ponsaelius

Aye, sorry I totally misread your post, there is no limit on players being loaned out. I think limiting the loaning OUT of players wouldn't solve the route problem, because clubs would still monopolise young talent - only to stagnate their development even more by having them in their youth/reserves until they fail to reach their potential and are dumped onto smaller clubs, only to keep the ones that do make it. Basically they should be either stopped from buying up too many players in the first place, or if there is no feesible room in the squad for them they should be enforced to move the player on at the going rate. Making sure there is a natural spread of talent would improve competiveness and help to limit the influence that money has on a team's success.

Pretty sure there's limitations like that already in place? I might be wrong though. I think the point Otter is more implying is the way the richer clubs can just stock up on players and then lend them to the lower teams who can't afford to buy or keep their own talents. This way they can essentially keep any potentially growing clubs at arms length. Basically creating a big boys club that nobody else can break into - obviously there's other factors that cause this (CL money) but this is a large part of it.

€5m is what, £3-4 million? Steal imo.

Agreed. Monopolising players the way big clubs do is sickening, and it is never good for the young players. When clubs are allowed to do this and then lend them to smaller clubs it just increases the gap between the top and bottom. The co-owning system in Italy and other European countries is slightly better, but also favours the wealthier clubs.

Wtf, that's terrible. The title is misleading to say the least.

Minor detail.

Dharmesh Sheth said on SSN earlier that he'd been informed by Ben Arfa's agent (might have been through sources in France but he definitely mentioned his agent) he'd been offered to us, Everton and Liverpool along with an unnamed German club. I know Hughton kind of shrugged it off yesterday but he did also mention a few weeks ago about certain players 'becoming available'. Gosling was obviously one of those players he was referring to, doesn't stop Ben Arfa being another one of them though. We can only hope... It might be nothing but him not being on their official website anymore may suggest something. You never know I guess. http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omplanete.com%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fid%3D19949 A link to the French discussing it. 13 pages in 5 hours... Reading that hurt my head. Aye. I don't really know if I got anything concrete out of it. All the sentences are backwards.

Dharmesh Sheth said on SSN earlier that he'd been informed by Ben Arfa's agent (might have been through sources in France but he definitely mentioned his agent) he'd been offered to us, Everton and Liverpool along with an unnamed German club. I know Hughton kind of shrugged it off yesterday but he did also mention a few weeks ago about certain players 'becoming available'. Gosling was obviously one of those players he was referring to, doesn't stop Ben Arfa being another one of them though. We can only hope... It might be nothing but him not being on their official website anymore may suggest something. You never know I guess. http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omplanete.com%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fid%3D19949 A link to the French discussing it. 13 pages in 5 hours...

Reading a Marseille forum and they reckon Ben Arfa is a gonna. Well, it's in French and I've google-translated but they're talking about fees etc. Just wonder which club he'll end up at...

Hot fuck. We got our man guys.

Somebody needs to have a good long look at what goes on in your head mate.

Robert

What about europe then...... f*** Shearer, what about Shola? Shola - 19 Sunderland - 5 You must be shitting me. Shola Ameobi has 19 European goals? Yes, according to Wiki.

Sibierski - 7 Sunderland - 5 We could go all day with this.

What about europe then...... f*** Shearer, what about Shola? Shola - 19 Sunderland - 5

Pretty sure I described Mike Williamson accurately for you lot. Can't remember it, so I wont comment.

Didnt we almost sign Lassana Diarra before he went to pompey? Just before Allardyce was sacked I think. Yep, pretty sure we'd even had a £5 million bid accepted.

Annan would be amazing, would completely change the team. Never seen the other chap play Different players completely. Skjelbred is more attacking, but not really an out and out AM. Annan is probably more what we're crying out for.

1 thread dedicated to them cunts isn't too bad. If you've ever seen their forum...

Either of Skjelbred or Annan would be lush.

If they all stay fit and in form next season , Liverpool will be class. I hate how Hodgson is completely revitalising them, Torres as a complete forward and Huntelaar as a poacher could be devastating.

We should be strengthening it because Nolan, Smith are gonna be essentially useless next season. Vuckic cannot be relied upon at 17, and he's more of a second striker than a central midfielder. We probably wont though.

Torres and Huntelaar would actually be a good partnership.

Anar, I fucking love Bacon. Burn it thar so it's not red anymore, of course.

The Fairs Cup was the equivalent to the UEFA Cup we have today, just a different trophy. Whatever people say about it I'm immensely proud of our success in it. It's a bloody European trophy, and we won it. The Mackems have played, what, 2 European games in their entire history? Pathetic bastards. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/27/article-0-00D237230000044C-830_306x465.jpg