leffe186

Can't make my mind up on this at all. Get knocked out and do better in the League (as they surely will) or stay in and potentially do well in the Europa?

Reckon you're in with a chance of qualification. Will depend on your 3 home games. Would've been ludicrous if you'd been in Pot 2 like. I'd prefer it if there wasn't any seeding at all. You're right though - loads will depend upon the home games, as well as how referees treat Crouch. I've seen European refs give several free-kicks against him in the past for being tall. He'll give any defence trouble on form.

And to add to that, we're really not that bad you know. Sure, we froze on the astroturf, but we then put six goals past Young Boys without reply. Hopefully Gallas will provide that bit of experience we desperately need.

Got to the UEFA QFs (i think a while back) then got cheated by Sevilla's ref and got knocked out in the round of 16 the year after by PSV / Gomes. FYP. 1-0 up at theirs and cruising, then the ref gave them an absolutely pathetic penalty. We've actually done all right in Europe - so much so that if Bremen hadn't scored that injury time winner we'd have been seeded in pot 2. I wasn't at all fussed about who we got and I think most Spurs fans are the same. Arsenal got third in their first Group stages and that's what I'd expect us to get. Any better would be fantastic and even if we only manage fourth, as long as we play well and don't get gubbed then I'll be happy. It's just great to be there. As someone said on a Spurs forum, all we've heard from Arsenal and Chelsea (and West Ham etc) has been "You won't beat us. You won't get 4th. You won't make the Group Stages. You won't win in the Group Stages... BEEP BEEP BEEP! Watch out people, Gooners are reversing...". Of course we want to do well, but for pretty much every Spurs fan I know, everything we get from now is a bonus. I feel like a kid again. Getting top four this year is arguably a bigger priority than getting through the group stages (and will be harder than ever) but this is the first time since winning the League Cup that I've attained a blissed-out calm. I'm not going to lose that, even if Inter put 6 past us at the San Siro.

Aye. He's found time to take an unnecessary pop at Wenger and Capello this week n all. Wasn't that whole interview made up by the paper?

Konchesky is much more homegrown than Salcido

Just watching the Kiev Ajax match. How Kiev didn't score in the first half hour I will never know.

Defoe knew that, was waiting for it to be disallowed.

Absolutely shitting it.

Even with them they're pretty basic if yesterday is anything to go by.

MILES off his line. Miles and miles.

Worst penalty ever.

i think they're f***ed anyway, realisticly i can't see them getting a point until october man u chelsea a trip to stoke and spurs being their next 4 games Points up how much of a car crash relegation will be. Blackpool, Wigan and West Ham all looking good bets before you even look at anyone else.

17k a week, according to the WH forum. Yeah, just got to that, well that's a strange decision. Good squad player I'd have thought. If he wants to go back to Italy then fair enough, but at least get back close to what you paid.

Diamanti must have been on one of those silly West Ham contracts. The ones where they added a zero for comedy effect.

Give him a break. He might be the only Yank Villa fan. I have never seen one till now. I can now see why most of you hate us Yanks. s***, even I want to smash his face in. My wife is one. She wants our daughter to be another.

So dull, but not clear why? The atmosphere DOES seem subdued.

Really wish we'd ripped them the new arsehole we almost did last week. City look pretty good.

I hope they do, i want a much misery piled on Liverpool as possible, I want both to lose. Meteor strike?

Berbatov is so fucking good. I miss him.

Can't see the game here so I'm bouncing between this and Vital Villa. Like a slowmotion, multiple personality Fanzone.

I was only watching you out of the corner of my eye. How did you play?

Phew. Stoke exactly the same as last year...and the year before.....that will be a tough game for anyone.

Definitely.....but a blatant foul by Huth on Gomes just before. Yeah, but, it's Tottenham. yeah I know! Actually, that's the reason I thought he'd give it - we don't get many breaks on the line...

Definitely.....but a blatant foul by Huth on Gomes just before.