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I am completely flummoxed about next season. Logic dictates that what you just said is how it will pan out, but the eternal optimist inside says, "hey, maybe he will learn some lessons from last season and actually get the players together again!" I guess denial is a huge part of football. You just need to read the link I posted a few pages back, the guys so 1 dimensional he makes paper jealous. He has always been true to type and still plays the same game he played 7 years ago. If we're stuck with him, we're stuck with him, I won't back him but the players, as always get my full support. MA is just delaying the inevitable, he'll be gone by 2014.

I think my last strands of hope will die on Monday if/when he's still here

Every cloud..

Agree. In fact he cannot say that any player is staying. No manager can. I watched Laudrup say exactly that in a tv interview tonight. What would people expect David Moyes to say if asked whether all the star players will still be at at ManU next season? Something more diplomatic or deflecting maybe? No one can be sure but in the image of improvement you can insist you have no intention of losing your best players when you've preachy claimed the squad was too small to deal with the season just past and if anything you are hoping to strengthen it to improve on a disappointing season maybe? Something like he did days before Ashley sold Carroll? There's a difference between saying you haven't got any intentions on letting players go and telling people that they definitely aren't going. I know what he's saying and how he means it but it's the way he blurts these things out that is astoundingly amateur. His last few interviews have been ridiculous.

Agree. In fact he cannot say that any player is staying. No manager can. I watched Laudrup say exactly that in a tv interview tonight. What would people expect David Moyes to say if asked whether all the star players will still be at at ManU next season? Something more diplomatic or deflecting maybe? No one can be sure but in the image of improvement you can insist you have no intention of losing your best players when you've recently claimed the squad was too small to deal with the season just past and if anything you are hoping to strengthen it to improve on a disappointing season maybe?

Nah man, sounds perfectly plausible.. Thanks for pissing on my bonfire

You're such a tease HF

Is it too much to hope that we go out and buy some quality technical continental players instead of "experienced" cloggers and he quits in protest before a ball's kicked next season?

Confident or not, just keep your trap shut Pardew, it's the usual market stall patter we hear every window.

Don't even know what to say about that, shocking display of ambition there, makes the club so attractive. Maybe Ashley will sell up and we can get rid of the lot of em?

Shame if we can't convince him to stay as a squad member, he has been solid this season when called upon, just isn't up to being a regular starter. He'd make a good acquisition to most sides in the premiership.

Amazingly accurate and informative

So true, it's like that 5th place has become a curse for us. Who would have given that 5th place up in hindsight to remove any credibility of keeping him? Most I bet!

Worth noting that percentage has dropped from 71% for 11/12 season, quite a loss in just one season??

Anyone thinking he may learn from his mistakes... Not a chance, he was making the same ones 7 years ago.

Worth a read http://www.nufcblog.org/2013/05/does-this-sound-familiar-west-ham-charlton-and-southampton-fans-on-pardew/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=does-this-sound-familiar-west-ham-charlton-and-southampton-fans-on-pardew#.UZY2Kr-9Kc0

We're shit and he's shit, people are bound to gravitate towards that which proves what we all know. All stats have their limitations and flaws, but I'll hold my hand up, I'm more receptive to your bs when it's proving what I know, we're shit!

Wow, this thread has been a hive of activity, discussing the ins and outs of performances, statistics, reasons for our demise, terrible tactics, etc... Ian says we're shit, we all agree and silence ensues!

We've been shit

We're 12-8 down on goals in the last 10 minutes this season. But how many in average per game, our last minute goals are 1 a game I would expect, a la Cisse whereas I would expect a few of ours might be attributed to 2 or 3 as we trail off and get mauled. A lot of them took points off us. 86th minute at the mackems. 81st and 85th minutes at Stoke. 90th minute at Man U 85th minute at Swansea 90th minute at Wigan 8th place if the table didn't "gloss over" those HF = slayer of urban myths He doesn't take any nonsense. To be fair, we're losing in almost EVERY 10 minute period of the game. The only time we come out on top is just before half time.... http://www.soccerstats.com/timing.asp?league=england We've been s****, that's something everyone can agree on!

We're 12-8 down on goals in the last 10 minutes this season. But how many in average per game, our last minute goals are 1 a game I would expect, a la Cisse whereas I would expect a few of ours might be attributed to 2 or 3 as we trail off and get mauled. A lot of them took points off us. 86th minute at the mackems. 81st and 85th minutes at Stoke. 90th minute at Man U 85th minute at Swansea 90th minute at Wigan 8th place if the table didn't "gloss over" those Performances not results being glossed over.

We're 12-8 down on goals in the last 10 minutes this season. But how many in average per game, our last minute goals are 1 a game I would expect, a la Cisse whereas I would expect a few of ours might be attributed to 2 or 3 as we trail off and get mauled.

I'm not saying we're good, but on the other hand you could argue that the manner of the Sunderland and Liverpool defeats made everything seem much worse than it was form-wise. Anyway, thank f*** it's over now! I was actually agreeing with you Ian, maybe I wasn't clear Your right, it's the performances that have made it feel so bad, it's the scrappy wins that make it look better than it is. You're also right in saying those two performances have brought extra doom and gloom on us!

It's bizarre reading that and comparing it to the feeling that we were dropping like a stone. The table glosses over the performances and the last gasp winners at home have propelled us up there. Plus the last two home games have really brought home how bad we are and it's easy to forget those scrappy points when we're in free fall performance-wise.

Considering how much we work on "shape" thats awful from us The only thing I can take from the Arsenal game is us being ultra defensive and doubling up on their players. Some useful info there Happy Face.