Thomson Mouse

Do you think many decent mangers would have come and accepted Dennis Wise telling them which players they are getting? No different to last January then.

I suppose it depends on whether you want to stand around drinking with someone who would jump around manically waving their arms in the air shouting "I told you so" at the top of their voice, while also telling anyone within earshot that you really do believe him but won't admit it. No thanks, I'd rather stick blunt pencils in my eyes. your making things up again thats a bad habit, it affects your ability to make sound judgements. I know for a fact you won't see the irony in that statement. As I've said, it's not your viewpoint, it's the way you put it across. Maybe it says a bit about CG as well.

I suppose it depends on whether you want to stand around drinking with someone who would jump around manically waving their arms in the air shouting "I told you so" at the top of their voice, while also telling anyone within earshot that you really do believe him but won't admit it. No thanks, I'd rather stick blunt pencils in my eyes.

This.

I will happily take down any of the figures I have quoted if you can show me where they are wrong. If any of those numbers are wrong then Shepherd will not be allowed to be a company director as he signed the accounts and gave them to Companies House. They don't like being lied to. Over to you, find me one, and I'll happily apologise, otherwsie I'll assume that really you accept them, and were just making your comment for a laugh. I was being jovial tbf but i will make some serious points for you. The rest of the premiership is run the same way and the data in 2007 showed most other clubs were making bigger losses than us (the data was posted on this forum and debated at length). You always made it sound like we were the only club with financial issues, whereas in fact we were / are just typical. Debt is not a big issue when you have a certain income stream. If you sell shirts for a living, you cant hold that much debt as shirts can go out of fashion. Football clubs are for life not just for christmas. Hence Arsenal's debt is astronomical but manageable etc etc etc Top 4 blah blah blah. More importantly, where have you been for the last 2 weeks? Surely your time had come when the fans started the Ashley out stuff, surely you should have been supporting him as he saved the club from extinction? You've come back when Shepherd was mentioned but not when the man who saved the club from Shepherd needed your support. Strange that. What does that hve to do with the point that is being debated? It seems to be up there on the NE5 scale of diversionary tactics when faced with facts.

What did I wish for? wish I'd put a bet on that you'd say that mackems.gif You now have a club without a fat b****** in charge that doesn't embarrass you. A few mediocre teams might embarrass you instead though. Just like your good old days. As much as I disagree with you on this point, why do you have to come across as such an abrasive, arrogant tosser when you reply? Try to answer that question only. you mean that I'm right and you can't see it or bring yourself to admit it ? I think those who can't see the blatantly obvious, and ignore factual information that doesn't suit their "opinion", are tossers. Are you seriously trying to tell me that the club hasn't embarrassed you in the last 2 weeks ? It's embarrassed me, more than for many years. I wouldn't really be arsed, but the sad thing is, the only way they are going on the field is headlong into a relegation fight that may be lost unless the soopa new owner abandons his so called "plan" or buggers off and sells to someone who knows something about football. And that DOES bother me. No, I mean that you come across as an over excited, abrasive, arrogant, tosspot when you've replied to the posts on this thread. After reading it, you have pissed me off far more with your attitude than your actual viewpoint. you're new to here, or appear to be. These sort of "debates" with macbeth are old hat, they've been done before. I'm not interested. He refused to answer a point blank question when asked would he prefer a good balance sheet to being relegated. This is going back to when we bought Micheal Owen, because we were going into the season with only an ex world class striker and a Spanish player nobody knew anything about. Pity Ashley didn't speculate too in the window just ended, we may well pay the price. You can't deny that supporters are unhappy ? What does that do for the balance sheets ? What will happen if we are relegated ? I'm asking you. I'm not arsed with macbeth or one or two others, because we have been there before. I find it amazing that after the events of the last few weeks, and losing the manager pretty much all of us wanted to keep and have lost for all of the reasons I'm stating ie lack of support and backing, that you can defend Ashleys actions or those who appear to still think he was doing it right. Well, I still have a new sheen, but a few scuff marks are starting to appear. You don't have to go into history, I've read them all before. From what I've seen he's not the only one that does that.

What did I wish for? wish I'd put a bet on that you'd say that mackems.gif You now have a club without a fat b****** in charge that doesn't embarrass you. A few mediocre teams might embarrass you instead though. Just like your good old days. As much as I disagree with you on this point, why do you have to come across as such an abrasive, arrogant tosser when you reply? Try to answer that question only. you mean that I'm right and you can't see it or bring yourself to admit it ? I think those who can't see the blatantly obvious, and ignore factual information that doesn't suit their "opinion", are tossers. Are you seriously trying to tell me that the club hasn't embarrassed you in the last 2 weeks ? It's embarrassed me, more than for many years. I wouldn't really be arsed, but the sad thing is, the only way they are going on the field is headlong into a relegation fight that may be lost unless the soopa new owner abandons his so called "plan" or buggers off and sells to someone who knows something about football. And that DOES bother me. No, I mean that you come across as an over excited, abrasive, arrogant, tosspot when you've replied to the posts on this thread. After reading it, you have pissed me off far more with your attitude than your actual viewpoint.

What did I wish for? wish I'd put a bet on that you'd say that mackems.gif You now have a club without a fat b****** in charge that doesn't embarrass you. A few mediocre teams might embarrass you instead though. Just like your good old days. As much as I disagree with you on this point, why do you have to come across as such an abrasive, arrogant tosser when you reply? Try to answer that question only.

Most of that previous article in The Times is a classic case of them building us up (over the last 15 years), then enjoying knocking us down now. They do it every time. Reminds me of the line in The Dark Knight You either die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain. Or something like that.

I would put my house on it that 90% of the dimwits that are condoning Guthrie's actions are the same ones who will be giving sermons about Mike Ashley being a liar/ betraying Keegan etc. Peobably, purely because a hign percentage of people were taking liar etc stance. It's called statistics. On the Guthrie debate, it is possible to have a slight fracture and not to feel it. If it's very small they may not even put much support on it and tell him to avoid physical activity for a bit. It's already been stated that Guthrie should be punished, bearing in mind it does seem out of character it shouldn't be that harsh. Maybe Fagan could learn something from this as well: if you're going to wind someone up and play the part of the prick he so nicely managed to on Saturday, expect this to happen as you'll always pick on the wrong person at some point. Speak of the devil My typing is getting worse.

I would put my house on it that 90% of the dimwits that are condoning Guthrie's actions are the same ones who will be giving sermons about Mike Ashley being a liar/ betraying Keegan etc. Peobably, purely because a hign percentage of people were taking liar etc stance. It's called statistics. On the Guthrie debate, it is possible to have a slight fracture and not to feel it. If it's very small they may not even put much support on it and tell him to avoid physical activity for a bit. It's already been stated that Guthrie should be punished, bearing in mind it does seem out of character it shouldn't be that harsh. Maybe Fagan could learn something from this as well: if you're going to wind someone up and play the part of the prick he so nicely managed to on Saturday, expect this to happen as you'll always pick on the wrong person at some point.

Can none of these fuckers speak? Was Chris Mort the only one? It's like watching kids playing with the club website.

:lol: i think i've just cracked 4 ribs and done my hernia. :lol: should have used crypt instead of coffin. mackems.gif Will anyone answer him or do we let him argue with himself?

Let's see now. "Mongs"... Given that you use vocab like this then I despair with this club as you idiots use this vocabulary and you feel it is appropriate and is not a reason as to why the world ridicules the club. Grow up you f***ing idiots... Yes! Exactly. Anyone who wants Shepherd back, even in a figurehead capacity, wants to remember who royally shafted us and made us a total laughing stock in the first place. want is too strong a term but if he came back with say...........£700million worth of backing ? If you had £700 million would ask Shepherd to do that? i would actually.just to take the piss. Out of who? everyone that would cry like 4year olds if shepherd came back Would you not be bothered? honestly depends on what program was put forward He can't speak. He can't have money near him. His son wouldn't be near the club. He couldn't make his own signings. He wouldn't be responsible for the club. Would there be any point in paying him? never mentioned paying him I'm sure he'd do it for nowt

Not where I was stood. Fact! Didn't look like that to me.

You know what you've done, don't you? He'll be here any minute.

Let's see now. "Mongs"... Given that you use vocab like this then I despair with this club as you idiots use this vocabulary and you feel it is appropriate and is not a reason as to why the world ridicules the club. Grow up you f***ing idiots... Yes! Exactly. Anyone who wants Shepherd back, even in a figurehead capacity, wants to remember who royally shafted us and made us a total laughing stock in the first place. want is too strong a term but if he came back with say...........£700million worth of backing ? If you had £700 million would ask Shepherd to do that? i would actually.just to take the piss. Out of who? everyone that would cry like 4year olds if shepherd came back Would you not be bothered? honestly depends on what program was put forward He can't speak. He can't have money near him. His son wouldn't be near the club. He couldn't make his own signings. He wouldn't be responsible for the club. Would there be any point in paying him?

"Mongs"... Given that you use vocab like this then I despair with this club as you idiots use this vocabulary and you feel it is appropriate and is not a reason as to why the world ridicules the club. Grow up you f***ing idiots... Yes! Exactly. Anyone who wants Shepherd back, even in a figurehead capacity, wants to remember who royally shafted us and made us a total laughing stock in the first place. want is too strong a term but if he came back with say...........£700million worth of backing ? If you had £700 million would ask Shepherd to do that? i would actually.just to take the piss. Out of who? everyone that would cry like 4year olds if shepherd came back Would you not be bothered?

When fully fit I reckon he does. He is just too stupid and looks so slow. He's a bit like 'Tino used to be, where he doesn't look like he's running fast but he is really. Like I mentioned as well, I don't think he is very intelligent a sa footbalelr, so finds himself in the wrogn positions at the wrong times. He'd do okay in the Championship but not for us. I just think we should all be aiming to stick together at the minute and the players we do have in our squad should be backed, or if not backed people should at least not boo them. Funniest thing I've read on here. Ever. Shola run fast

"Mongs"... Given that you use vocab like this then I despair with this club as you idiots use this vocabulary and you feel it is appropriate and is not a reason as to why the world ridicules the club. Grow up you f***ing idiots... Yes! Exactly. Anyone who wants Shepherd back, even in a figurehead capacity, wants to remember who royally shafted us and made us a total laughing stock in the first place. want is too strong a term but if he came back with say...........£700million worth of backing ? If you had £700 million would ask Shepherd to do that? i would actually.just to take the piss. Out of who?

"Mongs"... Given that you use vocab like this then I despair with this club as you idiots use this vocabulary and you feel it is appropriate and is not a reason as to why the world ridicules the club. Grow up you f***ing idiots... Yes! Exactly. Anyone who wants Shepherd back, even in a figurehead capacity, wants to remember who royally shafted us and made us a total laughing stock in the first place. want is too strong a term but if he came back with say...........£700million worth of backing ? If you had £700 million would ask Shepherd to do that?

Not according to this, which is apparently updated by club physios. http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php

"Mongs"... Given that you use vocab like this then I despair with this club as you idiots use this vocabulary and you feel it is appropriate and is not a reason as to why the world ridicules the club. Grow up you f***ing idiots... Yes! Exactly. Anyone who wants Shepherd back, even in a figurehead capacity, wants to remember who royally shafted us and made us a total laughing stock in the first place.

Probably the best post I've read on this forum in my entire time here. Though before you get a big head, bear in mind the standard of the competition. He may he some decent points, but he ends up looking like a complete f***ing cock with his snobbish use of 'mongs'. Could you also tell me what being unemployed has to do with it? Do you not realise the history of the area? Are all the decent, hard working people made unemployed going to be tarred with the same brush? Hopefully it'll never happen to you. Prick. On another point, maybe it's time for the media to stop believing what the media write. Oh my Lord. Okay, since this board is uber PC now, along with going on record denying that I look down upon the good men and women who serve their national forces, I now append to that same record that I do not think lowly about the 'people of the area.' It made me feel better to describe the pitchfork brigade thus just as you feel better by calling me a prick. I, Sir, have been unemployed before. If anything, I have more in common with these common people of whom you speak than with almost anyone on this board. In the heat of the moment though, and when you see them on telly, you can't help but vomit such a vitriol at them. Sorry, but after what you postwed, I find that very difficult to believe.