we have this tag of "Great Supporters" and the press saying "52,000 loyal fans every week" FFS is just sitting there laughing all the way to the bank. This has nothing to do with being fairweather fans. We have to use our power to make things happen