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Didn't just walk out on him tbh, walked out on us. Should have just went public with the story then Ashley would have had to either fire him or back him. Anyone with any sense would blame Keegan as well as Ashley. The above response spells out what he should have done. I know how much I love this club, Keegan says he loves this club, I know that I would NOT have done what he did and would have done something like what is suggested above. Someone who loved the club and the city and the supporters (in his position) would do a MILLION things, would do ANYTHING . . . rather than walk out on the club and supporters so soon after he came back to 'finish unfinished business'. I know that genuinly blind and almost obsessed Keegan lovers CAN NOT accept that he is even partially to blame. They just never will, which is a shame. If Keegan had of waited until he was sacked, he would have been entitled to even more money !!!! And you would have still been having a go at him for that as well, how about looking at Ashleys part for putting Keegan in the postion where he had to do what he did ? he wouldnt the clause that had him only with 2m would have kicked in as well if he was sacked outright

ok a lot of people are saying oh this is nothing but ashley propaganda but, since when has Caulkin printed this kind of stuff about nufc? If Ashley and co want to put out propaganda the sun is usually their 1st port of call. Is it completely impossible that some rich south african looked at championship table looked where the club is and looked at the price and thought to himself that it would be worth looking at. Not saying it is true, but to immediatly write it off as ma manipulating the media gives ashley way too much credit at media management. Caulkin is usually a reliable journo who doesnt print any old shit

He's dead isn't he? Bah, I mix all those Al-Fayeds, I'm not British afterall. probably is I just though it was a conspiracy I wasn't aware of.

Maybe trying to shave a bit off the price because of his preferred bidder status? The thing I keep coming back to on this is that if I were Ashley I just would not sell now. He won't get his money back if we are promoted but he'll get a lot more back than he would if he sells right now. Ashley seems thick skinned enough not to give a s*** about being branded a liar and being hated - so why sell? But what if we don't get promoted and they have to sell off more players - he would not get £100m then. He's a gambler - and its a good punt that we will get promoted. At some point even a gambler has to stick, maybe he'll finally decided this is one gamble too far. heres what i think, moats bid includes bonuses for if we get promoted, something like that might make a bid acceptable for ma as he'd get more money on promotion

this isn't exactly the most media friendly process. Who knows whats going on behind the scenes I realise that, it's just that as ToonBart pointed out this lot have hardly been shy about making claims to the press previously. Stacks up that SP would leak it though tbf, the papers keeping saying Moat is their preferred bidder. the claims previously were Llambias attempting to flush out interested buyers and generally being a pathetic excuse of a human being

this isn't exactly the most media friendly process. Who knows whats going on behind the scenes

Yup, that's the first step. I was starving at halftime the other day and still didn't buy a pie, I refuse to hand over any money other than the cost of admission to the ground. On the day this joker finally sells up I'll be buying a new top, I hope many thousands do the same. I've wanted the Third Kit since it came out, but I refuse to buy it while that fat cockney c*** is still here! is it wrong of me to want the custard cream kit?

I realise that, though votes aren't reliable. When I say the "majority" of posters agree with you, I mean the people who actually have a respectable opinion agree with you. A large proportion of the people who are voting are idiots or vote for the most desireable option. Personally, I'd rather have someone with billions. I might have had another view a year ago. I'm getting bored with the whole situation. I'm also getting a little tired of the way football is heading as I've posted about before, so a cash injection would make things a lot more uncertain, but a lot more exciting. When you say you are tired of the way football is heading, do you mean with clubs just spending silly money and having little or no morals or respect for the history of the game, the fans etc? In which case, why do you want us to be part of that? Digressing a bit here. I have no issue with any of the clubs who have money and are spending it on every player they could possibly attract, I would like to see us in that position. The problem lies is how it effects everybody else, it's detremental to their success. How would you feel to be an Everton fan? You've spent the duration of David Moyes' tenure waiting for progression and you've witnessed the club grow to a team that competes for the Europa League positions every single season. You are hoping you could have the possibility to try and challenge the Champions Leagues spots, then Manchester City come along within 12 months and buy probably your biggest asset, where do you go from there? You find another. Don't forget they bought Lescott from Wolves by taking advantage of their status and extra revenue. Not everyone can have a sugar-daddy (and if they did then nothing would have changed) so you have to accept that building is all you can do. Sounds ridiculous to say it in the context of football but it's not always about winning. Right now I'd love to be a mid-table Premier League team, with the possibility of pushing on a bit further and playing in Europe. Alright winning the league might be miles off but if you take that attitude towards the league (that without winning there's no point competing) then we might as well close all the clubs down and just have those with £1bn having their own mini-league. And even if we did have a ridiculous billionaire, there are only so many prizes. Chelsea for all they've spent can't win the Champions League. Arsenal haven't won anything in years yet I still adore their brand of football. Liverpool can't seem to get the league but they've won a few cups including that amazing Champions League win. All I want for now is for this club to punch its weight. That means getting us back in the Premier League and staying there. If Moat f***s off in three years time having left us mid-table and with a bunch of cash in his back pocket I won't begrudge him that. They may well find another gem, but that gem needs years to develop. The teams you mentioned are all challenging for trophies though, that's my main concern. I honestly wouldn't care if we didn't win a trophy for another 50 years, I just hope we'd have the opportunity to be able to compete. If there any concrete ideas to put a cap on the financial system then I'm all for it, maybe then it will rekindle what makes football a beautiful game, for the unpredictable to manifest. I don't see a major disagreement between our statements there. A club like this should be in a position to compete, and if run well (there's that unquantifiable statement again) it can generate enough funds of its own accord to do so. Might not be competing for the league title or Champions League, but we can be competing for European football and domestic cups. This is going to sound incredibly arrogant, but we're not Portsmouth with a crappy little ground and f*** all worldwide attraction who need a billionaire just to pay their players. We're much more than that, even if just by way of a big stadium. At least we can fill it. That's it though isn't it? Letting the top clubs ease to the same trophies every year while we burn ourselves into the ground trying to reach a place in europe. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but all I can see is a limit we can reach, and that's not healthy for us and it's not healthy for football. Thing is though, liverpool for example may now be competing for trophys but should they fail to get into cl (a possibility this season even) they are screwed big time, like leeds times 100 with the level of debt they have, man u is in a similar position they need to be succesful just to keep the banks happy. Should roman abramovich ever decide to f off back to russia and want his money back from chelsea you can kiss chelsea football club good bye. Man City would crash back to where they were the moment sheik mansour gets bored of his football club. Out of what you can call the current top 8 clubs in the prem (sky 4 city villa everton spuds) the ones who are being run right financially are arsenal everton and spurs (though with arrys track record for club finances at his previous clubs that may not last long)

the idea is with stability and financial prudence in spending then the club can generate its own finance. Everton are an example of a club that competes at the top level and only spend within their means without the resources of a chelsea man city man u Everton are going backwards though. they started last season poor yet finished 5th and in an fa cup final. Besides uefa has ideas of stopping the as arsene wenger puts it "financial doping" that the likes of abramovich and man city owners are doing and only having clubs spend what they generate Now there's a revamped Manchester City, good luck getting 6th. Ideas are all hypothetical though aren't they? How long have we been talking about goal line technology? Years. Have they introducted it? They haven't. FIFA and UEFA detest the idea of putting technology into the game, its managers and media pundits calling for that one, the footballing authorities don't like the idea. heres the latest i can find http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8256279.stm

the idea is with stability and financial prudence in spending then the club can generate its own finance. Everton are an example of a club that competes at the top level and only spend within their means without the resources of a chelsea man city man u Everton are going backwards though. they started last season poor yet finished 5th and in an fa cup final. Besides uefa has ideas of stopping the as arsene wenger puts it "financial doping" that the likes of abramovich and man city owners are doing and only having clubs spend what they generate

e.g.? Avram Grant? Good manager imo, but is he really proven? I know he's done more than Shearer before you start, not sure he's got any experience of getting sides up and establishing them on (probably) tight budgets. Also doubt he'd come, but not necessarily a joke like MJ or Hiddink. He did well with Chelsea, any manager that gets a side into the CL final is worth a punt imo. A good scenario would be Hughton taking us up and then someone like him coming in with a few bob to spend, not loads say 15-20m, he has good connections so I reckon we'd see a good few players coming in for not much money. in fairness grant is a good shout, he had almost everyone against him while at chelsea (media, squad, chelsea fans basically everyone except abramovich) and did well, harshly treated by chelsea if you ask me

hopefully getting better and retiring from management for his own sake

the idea is with stability and financial prudence in spending then the club can generate its own finance. Everton are an example of a club that competes at the top level and only spend within their means without the resources of a chelsea man city man u

I think this is true. I worry that without significant investment the best we can hope to be is a yo-yo club. I'd feel more comfortable if I knew a few more positive things about Moat and his vision/plan for the club other than that he's had a struggle to get the overdraft guaranteed and will appoint his mate Alan Shearer. Newcastle bring in far more money then the majority of Premiership clubs, so how can you then come to the conclusion that the best we can hope for is to be a yoyo club without extra cash? Why do you think all those clubs that bring in much less money then us aren't yoyo clubs? This is complacency. We got ourselves into a lot of financial trouble in the Premiership under Shepherd and Hall once the flotation money ran out. What's going to be different this time? I'm not saying it can't be done, but Moat has yet to offer anything to convince me that he's the one who can do it. Right now he's just the non-Ashley, like Ashley was the non-Shepherd. A negative rather than a positive. What's he got that will get us there, apart from Shearer's mobile number? so the option is stay under ashley? a regime without any credibility whatsoever? even freddie had more credibility at his worst than ashley has now. As it stands its damn difficult for him to be any worse. Whats needed is stability and dignity to bring decency back to all levels of the football club not just with Hughton and the players

I think this is true. I worry that without significant investment the best we can hope to be is a yo-yo club. I'd feel more comfortable if I knew a few more positive things about Moat and his vision/plan for the club other than that he's had a struggle to get the overdraft guaranteed and will appoint his mate Alan Shearer. in the prem we generate more than most clubs there so why is investment needed from outside to prevent being a yo yo club? Everton aren't exactly the richest club around yet they have been in and around 5th place for a few years, bolton are a poor enough club finance wise yet they survive year after year. As to moats vision for the club, should he be successful then I'm sure he'll outline his intentions for the clubs future once he's in, until then whats the point saying anything

oh I'm sure he'll get mentioned, whenever jfk appears in media ashley will be mentioned (along with the word c***) given is on tv (again ashley you cunt) etc etc etc

even by llambias standards he's been quiet alright in the last week or two

I don't really want some random arab billionaire to come in and use the club as a plaything all I want is someone who will run the club properly its all I ask. The club itself has more earning potential than most clubs in the premier league so as long as sensible financial decisions are made it will generate cash to spend. More importantly I want someone with dignity in charge of the club, would make a nice change

so now we will see what ashleys intentions truly are

ireland italy then to see if argentina screw up again

gary cahill is one of the few good players bolton have

nowt in the chronicle other than the "yes we can" bs

neither

hes had headlines from the chronicle too

so lee you'll have the headline of the chronicle for us at 11am. meh it keeps me amused