themanupstairs

I believe that's a fantastic plan of action that will curb the club's spending and give's us potential for a solid future.

 

What I want to know is how all of his requirements are not met with Chris Hughton, for example.

 

"1.)The manager will not be handed a treasure trove of cash."

Chris Hughton had a total spend of at best £10 million in his time with Newcastle, that included his 12 months in the Championship. With this he bought Danny Simpson, James Perch, Wayne Routledge, Mike Wiliamson, Hatem Ben Arfa, Cheike Tiote, Dan Gosling, and Peter Lovenkrands. Of those players two at this minute are deemed not good enough and suggested to be sold. That is 5 players for an average of £2m per player in the squad. Include the fact he has brought on players like Andy Carroll, Nile Ranger, Tim Krul, Tamas Kadar and to a lesser extent Haris Vuckic, Shane Ferguson, and Ole Soderberg all players that cost the club under £1 million.

 

2.)“He will be handsomely rewarded if he brings success to Newcastle United and will not be rewarded if he fails."

It was often claimed Hughton's wage was the lowest in the league for a Manager, even lower than Iain Holloway at Blackpool. He worked with a skeleton staff and even recently waited weeks for a replacement assistant. If the manager is to be rewarded handsomely, where was the former man's reward for successfully guiding Newcastle to promotion? As Champions might I add with a game to spare and with plus one hundred points. I would imagine he was set a similar target of maintaing the club's status in the Premier League this season. As it stands the club sit in 11th position having played 4 of the tougher sides in the league, 3 away 1 at home picking up 4 points in the process, this arguably should be 7 after the debacle that was Man City away.

 

3.)“The new manager will be expected to buy into the new vision. You get paid by results, developing the club and moving it forward.

Ok, arguably my favourite.

 

Morale was low prior to last season, it was raised by promotion but come the summer the fantastic claim of 'No capital outlay' had very much dented the spirits of many who had hoped for even some spending in order to secure much needed reinforcements. Now if you want to ignore the fantastic results at West Ham, Arsenal, and Chelsea fine but take Sunderland for a prime example of how good Chris Hughton was.

 

I am in no way clinging to the idea that it's the best result because it's Sunderland, it is but that's not my point. The subsequent 5-1 hammering of Sunderland spawned a host of merchandise in the club shop, t-shirts, mugs, DVD's but to name a few. A lot of fans chose to purchase these to remember what is considered our best victory in years, a landmark one when you consider it's the biggest win since the 6-1 of 1955 .

 

In simple terms, he made the club money. Even if he had no say in the signings like Ben Arfa who went on to sell a number of shirts, he made the club money in merchandising. No one with more experience could have done any better than take a side that when he inherited was low on confidence and transform them into Champions and subsequent mid table Premier League players.

 

In essence he's a giant hypocrite who walked over the nice guy.

 

 

Totally agree here!! If this really is the plan, then Hughton was the perfect fit!! i'm all FOR any attempts to change the way the modern game is run. I'm all FOR changing the trajectory of where football is headed to, and injecting it with a fat dose of common sense and bringing it back down to earth. But the hypocrisy in this case is so blatant, assuming it's all true, that it boggles the mind trying to think where and when and WHO is going to lap this plan up and genuinely lead us in the right direction.

So this incompetent runt is still in the running? fuck me what a shambles. Already heard from so many mates that if we go backwards with this next appointment, that will be it for them until MA is gone. I think this time it will be serious and we will see attendances drop drastically.

I'd rather Brown than Pardew.

both can fuck off

For the record, I wouldn't mind Martinez

And we all know where Jol would be staying if he was over here...

Nolan's house?

Oh Hughton's you mean?

HA HA HA HA its gonner be Parspew.  HA HA

 

The bloke will be judged instantly by every newcaslte fan from the first minute.  He wont last.

 

Why won't he last? Mike Ashley quite clearly does not give a f*** what we think or what we do. He doesn't care if we attend games or not, he doesn't care if we protest and he certainly won't give a s*** if we get on the back of Alan Pardew.

 

This is his club remember, not ours

No it isn't his to destroy. If this club will be destroyed, we the fans will do it before we allow the cunt to bring it down. Mark my words, if Ashley appoints Pardew, it will be the end of him. He will be forced to sell as I don't see the fans shutting up about this one.

As far as I am concerned, Alan Pardew is NOT welcome at this club in any capacity. He will NOT have any backing from me personally, and I will have a forum agenda against him even if he turns out to be decent.

For me this is far far worse than the KK debacle. Atrocious decision by the powers that be. Thank you Chris Hughton for the dignity and humility and more importantly, for giving us something to shout about, both last season and this. You're a star.

It was the sort of showing that can pretty much finish someone at a particular club.

 

eg- Cacapa v Portsmouth

This I agree with tbh. Shame as he showed some real potential in the past. It's the mental side of the game that fails him imo and nothing else.

Terrible performance from a player who doesn't look like he can perform at this level as a squad member. On current form he is not good enough to start ahead of Barton and Tiote, and therefore should be moved on.

HOWEVER......some of you lot on here should get a fucking life. Some of the comments being made are downright disgusting. Only dickheads would wish injury on anyone, especially one of our own players.

He needs to realise he could be a real threat in this league.

He needs to play more often in order to do so. But yes, I agree totally

Would probably cause problems where a player is sent off for diving when there's contact. If they were serious about banning diving they could start handing out excessive retrospective bans but it would never happen, its too far ingrained within the culture of the game.

It's true, but if it's one thing that absolutely boils my piss personally in football, it's all the diving about. An absolutely disgusting habit which I f***ing hate to see in our own players. Obviously I'm realistic enough to understand how ubiquitous it is, and if a decision were to go for us due to one of ours diving, I'd be happy to take it. Just wish it weren't this bad.

It's a great idea in theory, but impossible to carry out in practice.

 

A referee is incapable of deciding whether or not to book a player for diving atm, to introduce a sending off for trying to get a sending off would just make things worse.

 

That could be alright I suppose for blatant cases such as today's where the ref and linesmen clearly weren't fooled by that idiotic dive. I think it can be a subjective decision made by the ref the same as decisions about intent, time-wasting and deliberate handball, etc...

 

It's one thing for the game to change through evolution and it's another when it can change due to protection given to cheating (or rather, lack of persecution thereof)

 

If Drogba's dive today was so obvious, why wasn't he booked? The referee is too s*** scared to make such a decision.

I reckon Mariner thought about it then decided to let the game flow with it being so early in the game. Whatever it was, it was the wrong decision to let it go, simply because of how obvious it was!

On the subject of this though, I'm getting pissed off at 'professional fouls' to stop players who are going through on goal (like Jonas/Ramires in the first half).

 

It's practically f***ing encouraged by the press/commentators as 'taking one for the team' - yellow isn't enough punishment. It should be treated like denying a goalscoring opportunity.

"Taking one for the team" would be alright imo as long as neither player gets hurt. Since that can't be guaranteed obviously, it's again another form of protected cheating, and could be considered unsportsmanlike. It is still a physical sport, but if it got any more physical might as well to change it's name to rugby or something.

It's a great idea in theory, but impossible to carry out in practice.

 

A referee is incapable of deciding whether or not to book a player for diving atm, to introduce a sending off for trying to get a sending off would just make things worse.

That could be alright I suppose for blatant cases such as today's where the ref and linesmen clearly weren't fooled by that idiotic dive. I think it can be a subjective decision made by the ref the same as decisions about intent, time-wasting and deliberate handball, etc...

It's one thing for the game to change through evolution and it's another when it can change due to protection given to cheating (or rather, lack of persecution thereof)

 

Jara should be banned too.

is a cunt of the absolute highest order. 

I really wish we didnt have to accomodate for Nolan every week, it makes for undeserved bird droppings on the bench.

What did Guthrie and Shola do to get 4's? They were both 2 at the most.

 

Guthrie was pretty decent. Played some nice one-touch football in the first half.

and made one or two telling tackles

how come I can hear the Chelsea fans far more than I can hear ours?

in all honesty, i'm sick and tired of seeing that big nose twat and hearing the rubbish he comes out with. wouldn't be too upset if he left the league for good.

Banning JH for that is a disgrace. I've read a lot worse said in the past. Reading some of the parting shots from Admin, especially to the permanently banned makes for hilarious reading.

Screw Coloccini. Reminds me of how bad of a player he is. Championship standard at best. Campbell should replace him and we should probably get a new defender in January so that we can offload Coloccini.

We must go for Kranjcar this winter. We can't afford to miss out on a deal like that if a player of his quality is available.

whoomp there it is 

This is probably a daft question given everyone's opinion of the game, but did we attempt to play any passing/possession football at any time?

Yes. Except when the ball made its way back to defence, Simpson or Willo duly initiated hoof ball

Its a fkn joob job he is a Geordie & Toon fan will make it a bit harder for one of the bigger clubs to take him away, nailed on they will try and the London rags will print it would be best for him to leave.

the onslaught isn't far off now.