themanupstairs

If Taylor moves to a top 6 club and doesn't get sold within 2 years for being completely s***, i'll delete my account. CB requires more intelligence than any other position and he's about as sharp as a sponge. He'll never amount to anything away from NUFC.

 

quoted. just in case.

Whos is the Italian Newcastle? Fiorentina?

You don't know how many "Are you a gloryhunter?" PMs I have had to answer 

 

Regulars know me well and I love this place, mind.

 

Aye, well that's mental tbh and I don't really get it.  You've made your situation abundantly clear really - you're a Spanish lad who supports Barcelona.  How f***ing curious.  Honestly, what a c*** you are man.   Don't let Muzzy Izzet freak you out - I'm not being soft but you're an asset to the forum, simple as.

That all depends on how much money we've got. Kevin Doyle is one option, Robert Aquafresca is another. Mbokani and Crouch would also do well but aren't realistic.

 

 

f*** are you laughing at?

I thought I was quoting a joke

That all depends on how much money we've got. Kevin Doyle is one option, Robert Aquafresca is another. Mbokani and Crouch would also do well but aren't realistic.

Thing is, the longer we stay undefeated at home, the bigger the pressure mounts on the next game. So IF I had to choose one of the two, I'd go for losing the Ipswich game (just to get it out the way) and winning the league.

Need I really say that I'd prefer winning both achievements though?

fuxatt?

Bordeaux 1-0 up

Lap of honour parading the trophy should we win it would suffice.

Leave the bus for something more special man!

Why can't I change my vote here btw? Have voted for Harper but now I think that's a rubbish vote. 

you deserve to get stuck with the shame

Look we are all feeling a tad sentimental and there is no doubt that Hughton has done well in CCC. I would say though that our performance in this league has also been aided greatly by having the best squad/first XI in the league (how many other teams can boast having players going to the World Cup?), so it's not like we've done well purely out of Hughton's tactical brilliance. What he has undoubtedly brought to the team is stability, a sense of calmness and team unity.

 

Having said all that, to pretend that he has not done poorly as caretaker when we were in the Premier League would be lying to ourselves. How many times have we complained that he kept on playing the wrong players, how many times have we noted that he makes his substitutions way too late to change games? When we came from behind, is it because Hughton changed things around or because the players just pushed harder?

 

I like the man a lot, but I have my doubts on whether he is good enough for the Premier League, I would not mind getting him a credible assistant or if push comes to shove, then giving him a different role (as coach maybe), but only if we get a good manager lined up. At the end of the day, what matters is NUFC not any particular individual. Mark my words, if we screw up the first 10 games, then the same people loving Hughton now will get on his back pronto and things will get ugly. 

 

So all of his success this season is totally qualified yet last season's caretaker record isn't in any way misleading despite the fact the club was being absolutely ripped apart from every angle? We could have got Capello in as caretaker last season and he would have likely struggled such was the state of the club.

 

As for complaining re the players selected, after ONE transfer window he has remedied that almost completely with most match day threads showing people are pretty content with the line up. With regards substitutes, we moan about this all the time, yet time and again the player we're all saying should be taken off scores / gets an assist. See Nolan last night as a nice recent example. Also, see Pancrate at half time in the game before at Peterborough. A change was needed and Hughton made it.

 

I genuinely cannot believe we are having this debate. Promotion sealed with 6 games to go and yet still people aren't happy. I was one of the nay sayers right up until the Christmas / New Year period but he has won me over. He has signed the right players, got the right results and instilled the right attitude. f*** knows what more you expect. But you're right, lets get rid now, have our reputations as laughing stocks restored and continue with our policy of screwing up any stability the club has had to chase a possible short term solution that likely won't even work. Brilliant.

top top post.

And no AlPal, I won't be getting on his back when things start going pear shaped. I'll leave that bollocks to the rats and booers.

NEWCASTLE UNITED cult hero Fabricio Coloccini has insisted that winning back top-flight status with the Magpies means more to him than going to the World Cup finals.

 

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The Argentine international put in another rock-steady performance last night against Sheffield United as he coped with the physical front two of Darius Henderson and Richard Cresswell in a no-holds-barred Championship battle.

 

Coloccini knows that it is touch-and-go whether he makes Diego Maradona’s final squad for the World Cup finals in South Africa.

 

But he says that getting back to the Premier League was a BIGGER achievement than success at international level.

 

He told the Chronicle: “This season we have had to battle and scrap for every point – it has been difficult but at last we have achieved our objective.

 

“For me as a footballer, playing in the Premier League is where I want to be and why I signed for this great club.

 

“To be playing in the best league in the world means so much.

 

“Yes, I want to go to the World Cup finals with my country, but I know that if I want to be selected in the future, playing at the top level is where I need to be.

 

“This club belongs in the top half of the Premier League and that’s where we aim to go now.”

 

Coloccini, who signed for United for £10m from Deportivo la Coruna in 2008, had his name chanted for long spells last night, with the South American one of the many stars of the promotion campaign.

 

He said: “We wanted to win even though we knew it was already confirmed that we were promoted.

 

“The fans were brilliant and we couldn’t go out there and let them down – we had to win the game against Sheffield as well.

 

“They want us to be in the Premier League next season. Now we have delivered that.”

 

And when reflecting on the supporters who have fallen in love with the curly- haired Argentine this season, Colo said: “They are possibly the best fans in the world and I have a lot of affection for them.

 

“To hear them sing my name is amazing.

 

“It just makes you want to win every game for them, every tackle and get every pass right.

 

“My aim is to stay at the club and help us climb up the Premier League next season, even if there are a going to be some tough battles ahead.”

  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

Why aren't we even considering the idea of giving Hughton solid time to have a crack at the job? David Moyes went to Everton with nothing but CCC experience and potential. He's been given time to build a squad, and they have reaped the rewards with stability and are a force in the premiership to be reckoned with. Why on Earth can't we even dicuss that? So we lose 4 out of our first 7 next season. So fuck?? Haven't we learned anything??

Can't see jol doing that. Always liked him.we need someone of his experience at the club next year though to assist hughton.

 

I disagree. The management structure at the club right now needs exactly one thing: no change.

 

If Hughton fails then sack him then and get someone who'll do better. No need to exhume an idea that's already failed spectacularly in the mean time.

Absolutely spot on. The air up there doing wonders for your thought process oldtype 

Colo just edges it from Enrique.

 

Jose just misses out because his passing is still a tad too inconsistent. Colo has been class, I hope he gets the armband in one of the remaining games.

You're right about Enrique's passing, but last night his distribution was phenomenal!! At points when he turned and drove forward, and slipped players in with through balls (3 or 4 occasions), it was like watching a better version of Stevie G 

At least we know he has it in him, and it's an area he needs to work on.

Reading the press reports this morning, and the news all around, it really is a proud moment for the club. Not just in gaining promotion, but in the way it has been done. A great big fuck you is in order for all the rats who jumped ship. They know who they are, and it's good riddance to bad rubbish.

Congrats to all fellow supporters who have had to put up with tons of shit through the hurt and the pain  :clap:

When getting a goal becomes a neccessity and the players use their own initiative, we play better football.

 

Howay man, how can you tell the difference between player initiative and hughton's tactics?

 

Not say it's not true, but it's almost impossible to tell from watching.

 

Ronaldo knows everything man, he can tell you how good any one player from any of the 92 league teams are, he knows what is said on the Newcastle training ground, and in the dressing room and also what was in Shola's shopping basket a week past tuesday!

like fuck he can!

i'm proud because my spellink isn't embarrassing 

He's a f***ing prince among men.

hear hear. me thinks a title change to "Thank You Chris Hughton"

Congratulations to all and sundry. You're all miserable cunts but I love you any way.

Howay the lads  :promotion: :promotion:

3 for me. we're on a similar level to quite a lot of the premier league bottom half. we should stay up and i think 13th isn't too unrealistic. if i see someone on tv seriously talking about europe i will hunt them down and kill them.

good to see u posting again mate

Wouldn't that mean he was assuming supporters who have doubts about Hughton will be the ones booing if things go wrong? In my experience the boo boys are the ones with unrealistic expectations, the ones whose opinions get blown about by short term events. On that basis it will be the people who are convinced one season proves he’s top notch who will be most disappointed if we aren’t whipping Wigan at home.

 

Thats knee jurk if ever isaw it, and who ever said he was top notch.

Just enjoy it instead of getting your knickers in a twist

 

The only people getting their knickers in a twist are those who can’t accept any opinion that diverges from the partyline. If you choose to swallow all the gumpf that’s been written about Hughton this season that’s your prerogative. I prefer to give him credit for what he’s done this season and wait until he’s proven himself in more testing circumstances before getting a stiffy.

You are playng both sides of the fence here, bonny lad. You are prepared to give him credit (wow, this is big of you) but you would actually rather someone else as manager (hopefully Ashley isnt rading your opinions).

 

Facts are this:

 

He took over a depleted squad bewildered by the events of last season,

Had no money to spend last summer.

Worked on a week by week contract, as did Calderwood.

Lost most of his star names, fortunately.

Lost his most influential striker early

Forced to play a kid on his own up front but still got results.

Spent limited funds in January wisely

continued to gain results and top of the league.

gelled his squad together despite difficult periods of losing further influential players, Taylor, Barton, Colo, Enrique, Smith etc

Improved the standard of football especially at hoime as season has gone on.

ONLY LOST FOUR LEAGUE GAMES ALL SEASON

Only lost once in thne last 26 league games.

Despite losing quality defenders, has best defensive record in the division

Has the only unbeaten home record in all divisions

will be promoted with at least 5 games of the season left to play.

Possibly smash 100 points record and 90 goals for season

 

AND YOU GRUDGINGLY DEEM SOME CREDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Mate, you know jackshit about football and would be more suited to ready steady go or whatever those philistines 12 miles down the road are called.

If you accept we probably started season with the best squad in the division then the key task at hand was to motivate them. Now as an unremarkable pre-season programme drew to an end the highly motivated and well organised team that Hughton was managing went to Leyton Orient, and got thrashed 6-1. This prompted the now legendary ‘you’re with us or not’ players meeting, where it would seem a group of senior players (Nolan, Butt and Smith?) decided to take matters into their own hands. We know this to be true as it’s been put forward as the catalyst for the superb team spirit by the players themselves on numerous occasions.

 

Hughton can take credit for going with the flow, perhaps even spotting when he was onto a good thing and creating an environment where the players resolve didn’t waiver when we hit a long losing streak. However, anyone who knows jackshit about football knows it’s a very thin line between the players having a healthy input and the losing control. It’s worked this season and Hughton can take credit for this. He can also take credit for buying a right winger and moving Guthrie inside, as we all thought Guthrie’s best position was wide right and having two plodders in central midfield was the best thing since sliced bread did we not?

 

Next season will be a totally different proposition. The players will think that wrongs have been righted, that they are back where they belong. The motivational spur they had this season will be gone. No doubt they’ll set a new target but when they lose a game it won’t be as easy to bounce back. Confidence will be eroded and taking the lads ten pin bowling won’t restore it. Hughton will have to motivate players who motivated themselves this season, he might be up to the job or he might not. There’s also the issue of bringing in new players – would he, for example, have the balls to replace Nolan and Smith, and will this season’s togetherness remain if two of its main protagonists find themselves out of the team for long stretches.

 

Hughton has succeeded this season by being a pragmatist, which is obviously his natural way of doing things. What we don’t know is to what extent he shaped events and to what extent he was led by them. As I keep saying, he’s done enough to lead us into next season but question marks remain.  

 

That bold bit is some serious serious bullshit based on nothing! When was Hughton appointed on a full-time basis?

I don't know what to say except that I can't believe a serious grown man would believe that a group of players took the reigns from their boss after getting thrashed at Orient, had a meeting, then went on to stay top of the table, and gain promotion. All the while, the manager did the right thing by "spotting" that he had to let them get on with it, as he really is just a s*** manager deep down.

What a moronic notion

How the fuck have Liverpool not conceded yet? Benfica rushing everything.

edit: HAHAHAHAHAHA offside you cunts

Those who think Shola's goal was a fluke have probably never played football or are totally shit at it. I mean totally utterly wank at football and not in the "not good enough to be pro" way.

Wouldn't that mean he was assuming supporters who have doubts about Hughton will be the ones booing if things go wrong? In my experience the boo boys are the ones with unrealistic expectations, the ones whose opinions get blown about by short term events. On that basis it will be the people who are convinced one season proves he’s top notch who will be most disappointed if we aren’t whipping Wigan at home.

I dont believe in booing, have never and never will boo. Yes that was what I meant (sat here with high fever so my writing isn't the most cohesive atm).

I'm not saying that I'm convinced he's top notch going by one season. What I'm saying is that our success this season is down to Hughton. Same as our failure under Allardyce's short tenure was down to Allardyce.

The stability he has managed to bring to the club, and the "back to basics" approach he's taken with the players have been the main reason for our success this season imo. This club has needed it badly for years, and nee fucker since Sir Bobby knew how to do it. Not even Kevin Keegan. Hughton has managed to get a bunch of under-performing prima donnas who relegated the club last year to play football again, and has got them enjoying it too. That cannot be underestimated, and I find it staggering that some won't even give him credit for that!