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Genuine question - do people think our problems would be solved by a new manager or do people think a few new faces would do similar? A gross oversimplification of the situation, perhaps, but was just wondering what a few on here thought.

Fucking embarrassing. Lost for words tbh.

Yep. It won't help our cause that the upcoming fixtures really are 'must win' games - on the showing last night it certainly didn't look as though the team could handle such pressure. I just don't think we've got a squad that could handle a relegation battle. Where we differ from the likes of Southampton and Reading, et al, is that from the outset their players knew it would be a tough ask to stay in the league. They've been preparing mentally for this since August. We, on other hand, were never expected to be in this position. I hope I'm proved wrong, like, but I'm very worried about how our lot are going to handle the situation.

Same here. The group I was sitting with took the view that Ashley had hung him out to dry over the summer and there was little Pardew could do to turn things around with the players at his disposal. With respect, were any of them watching us at the beginning of the season? We've been shit for the entire thing so far, that falls at the managers feet imo. I agree completely. Was just surprised to hear that folk still thought Pardew was immune from criticism.

If we 'expect' to lose away games to clubs like Norwich it shows just how poorly the club is being run, and also how well the idiots running it have managed to brainwash the fans...... Well considering we got beat there last season 4-2, and thats when we were actually playing well. They've improved their team since last year, we're on a slump - lost 9 in 11. Hardly's brainwashed... Last year's result is irrelevant tbh. We had Danny fucking Simpson playing centre back.

Thing is though, and I wouldn't normally place too much emphasis on this, but who in our squad at the mo is braced for a relegation scrap? From what I saw tonight, their heads have gone down and I wouldn't say that we've any true leaders to pull us up by the scruff of the neck if needs be. Normally that would be the responsibility of the captain, but Colo's looked very out of sorts recently. Who then? Cabaye? Saylor? The only thing that'll turn it around is the confidence that come from playing free flowing, attacking football, a style which to all intents and purposes best suits our squad. I'm not convinced Pardew is capable of getting us playing like that in the current circumstances. The bloke looks shit scared when we go behind AND when we're in front to actually chase the game.

I'm just praying that he's shitting himself, just a little bit, at our current predicament. Perhaps I'm giving the man too much credit there, however.

Defo saw where merlin was coming from, but I'd agree with this entirely.

Same here. The group I was sitting with took the view that Ashley had hung him out to dry over the summer and there was little Pardew could do to turn things around with the players at his disposal. The thing is, even if we do manage to bring in a striker, a CB, Debuchy and, by some miracle a CM I'd still not be confident that Pardew would get us the results we need to avoid a relegation scrap.

Gates won't go down enough to convince him to sell, he knows as much as we do that NUFC fans will continue to support the side whatever position we're in. We're stuck with him, sadly. As johnnypd mentioned above, he's not proactive in the sense that he'll act if we look to be in the shit - he's a hands-off opportunist. As you say, the only thing we can hope for is that his eye will be on the loss of PL TV revenue if we do go down and that he'll subsequently invest in the team.

No way back imo. He's bereft of ideas and we've become utterly predictable. 27 months since we came from behind to win a game, bottom of the form table, consistent tactical ineptitude? He's lost me, I'm afraid, and on some of the showings from some of our lot recently he's lost them, too.

Just hoping for a respectable performance tbh. Win, lose or draw. Sad it's come to this, but its a distraction we don't need.

Aye. It's this that has pissed me off most tonight. Cult hero/mackem slayer jokes aside, he's never been good enough

It's about the same. This game was basically the 0-0 against Pompey where they played keep ball for the last 10 minutes and our players didn't give a shit. Dont't know about anyone else, but I feel this team has far more to give than the last bunch. They just look bereft of confidence and ideas which is not surprising given the set up this evening. Do I trust Ashley to make the right decisions to reduce the likelihood of us going down? No way. But unless he acts soon that'll be where we're going. I'm just hoping beyond hope that the lure of the PL TV cash next year will force him to take action. Whether that'll be in investment in the team or a new manager I don't know, but something needs to give.

This is the best side on paper that we've had in years, and this twat is pissing it down the drain.

Aye. And meanwhile those running the club simply don't appear as though they're giving a shit. Just sauntering on to the next game and the next piss poor show. When that's over, on to the next. There's no plan whatsoever atm, just apparent blind faith that we'll be ok. Seriously concerning.

This is the crux for me. No other owner of a side that finished fifth last year would tolerate results of this nature. Pull the fucking trigger and start showing some ambition ffs. So fucking irritated.

Lose against Brighton and he's got to go. Beyond a joke now.b

Absolutely shocking. Give him the fucking sack if we want to stay in this league. Gutless performance, shite tactics and no belief. Fuck right off.

With this set of players its disgusting that we're so shit. We need new faces and a new manager.

How long before we start to panic?

Get rid of this fool. Before its too late.

Good player though he is, that Fellaini isn't half a twat.

Marvellous signing. See ya later Danny.